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Borne Velvalor
BLACK-DRAGON-SOCIETY
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Posted - 2013.10.17 04:15:00 -
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low genius wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:After reading all the QQ on these forums about the laser rifle i decided to test it out because everytime I've come up against a Laser Rifle user they've killed me at longish range eg out of my AR's effective distance but when i rush in and get close i destroy them so for me I've never had any issue with them.
What I found is alot of AR users have no idea what they are doing, this isn;t even just new players who can be forgiven for their lack of knowledge on how to fight v a Laser Rifle user, I had guys in proto's using Duvolle's thinking they can kill me (in adv with a militia Laser Rifle) at MY optimal range .. when I came up v someone who knew what they were doing they rushed at me using cover and turned the battle in their favour because now we're fighting at THEIR optimal range and not mine
This post isn;t from someone who doesn;t want their weapon nerfed this is a post from someone who had never used the Laser Rifle til yesterday so my conclusion is that the only people QQ about Laser Rifles are people who don't know how to use their own weapons
Right now I think weapons are perfectly fine but people need to actually learn how to play the game properley eg use cover, work together, pick your fights .. well said. play in your optimal range.
It would be wonderful is the Laser didn't have a 19m optimal span walled by a cliff drop on the outer edge that makes the damage fall to a tenth. The Duvolle Tactical has twice the base DPS at fire cap within laser optimal range, plus it has a 60m optimal span. Even if both shield tank and the Tactical doesn't hit the cap, it's still doing more damage. Provided it isn't an idiot and lets the Laser heat up for several seconds without killing it, the Laser will die.
The Laser's DPS needs to be higher at higher levels. It's the only gun that does not get better when you jump to proto. Sure, it heats up 10% more slowly, but if someone honestly thinks that that is boosting their kills significantly, they need to get their head checked. Every time you go into cover, or the enemy does, your bonus gets reset. You'll be lucky if you can hold it long enough to reach that last 10% of the bar. Maybe if you fire at a wall for four seconds before strafing out of cover you can hit it, but you're playing with fire if you enter that 10% anyways considering how much higher the feedback damage is. |
Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 06:55:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:Right now I think weapons are perfectly fine but people need to actually learn how to play the game properley eg use cover, work together, pick your fights ..
You can pick your fights so much you don't even fight (baring hanging out of combat for so long you just get sniped) and just make up for a weapon being sub par.
You can pick your fights so much that when you find someone with their back to you, fire, and they eventually turn around, aim and kill you - that was actually a fight you shouldn't have gone into?? Shooting someone in the back was a fight you shouldn't have gone into? 'Cause it was just tooo tough?
If you want to say 'sure, if you are hosing a relatively still guy in the back, the laser should be weak enough that he can turn and kill you' then say it.
Otherwise you're just talking political buzz words like 'pick your fights'. It's a weasel word phrase.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.17 07:02:00 -
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as much as I hate the lazor or any ammarian weapon for that matter, minmatar here you get sick of things that get aimed at you after a bit, the LR is in a good place as a support weapon I'd like to see the MD buffed to compete. |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.17 19:07:00 -
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Blake Kingston wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Right now I think weapons are perfectly fine but people need to actually learn how to play the game properley eg use cover, work together, pick your fights .. You can pick your fights so much you don't even fight (baring hanging out of combat for so long you just get sniped) and just make up for a weapon being sub par. You can pick your fights so much that when you find someone with their back to you, fire, and they eventually turn around, aim and kill you - that was actually a fight you shouldn't have gone into?? Shooting someone in the back was a fight you shouldn't have gone into? 'Cause it was just tooo tough? If you want to say 'sure, if you are hosing a relatively still guy in the back, the laser should be weak enough that he can turn and kill you' then say it. Otherwise you're just talking political buzz words like 'pick your fights'. It's a weasel word phrase.
1.Why on earth are you running directly behind someone and using your Laser Rifle to attack them ???
2.There is a reason most LR users have a sidearm ... to compensate for the LR's obvious flaws in CQC, personally I use an SMG
3.'pick your fights' is just a concept widely accepted in any form of combat whether it be in a game or in real life. The whole point of a game like DUST is that it isn;t your typical twitch shooter FPS like COD where you just run around pressing R1 killing people without actually having to think about what you're doing
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Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.17 19:10:00 -
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Stevez WingYip wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:After reading all the QQ on these forums about the laser rifle i decided to test it out because everytime I've come up against a Laser Rifle user they've killed me at longish range eg out of my AR's effective distance but when i rush in and get close i destroy them so for me I've never had any issue with them.
What I found is alot of AR users have no idea what they are doing, this isn;t even just new players who can be forgiven for their lack of knowledge on how to fight v a Laser Rifle user, I had guys in proto's using Duvolle's thinking they can kill me (in adv with a militia Laser Rifle) at MY optimal range .. when I came up v someone who knew what they were doing they rushed at me using cover and turned the battle in their favour because now we're fighting at THEIR optimal range and not mine
This post isn;t from someone who doesn;t want their weapon nerfed this is a post from someone who had never used the Laser Rifle til yesterday so my conclusion is that the only people QQ about Laser Rifles are people who don't know how to use their own weapons
Right now I think weapons are perfectly fine but people need to actually learn how to play the game properley eg use cover, work together, pick your fights .. Just because your AR doesn't work against it for you doesn't mean it's imbalanced.
HUH ??? You clearly didn;t read my post/don;t understand English ...
Do me a favour and before you make a comment again on ANY topic on these forums ... READ THE OP |
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