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Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 111	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:29:00 - [1] - Quote I don't mean this in the way that the things they have introduced have been rubbish or anything like that, what I mean is that 1.5 was promised to be introducing new weapons and balancing and adding vehicles ... compared to what 1.5 was going to be what we actually have is pretty much .. Meh ... I'ts like being promised an Ice Cream and being given just the cone Furthermore we now also know that 1.6 isn;t going to have these things either and is just going to be general boring fixes again ... So far compared to what CCP originally promised us .. DUST 514 is basically 1 giant .. Meh ... TL;DR Playing DUST 514 is like building a house and moving in before the electrics/windows/door/carpets/plumbing/roof have been added, sure you can live there but it's hardly ready to be lived in
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 803	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:31:00 - [2] - Quote so whats 1.6 about then?
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 930	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:34:00 - [3] - Quote Yeah well things dont always go as planned .but o well at least its somthin.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 1269	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:35:00 - [4] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: so whats 1.6 about then? Bug fixes.
Chimichanga66605 Vader's Taco Shack 47	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:36:00 - [5] - Quote Meh, 1.5 was better than nothing. -Chimi out, o7
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 825	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:37:00 - [6] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: so whats 1.6 about then? Probably a technical patch, mainly (there was an interview about it, somewhere...). I know many people are waiting for the Scout rework and the open market, but don't expect any of those in 1.6... I guess. SoonGäó
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 111	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:42:00 - [7] - Quote Chimichanga66605 wrote: Meh, 1.5 was better than nothing. -Chimi out, o7 Noooooooooooooooo .. My point is that they promised the world and gave us a pebble .. had they not said anything about new weapons and vehicles being added in 1.5 I wouldn't feel so disappointed in 1.5 .. It seems to me that they say they are going to add certain things to keep people interested It's like me going upto Scarlett Johanson and saying right now im pretty rubbish but I'm going to be a billionaire president of the USA and the most handsome guy in the world so go out with me now and in the future you will have all this ...
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1971	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:44:00 - [8] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: I don't mean this in the way that the things they have introduced have been rubbish or anything like that, what I mean is that 1.5 was promised to be introducing new weapons and balancing and adding vehicles ... compared to what 1.5 was going to be what we actually have is pretty much .. Meh ... I'ts like being promised an Ice Cream and being given just the cone Furthermore we now also know that 1.6 isn;t going to have these things either and is just going to be general boring fixes again ... So far compared to what CCP originally promised us .. DUST 514 is basically 1 giant .. Meh ... TL;DR Playing DUST 514 is like building a house and moving in before the electrics/windows/door/carpets/plumbing/roof have been added, sure you can live there but it's hardly ready to be lived in They did not promise it - they were hoping to release it, but it wasn't ready. Manage your expectations and pay attention to what is actually said (and not what you infer) and you are less likely to be disappointed. And no we don't know what is in 1.6. Again, they are hoping to have vehicle fixes started in 1.6 but have said it may be 1.7.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1971	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:46:00 - [9] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Chimichanga66605 wrote: Meh, 1.5 was better than nothing. -Chimi out, o7 Noooooooooooooooo .. My point is that they promised the world and gave us a pebble .. had they not said anything about new weapons and vehicles being added in 1.5 I wouldn't feel so disappointed in 1.5 .. It seems to me that they say they are going to add certain things to keep people interested It's like me going upto Scarlett Johanson and saying right now im pretty rubbish but I'm going to be a billionaire president of the USA and the most handsome guy in the world so go out with me now and in the future you will have all this ... They wouldn't have even told you what they did if not for people complaining as it was - they were trying to show that they were working on it, and then people got it in their head that "planning" something was the same as "definitely happening", which it isn't and never has been in reality. Again, expectation management on your part is called for.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 804	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:51:00 - [10] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: so whats 1.6 about then? Bug fixes. Slowly loosing faith.......CCP can do it yeaaa (fake smile)

Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 111	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:52:00 - [11] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: I don't mean this in the way that the things they have introduced have been rubbish or anything like that, what I mean is that 1.5 was promised to be introducing new weapons and balancing and adding vehicles ... compared to what 1.5 was going to be what we actually have is pretty much .. Meh ... I'ts like being promised an Ice Cream and being given just the cone Furthermore we now also know that 1.6 isn;t going to have these things either and is just going to be general boring fixes again ... So far compared to what CCP originally promised us .. DUST 514 is basically 1 giant .. Meh ... TL;DR Playing DUST 514 is like building a house and moving in before the electrics/windows/door/carpets/plumbing/roof have been added, sure you can live there but it's hardly ready to be lived in They did not promise it - they were hoping to release it, but it wasn't ready. Manage your expectations and pay attention to what is actually said (and not what you infer) and you are less likely to be disappointed. And no we don't know what is in 1.6. Again, they are hoping to have vehicle fixes started in 1.6 but have said it may be 1.7. I hope I'll be able to write a response without insulting you .... Oh .. Go fck yourself ... Fanboi sorry I wasn't able to stick to that but I did only say that I hope I'd be able to reply without insulting you
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1971	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:54:00 - [12] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: I don't mean this in the way that the things they have introduced have been rubbish or anything like that, what I mean is that 1.5 was promised to be introducing new weapons and balancing and adding vehicles ... compared to what 1.5 was going to be what we actually have is pretty much .. Meh ... I'ts like being promised an Ice Cream and being given just the cone Furthermore we now also know that 1.6 isn;t going to have these things either and is just going to be general boring fixes again ... So far compared to what CCP originally promised us .. DUST 514 is basically 1 giant .. Meh ... TL;DR Playing DUST 514 is like building a house and moving in before the electrics/windows/door/carpets/plumbing/roof have been added, sure you can live there but it's hardly ready to be lived in They did not promise it - they were hoping to release it, but it wasn't ready. Manage your expectations and pay attention to what is actually said (and not what you infer) and you are less likely to be disappointed. And no we don't know what is in 1.6. Again, they are hoping to have vehicle fixes started in 1.6 but have said it may be 1.7. I hope I'll be able to writet a response without insulting you .... Oh .. Go fck yourself ... sorry I wasn't able to stick to that but I did only say that I hope I'd be able to reply without insulting you You didn't insult me, as I managed my expectations of your maturity (meaning I didn't expect any). Oh and the word is "write", and not "right" when you are dealing with the written word.
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 111	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:55:00 - [13] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Chimichanga66605 wrote: Meh, 1.5 was better than nothing. -Chimi out, o7 Noooooooooooooooo .. My point is that they promised the world and gave us a pebble .. had they not said anything about new weapons and vehicles being added in 1.5 I wouldn't feel so disappointed in 1.5 .. It seems to me that they say they are going to add certain things to keep people interested It's like me going upto Scarlett Johanson and saying right now im pretty rubbish but I'm going to be a billionaire president of the USA and the most handsome guy in the world so go out with me now and in the future you will have all this ... They wouldn't have even told you what they did if not for people complaining as it was - they were trying to show that they were working on it, and then people got it in their head that "planning" something was the same as "definitely happening", which it isn't and never has been in reality. Again, expectation management on your part is called for. I expected this game to be half decent .. Turns out it's a pile of Poop ...
