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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.01.03 14:40:00 -
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Because for pc to be worth bothering with it needs a drastic change, we can't do fk all on a ps3 that warrants us owning anything.
Its backwards, eve corps should run it and hire us, plenty of these threads are made and discussed but ypou have posted in the wrong section.
I like your idea but its simply polishing the turd a bit, it would be a great addition to other ideas though.
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2014.01.03 15:58:00 -
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kiarbanor wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Because for pc to be worth bothering with it needs a drastic change, we can't do fk all on a ps3 that warrants us owning anything.
Its backwards, eve corps should run it and hire us, plenty of these threads are made and discussed but ypou have posted in the wrong section.
I like your idea but its simply polishing the turd a bit, it would be a great addition to other ideas though. Thanks for the response. Yeah, I posted it in different areas, but still no responses. I thought this was a good section since everyone in here has participated in PC, it seems. Interesting idea about EvE owning the process rather than us. Again, thanks for the response.
Aye you'd think that but no, make a post in general discussions, loads of people and even CPM members contribute.
But yeah its completely off the mark pc, it is totally backwards but sadly alot of people who do pc don't even understand the games intended direction at all and because alot are console nubs and are brand new to anything like this they actually think its really good, its sad.
It needs a complete change, its totally backwards, luckily though people are realising its a total joke now, some great technical achievements for ccp but its just plain sht. 
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2014.01.03 16:22:00 -
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OSGR Valdez wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Aye you'd think that but no, make a post in general discussions, loads of people and even CPM members contribute. But yeah its completely off the mark pc, it is totally backwards but sadly alot of people who do pc don't even understand the games intended direction at all and because alot are console nubs and are brand new to anything like this they actually think its really good, its sad. It needs a complete change, its totally backwards, luckily though people are realising its a total joke now, some great technical achievements for ccp but its just plain sht. I'm pretty sure the intent of PC was to privatize battles and create an incentive in doing so successfully. As far as I know, both of those are accomplished. It's a change in balance that may need to be changed. Which is why I agree with a home held Production Facility. Not so much on 500 clones though, it should stay at 300. The non-profit PF would allow small corps an opportunity to push into Molden Heath.
Corp battles accomplished that though, pc just adds a whole bunch of pointless rubbish and lags ridiculously and the way it is just makes no sense.
Pc I believe is wasted on us, ps3 won't allow us to do anything anyway, I think the ownership needs to be in capsuleer hands not ours.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2014.01.03 16:27:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Because for pc to be worth bothering with it needs a drastic change, we can't do fk all on a ps3 that warrants us owning anything.
Its backwards, eve corps should run it and hire us, plenty of these threads are made and discussed but ypou have posted in the wrong section.
I like your idea but its simply polishing the turd a bit, it would be a great addition to other ideas though. THISSSSSSS. It's like a small market that's needs us when as mercenaries we should be getting paid by non-mercenaries. They need to make a "massive overhaul" too which would include a new focus and then some.
Too many people think that its ok the way it is minus the lag and mediocre crap sadly.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 18:19:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:kiarbanor wrote:The reason I like your idea about EvE being in control and hiring us is because the current "concept" of PC has never made sense to me. One merc corp hiring mercs from somewhere else is like Burger King hiring McDonald's to sell hamburgers because their product just isn't good enough.
That makes no sense.
This is why DUST districts need to be a part of the EVE sovereignty system. And we need a combined economy. These are things I've talked about for a long time, and intend to actively campaign for if I'm elected to the CPM.
I'll probably vote for you then.
Pc in ONE word - backwards ownership 
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2014.01.04 18:22:00 -
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kiarbanor wrote:OSGR Valdez wrote:Eve is soon going to be in charge of mobilizing clones in PC, Which I agree with. Dusties controlling MCC's doesn't make sense.
However, having Eve be the sole overseer of entire PC doesn't make sense either.
Having the power to conquer districts and generate more power (clones / ISK ) is the entire intention of PC. And most likely will remain that way.
Big Corporations are big corporations for a reason. McDonalds is McDonalds for a reason.
They did something right.
Changing the schematics of the game isn't going to happen whether it be DUST or the corporate real world. The way to be successful is either build talent or use talent.
Good points, OSGR. Any real world examples we use simply won't work on some level. McDonalds would never hire Burger King, but McDonalds would do everything possible to recruit more talent and have an overall better product. I think there would be issues with EvE running everything, too. I want more integration. But it has to be well thought out. All I know is that true competition and fun is nearly impossible in PC. The large percentage of people don't want competition, they only want to win. These are the same people, for example, that created their own players in Madden, each of them rated 99. And then they would go out and kill the computer by 100 points. I don't think PC should ever be like that. Players are to blame just as much as CCP, but CCP can definitely make some changes to allow better competition. That is the whole basis of my original ideas.
