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8213 Grade No.2 390	Posted - 2013.10.16 16:16:00 - [1] - Quote A lot of people are talking about Officer Weapons being a diamond mine for stockpilers because of there lack of supply. But wouldn't HAVs be inflated/deflated as well? They cost around .5-2million now, so a player controlled market would probably reduce the price, as demand for HAVs will be low because few players use them. So, going into the new market would it be wise to stockpile HAVs too? I would think that I wouldn't give up a HAV, because of their possible effectiveness, for anything less than 10mil. I don't want to sell someone a cheap killing machine that they can turn around and use on me in the future.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4222	Posted - 2013.10.16 16:35:00 - [2] - Quote I'll sell one for 9,999,999.99. Welcome to Jita.
8213 Grade No.2 391	Posted - 2013.10.16 16:38:00 - [3] - Quote You low balling S.O.B.!
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 1314	Posted - 2013.10.16 16:40:00 - [4] - Quote "The First Rule of Gunrunning: Never Get Shot With Your Own Merchandise!"
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1817	Posted - 2013.10.16 18:32:00 - [5] - Quote 8213 wrote: A lot of people are talking about Officer Weapons being a diamond mine for stockpilers because of there lack of supply. But wouldn't HAVs be inflated/deflated as well? They cost around .5-2million now, so a player controlled market would probably reduce the price, as demand for HAVs will be low because few players use them. So, going into the new market would it be wise to stockpile HAVs too? I would think that I wouldn't give up a HAV, because of their possible effectiveness, for anything less than 10mil. I don't want to sell someone a cheap killing machine that they can turn around and use on me in the future. Officer weapons are different from any other item when it comes to value assessment because they aren't on the market. Tanks will be subject to the same supply & demand variables as all the rest. So they're not really comparable. Personally I don't think I'll sell anything unless we're able to sell for Aurum.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3177	Posted - 2013.10.16 18:46:00 - [6] - Quote 8213 wrote: A lot of people are talking about Officer Weapons being a diamond mine for stockpilers because of there lack of supply. But wouldn't HAVs be inflated/deflated as well? They cost around .5-2million now, so a player controlled market would probably reduce the price, as demand for HAVs will be low because few players use them. So, going into the new market would it be wise to stockpile HAVs too? I would think that I wouldn't give up a HAV, because of their possible effectiveness, for anything less than 10mil. I don't want to sell someone a cheap killing machine that they can turn around and use on me in the future. If an HAV cost 1-2.5 Mill minimum to deploy no one would do it, unless they were significantly more durable.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1153	Posted - 2013.10.16 19:21:00 - [7] - Quote The only stuff I'm selling is the equipment/vehicles/suits that I will literally never use.....I'm an amarr logi so I won't be using the minmatar gear, and I don't need balacs forge guns and stuff so I'll make a bit of isk on the side
8213 Grade No.2 394	Posted - 2013.10.16 19:37:00 - [8] - Quote True Adamance wrote: 8213 wrote: A lot of people are talking about Officer Weapons being a diamond mine for stockpilers because of there lack of supply. But wouldn't HAVs be inflated/deflated as well? They cost around .5-2million now, so a player controlled market would probably reduce the price, as demand for HAVs will be low because few players use them. So, going into the new market would it be wise to stockpile HAVs too? I would think that I wouldn't give up a HAV, because of their possible effectiveness, for anything less than 10mil. I don't want to sell someone a cheap killing machine that they can turn around and use on me in the future. If an HAV cost 1-2.5 Mill minimum to deploy no one would do it, unless they were significantly more durable. Enforcers already cost that much...
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 328	Posted - 2013.10.16 20:32:00 - [9] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: 8213 wrote: A lot of people are talking about Officer Weapons being a diamond mine for stockpilers because of there lack of supply. But wouldn't HAVs be inflated/deflated as well? They cost around .5-2million now, so a player controlled market would probably reduce the price, as demand for HAVs will be low because few players use them. So, going into the new market would it be wise to stockpile HAVs too? I would think that I wouldn't give up a HAV, because of their possible effectiveness, for anything less than 10mil. I don't want to sell someone a cheap killing machine that they can turn around and use on me in the future. Officer weapons are different from any other item when it comes to value assessment because they aren't on the market. Tanks will be subject to the same supply & demand variables as all the rest. So they're not really comparable. Personally I don't think I'll sell anything unless we're able to sell for Aurum. Who is saying that officer weapons won't be a producible item in the future? Or that we will even have such a thing. **** officer weapons, I want tech three highly customizable weapons: Barrel, reciver, and stalk. With dozens of different avalable parts for each, all kinds of posible combinations, rare and expensive/difficult to manufacture components. Grips and sights and supresors, and under barrel attachments. Different types ammunition, from the expensive deadly/powerful ammunition like you would find in an officer weapon. Cheap crappy ammo you would find in a standard AR.