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 1273	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:56:00 - [14] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: so whats 1.6 about then? Bug fixes. Slowly loosing faith.......CCP can do it yeaaa (fake smile) I really would like new content but massive fixes to our broken mechanics that are supposed to be the meat of the game, PC & FW, need to happen. As of right now both systems are massively broken and not particularly worth playing. Since the most recent update my average frame rate in a FW match has plummeted to that of your average PC match. It's to the point where my shotgun and any semi-auto weapon is nearly worthless. I'm getting on average maybe 15-25 fps in nearly every FW match. Some matches its just not even playable. I find myself having to quit matches quite frequently because the ridiculous drops in FPS that have been happening more and more frequently. Honestly it's hard to tell which I want more: something new that might be fun, or something old fixed so it might be fun.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1971	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:56:00 - [15] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Chimichanga66605 wrote: Meh, 1.5 was better than nothing. -Chimi out, o7 Noooooooooooooooo .. My point is that they promised the world and gave us a pebble .. had they not said anything about new weapons and vehicles being added in 1.5 I wouldn't feel so disappointed in 1.5 .. It seems to me that they say they are going to add certain things to keep people interested It's like me going upto Scarlett Johanson and saying right now im pretty rubbish but I'm going to be a billionaire president of the USA and the most handsome guy in the world so go out with me now and in the future you will have all this ... They wouldn't have even told you what they did if not for people complaining as it was - they were trying to show that they were working on it, and then people got it in their head that "planning" something was the same as "definitely happening", which it isn't and never has been in reality. Again, expectation management on your part is called for. I expected this game to be half decent .. Turns out it's a pile of Poop ... So again, your expectations are the cause of your frustration. Expect nothing, and you won't be disappointed. Expect nothing, and you will be pleased when good things happen. EDIT: also note I have no sympathy for someone who doesn't enjoy something but does it anyway - no one if forcing you to play so if you don't enjoy it, there's the door.
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 111	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:00:00 - [16] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: I don't mean this in the way that the things they have introduced have been rubbish or anything like that, what I mean is that 1.5 was promised to be introducing new weapons and balancing and adding vehicles ... compared to what 1.5 was going to be what we actually have is pretty much .. Meh ... I'ts like being promised an Ice Cream and being given just the cone Furthermore we now also know that 1.6 isn;t going to have these things either and is just going to be general boring fixes again ... So far compared to what CCP originally promised us .. DUST 514 is basically 1 giant .. Meh ... TL;DR Playing DUST 514 is like building a house and moving in before the electrics/windows/door/carpets/plumbing/roof have been added, sure you can live there but it's hardly ready to be lived in They did not promise it - they were hoping to release it, but it wasn't ready. Manage your expectations and pay attention to what is actually said (and not what you infer) and you are less likely to be disappointed. And no we don't know what is in 1.6. Again, they are hoping to have vehicle fixes started in 1.6 but have said it may be 1.7. I hope I'll be able to writet a response without insulting you .... Oh .. Go fck yourself ... sorry I wasn't able to stick to that but I did only say that I hope I'd be able to reply without insulting you You didn't insult me, as I managed my expectations of your maturity (meaning I didn't expect any). Yes because only Children insult people don;t they ... I've never heard any mature adult say anything insulting about anyone .. Dude we are playing a godamn video game set in an imaginary universe .. If you honestly think insulting someone is immature then what level of maturity do you put to playing a videogame ? God I love these self important prix who like to 'tell' you what you should do
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1972	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:04:00 - [17] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: I don't mean this in the way that the things they have introduced have been rubbish or anything like that, what I mean is that 1.5 was promised to be introducing new weapons and balancing and adding vehicles ... compared to what 1.5 was going to be what we actually have is pretty much .. Meh ... I'ts like being promised an Ice Cream and being given just the cone Furthermore we now also know that 1.6 isn;t going to have these things either and is just going to be general boring fixes again ... So far compared to what CCP originally promised us .. DUST 514 is basically 1 giant .. Meh ... TL;DR Playing DUST 514 is like building a house and moving in before the electrics/windows/door/carpets/plumbing/roof have been added, sure you can live there but it's hardly ready to be lived in They did not promise it - they were hoping to release it, but it wasn't ready. Manage your expectations and pay attention to what is actually said (and not what you infer) and you are less likely to be disappointed. And no we don't know what is in 1.6. Again, they are hoping to have vehicle fixes started in 1.6 but have said it may be 1.7. I hope I'll be able to writet a response without insulting you .... Oh .. Go fck yourself ... sorry I wasn't able to stick to that but I did only say that I hope I'd be able to reply without insulting you You didn't insult me, as I managed my expectations of your maturity (meaning I didn't expect any). Yes because only Children insult people don;t they ... I've never heard any mature adult say anything insulting about anyone .. Dude we are playing a godamn video game set in an imaginary universe .. If you honestly think insulting someone is immature then what level of maturity do you put to playing a videogame ? God I love these self important prix who like to 'tell' you what you should do I never told you what to do. I only pointed out I had no expectations of you. And yes, adults can be immature as well - it is not limited to children. I never called you a child - instead you (again) inferred something that wasn't there.