This precisely, people don't seem to want competition in dust, they'd rather hamstring it through espionage or the lag and player kicks do that for you.
I was in a fw match against some decent players and it was intense and fun until a sniper on our team started sniping us all so we were easy pickings, found after the match the said sniper was paid to 'even' the odds, wtf lol.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1906
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Posted - 2014.01.04 21:00:00 -
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kiarbanor wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:kiarbanor wrote:OSGR Valdez wrote:Eve is soon going to be in charge of mobilizing clones in PC, Which I agree with. Dusties controlling MCC's doesn't make sense.
However, having Eve be the sole overseer of entire PC doesn't make sense either.
Having the power to conquer districts and generate more power (clones / ISK ) is the entire intention of PC. And most likely will remain that way.
Big Corporations are big corporations for a reason. McDonalds is McDonalds for a reason.
They did something right.
Changing the schematics of the game isn't going to happen whether it be DUST or the corporate real world. The way to be successful is either build talent or use talent.
Good points, OSGR. Any real world examples we use simply won't work on some level. McDonalds would never hire Burger King, but McDonalds would do everything possible to recruit more talent and have an overall better product. I think there would be issues with EvE running everything, too. I want more integration. But it has to be well thought out. All I know is that true competition and fun is nearly impossible in PC. The large percentage of people don't want competition, they only want to win. These are the same people, for example, that created their own players in Madden, each of them rated 99. And then they would go out and kill the computer by 100 points. I don't think PC should ever be like that. Players are to blame just as much as CCP, but CCP can definitely make some changes to allow better competition. That is the whole basis of my original ideas. This precisely, people don't seem to want competition in dust, they'd rather hamstring it through espionage or the lag and player kicks do that for you. I was in a fw match against some decent players and it was intense and fun until a sniper on our team started sniping us all so we were easy pickings, found after the match the said sniper was paid to 'even' the odds, wtf lol. Stuff like that, Tech. Stuff like that. A lot of people fear competition in this game, or they at least try to avoid it at all costs. Only in this medium where anonymity thrives can this stuff happen. Can't fix the people and their mindset, but we can help add wrinkles into the game that push people toward competition. And that doesn't mean only hardcore competition because that's only fun for some. Just competition. I still like the foundation of my idea. To keep it more competitive, and to keep the corporation unity feel, I think it would be good to have bonuses for corps willing to field the entire team in defense of their district. On offense, anything goes. But on defense, you should get some sort of bonus per Merc wearing your tag. And to stop guys from simply switching corps before each battle, set a specific amount of time a person has to wait in order to switch. Things like this that make it mean something to represent a corp.
Is your char named after the monster in the cave in Monty pythons the holy grail where the rabbit dwells? Or the rabbit is named that? I can't remember.
And yeah agreed.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1907
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Posted - 2014.01.04 21:17:00 -
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kiarbanor wrote:You get 1000 likes for figuring that out. :) not spelled right, but it's the way it sounds. I have an alt with it spelled right.
Great movie.
Hahaha fk yeah 
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1908
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Posted - 2014.01.04 21:39:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:kiarbanor wrote:OSGR Valdez wrote:Eve is soon going to be in charge of mobilizing clones in PC, Which I agree with. Dusties controlling MCC's doesn't make sense.
However, having Eve be the sole overseer of entire PC doesn't make sense either.
Having the power to conquer districts and generate more power (clones / ISK ) is the entire intention of PC. And most likely will remain that way.
Big Corporations are big corporations for a reason. McDonalds is McDonalds for a reason.
They did something right.
Changing the schematics of the game isn't going to happen whether it be DUST or the corporate real world. The way to be successful is either build talent or use talent.
Good points, OSGR. Any real world examples we use simply won't work on some level. McDonalds would never hire Burger King, but McDonalds would do everything possible to recruit more talent and have an overall better product. I think there would be issues with EvE running everything, too. I want more integration. But it has to be well thought out. All I know is that true competition and fun is nearly impossible in PC. The large percentage of people don't want competition, they only want to win. These are the same people, for example, that created their own players in Madden, each of them rated 99. And then they would go out and kill the computer by 100 points. I don't think PC should ever be like that. Players are to blame just as much as CCP, but CCP can definitely make some changes to allow better competition. That is the whole basis of my original ideas. This precisely, people don't seem to want competition in dust, they'd rather hamstring it through espionage or the lag and player kicks do that for you. I was in a fw match against some decent players and it was intense and fun until a sniper on our team started sniping us all so we were easy pickings, found after the match the said sniper was paid to 'even' the odds, wtf lol. You know I was joking when I said that. Why would I waste ISK on you, when I can easily just smash you. LMFAO
Oh, yeah that's what I was thinking but someone paid him to do it and that really was pathetic who ever did because it was fun until then.