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 206	Posted - 2013.10.16 21:02:00 - [10] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: I'll sell one for 9,999,999.99. Welcome to Jita. I'll buy it and fly 30 jumps away and sell it for 19,999,999.99

CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1179	Posted - 2013.10.16 21:41:00 - [11] - Quote if the market were truly player run, i dont think havs would go for moy than 100k and turrets wouldnt be more than 300k, because, seriously, not many ppl run tanks. duvolles would be like 400k, hahaha
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3183	Posted - 2013.10.16 21:47:00 - [12] - Quote 8213 wrote: True Adamance wrote: 8213 wrote: A lot of people are talking about Officer Weapons being a diamond mine for stockpilers because of there lack of supply. But wouldn't HAVs be inflated/deflated as well? They cost around .5-2million now, so a player controlled market would probably reduce the price, as demand for HAVs will be low because few players use them. So, going into the new market would it be wise to stockpile HAVs too? I would think that I wouldn't give up a HAV, because of their possible effectiveness, for anything less than 10mil. I don't want to sell someone a cheap killing machine that they can turn around and use on me in the future. If an HAV cost 1-2.5 Mill minimum to deploy no one would do it, unless they were significantly more durable. Enforcers already cost that much... Does anyone use enforcer tanks besides the insane or insanely rich?
Vulpes Dolosus Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder. 116	Posted - 2013.10.16 21:48:00 - [13] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: I'll sell one for 9,999,999.99. Welcome to Jita. 9,999,999.98
Goric Rumis Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 221	Posted - 2013.10.16 22:14:00 - [14] - Quote CCP will still set the approximate price of HAVs and other equipment by determining what resources are needed to manufacture them. If pricing pressures put them so low that you can easily make more money by making something else with the same materials in the same amount of time, then fewer people will produce them, supply will decline, and price will go up. The EVE market has a lot more fluidity than real-life markets because manufacturing facilities are completely interchangeable, only a handful of resources are used, and supply chains are relatively uncomplicated--not to mention the sell side. I would expect the starting price to be high, and it will probably stay a little high for some time as all the new DUST equipment clogs up manufacturing queues. But where it will settle depends on materials, manufacturing constraints, and how much location plays a role in DUST players buying stuff. To any devs out there, I'm sure there are those of us who would be interested in what your economist has to say about DUST. Even if it's a purely theoretical post.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4244	Posted - 2013.10.16 22:16:00 - [15] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: I'll sell one for 9,999,999.99. Welcome to Jita. 9,999,999.98 Right click Modify Order "9,999,999.97" OK
8213 Grade No.2 398	Posted - 2013.10.17 00:05:00 - [16] - Quote True Adamance wrote: 8213 wrote: True Adamance wrote: 8213 wrote: A lot of people are talking about Officer Weapons being a diamond mine for stockpilers because of there lack of supply. But wouldn't HAVs be inflated/deflated as well? They cost around .5-2million now, so a player controlled market would probably reduce the price, as demand for HAVs will be low because few players use them. So, going into the new market would it be wise to stockpile HAVs too? I would think that I wouldn't give up a HAV, because of their possible effectiveness, for anything less than 10mil. I don't want to sell someone a cheap killing machine that they can turn around and use on me in the future. If an HAV cost 1-2.5 Mill minimum to deploy no one would do it, unless they were significantly more durable. Enforcers already cost that much... Does anyone use enforcer tanks besides the insane or insanely rich? I've only been seeing them in the last month, most likely because of the insanely high SP and ISK investments. I see one about once every time I play. But you have to be very rich, because losing one would take 10+ matches to recuperate.


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