Anyway I play as well as I can be bothered to play, which hasn't been for months.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1908
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Posted - 2014.01.04 21:40:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:kiarbanor wrote:OSGR Valdez wrote:Eve is soon going to be in charge of mobilizing clones in PC, Which I agree with. Dusties controlling MCC's doesn't make sense.
However, having Eve be the sole overseer of entire PC doesn't make sense either.
Having the power to conquer districts and generate more power (clones / ISK ) is the entire intention of PC. And most likely will remain that way.
Big Corporations are big corporations for a reason. McDonalds is McDonalds for a reason.
They did something right.
Changing the schematics of the game isn't going to happen whether it be DUST or the corporate real world. The way to be successful is either build talent or use talent.
Good points, OSGR. Any real world examples we use simply won't work on some level. McDonalds would never hire Burger King, but McDonalds would do everything possible to recruit more talent and have an overall better product. I think there would be issues with EvE running everything, too. I want more integration. But it has to be well thought out. All I know is that true competition and fun is nearly impossible in PC. The large percentage of people don't want competition, they only want to win. These are the same people, for example, that created their own players in Madden, each of them rated 99. And then they would go out and kill the computer by 100 points. I don't think PC should ever be like that. Players are to blame just as much as CCP, but CCP can definitely make some changes to allow better competition. That is the whole basis of my original ideas. This precisely, people don't seem to want competition in dust, they'd rather hamstring it through espionage or the lag and player kicks do that for you. I was in a fw match against some decent players and it was intense and fun until a sniper on our team started sniping us all so we were easy pickings, found after the match the said sniper was paid to 'even' the odds, wtf lol. You know I was joking when I said that. Why would I waste ISK on you, when I can easily just smash you. LMFAO We are human regnum and its in our nature to want to find a reason other than ourselves for failure.
Failure in a game maybe, but your scrubby elitist attitude over a game has implications of an actual scrub or a teenybopper.
Pick one.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1908
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Posted - 2014.01.04 22:02:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:
Failure in a game maybe, but your scrubby elitist attitude over a game has implications of an actual scrub or a teenybopper.
Pick one.
I honestly have no idea what you are on about. My statement was simple. We as players would rather look for a reason out of our control to blame for losing then accept our own skill (or our terrible blueberrys) determined the outcome. If you are just about to call people names there is a thread Quickgloves started where we are having a go at him.
I'm just randomly being a d!fk lol, my corp mate messaged the guy after the match that was doing that and seen as the top players seem to be the ones doing most of that kind of thing I assumed it was reg but mailed him after the game and he said yes, didn't know he was joking but the fact remains that people do that kind of trash for an easy win.
And what happens when me and my corp mates go into a match is that as soon as our team sees the likes of you they MCC camp, usually leaving just my squad trying to do anything and the guys in my corp have just found their feet so they just simply are not good enough yet but they are getting there.
I'm not going to bash quickgloves as he has been through a hard time but I despise his methods.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1908
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Posted - 2014.01.04 22:19:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Free Beers wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:
Failure in a game maybe, but your scrubby elitist attitude over a game has implications of an actual scrub or a teenybopper.
Pick one.
I honestly have no idea what you are on about. My statement was simple. We as players would rather look for a reason out of our control to blame for losing then accept our own skill (or our terrible blueberrys) determined the outcome. If you are just about to call people names there is a thread Quickgloves started where we are having a go at him. I'm just randomly being a d!fk lol, my corp mate messaged the guy after the match that was doing that and seen as the top players seem to be the ones doing most of that kind of thing I assumed it was reg but mailed him after the game and he said yes, didn't know he was joking but the fact remains that people do that kind of trash for an easy win. And what happens when me and my corp mates go into a match is that as soon as our team sees the likes of you they MCC camp, usually leaving just my squad trying to do anything and the guys in my corp have just found their feet so they just simply are not good enough yet but they are getting there. I'm not going to bash quickgloves as he has been through a hard time but I despise his methods. Fair enough. stick around i'm going to post my Daily Discussion and its all about FW FF today. Should make for some entertainment
Cool beans.
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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