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 111	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:10:00 - [18] - Quote [/quote] I never told you what to do. I only pointed out I had no expectations of you. And yes, adults can be immature as well - it is not limited to children. I never called you a child - instead you (again) inferred something that wasn't there.[/quote] Yeah I'm tired of speaking to a troll so kindly take your posts elsewhere, you can take your opinions and thoughts and shove them where the sun doesn;t shine I don;t care what you have to say or what you think .. telling me to have No expectations at all is the most ******** thing i've ever heard .. I wouldn;t have played this game in the 1st place if I thought it was going to be awful ..
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1973	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:13:00 - [19] - Quote And what does it say about you to continue playing something you don't like? *** I hope a game is good. I don't expect it to be good. Thus, I am not disappointed with any game.
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 111	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:21:00 - [20] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: And what does it say about you to continue playing something you don't like? *** I hope a game is good. I don't expect it to be good. Thus, I am not disappointed with any game. I don't care I really don't care I really really don't care I really really REALLY DON'T CARE I can't make it any clearer than that

Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1973	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:22:00 - [21] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: And what does it say about you to continue playing something you don't like? *** I hope a game is good. I don't expect it to be good. Thus, I am not disappointed with any game. I don't care I really don't care I really really don't care I really really REALLY DON'T CARE I can't make it any clearer than that I know. Hope you like the next game you play.
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 111	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:27:00 - [22] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: And what does it say about you to continue playing something you don't like? *** I hope a game is good. I don't expect it to be good. Thus, I am not disappointed with any game. I don't care I really don't care I really really don't care I really really REALLY DON'T CARE I can't make it any clearer than that I know. Hope you like the next game you play. I like DUST 514 .. it doesn't stop me being disappointed with it though
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1973	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:30:00 - [23] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: And what does it say about you to continue playing something you don't like? *** I hope a game is good. I don't expect it to be good. Thus, I am not disappointed with any game. I don't care I really don't care I really really don't care I really really REALLY DON'T CARE I can't make it any clearer than that I know. Hope you like the next game you play. I like DUST 514 .. it doesn't stop me being disappointed with it though Ah - I was confused by your statement " I wouldn;t have played this game in the 1st place if I thought it was going to be awful .." read as if you didn't like the game.
howard sanchez expert intervention Caldari State 775	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:34:00 - [24] - Quote Will you two just please get a room?
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 63	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:36:00 - [25] - Quote There is an old saying: "If you expect a kick in the groin and all you get is a slap in the face you have come out ahead" I most certainly have learned to apply this with extreme prejudice in terms of what is "coming soon" in Dust 514. I only wish I could stop myself from applying any expectations and stop speculating about what they are doing over there. The game has made progress in leaps and bounds, hopefully as part of all these bug fixes they keep working on their ability to test and introduce new things will become easier thanks to better overall stability.
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 111	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:38:00 - [26] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: Will you two just please get a room? Waiting for CCP to add the new content of 'A Room' ... it's been put back .. hopefully it will be out by Update 2.2 ..
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6963	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:40:00 - [27] - Quote Basically 1.7 is going to be the closest thing to a real content patch since Uprising, in theory. Perhaps with them removing all the vehicle variants and making vehicle command unlock any races vehicle means we will see racial variants? EVE Vegas could be interesting
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 111	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:43:00 - [28] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: There is an old saying: "If you expect a kick in the groin and all you get is a slap in the face you have come out ahead" I most certainly have learned to apply this with extreme prejudice in terms of what is "coming soon" in Dust 514. I only wish I could stop myself from applying any expectations and stop speculating about what they are doing over there. The game has made progress in leaps and bounds, hopefully as part of all these bug fixes they keep working on their ability to test and introduce new things will become easier thanks to better overall stability. DUST 514 SoonGäó
P14GU3 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 417	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:58:00 - [29] - Quote Logged in the other night for a PC, comms glitched for three straight resets, logged back into gta. Mate there said "oh you have to log into an alt and then back into your main when that happens." Really CCP? Why do we always have to find these crazy workarounds to play your game? GTA turned out to be better than I imagined, so ill probably throw my last omega passive on this weekend and see you all 1.6. P.S. CCP, your weapon balance is still sh!t. I hope you can get this fixed by 1.7/1.8. I'm tired of playing #AR514
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9406	Posted - 2013.10.14 21:15:00 - [30] - Quote To OP, CCP typically do not share information early for the same exact reason you just provided. People like yourself take it as if they are supposed to be promises. To others as per CCP Rouge's letter 1.6 is going to be small similar to 1.3. If and if all goes well 1.7 ( if numbered as such can't tell this far out) should have some meat to it. Vehicle changes are not in 1.6.

Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 112	Posted - 2013.10.14 21:23:00 - [31] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: To OP, CCP typically do not share information early for the same exact reason you just provided. People like yourself take it as if they are supposed to be promises. To others as per CCP Rouge's letter 1.6 is going to be small similar to 1.3. If and if all goes well 1.7 ( if numbered as such can't tell this far out) should have some meat to it. Vehicle changes are not in 1.6. When people ask for information about what's going to be in patch xxxx they EXPECT to be told what is actually going to be IN the patch not what they hope to be in it ... It isn;t like CCP put out the notes 6 months in advance they do it if we are lucky 1 week before the patch, if they have nothing completed and ready to be patched a week before the update then that is the real problem We all know how unreliable CCP are so when we ask for info on what's going to be IN the next patch we'd liek to know what is 100% in the patch not what they HOPE to have in the patch .. that is the annoying thing, I personally don;t care what CCP hope to put into their patches all I want to know is what is actually going to be in the patches ... it's obvious they say things like PVE/Racial Variants/Vehicle rebalance may be coming in patch xxxx to keep players interested because if you were honest and told us now that PVE/Racial Variants/Gamemodes/Maps/Vehicle rebalance wont be here for 6 months you know full well 90% of the population woudl go screw this then I'll come back in 6 months
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9408	Posted - 2013.10.14 21:26:00 - [32] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: To OP, CCP typically do not share information early for the same exact reason you just provided. People like yourself take it as if they are supposed to be promises. To others as per CCP Rouge's letter 1.6 is going to be small similar to 1.3. If and if all goes well 1.7 ( if numbered as such can't tell this far out) should have some meat to it. Vehicle changes are not in 1.6. When people ask for information about what's going to be in patch xxxx they EXPECT to be told what is actually going to be IN the patch not what they hope to be in it ... It isn;t like CCP put out the notes 6 months in advance they do it if we are lucky 1 week before the patch, if they have nothing completed and ready to be patched a week before the update then that is the real problem We all know how unreliable CCP are so when we ask for info on what's going to be IN the next patch we'd liek to know what is 100% in the patch not what they HOPE to have in the patch .. that is the annoying thing, I personally don;t care what CCP hope to put into their patches all I want to know is what is actually going to be in the patches ... it's obvious they say things like PVE/Racial Variants/Vehicle rebalance may be coming in patch xxxx to keep players interested because if you were honest and told us now that PVE/Racial Variants/Gamemodes/Maps/Vehicle rebalance wont be here for 6 months you know full well 90% of the population woudl go screw this then I'll come back in 6 months When people ask these days CCP is rather mum about it until about two weeks out from patch. Usually.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1650	Posted - 2013.10.14 21:41:00 - [33] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Noooooooooooooooo .. My point is that they promised the world and gave us a pebble .. had they not said anything about new weapons and vehicles being added in 1.5 I wouldn't feel so disappointed in 1.5 .. It seems to me that they say they are going to add certain things to keep people interested They are forced to tell us what they hope because everyone cries like a banshee for more communication from them. It's a vicious and never ending circle.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1994	Posted - 2013.10.14 21:43:00 - [34] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: howard sanchez wrote: Will you two just please get a room? Waiting for CCP to add the new content of 'A Room' ... it's been put back .. hopefully it will be out by Update 2.2 .. I like rooms.
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 114	Posted - 2013.10.14 21:54:00 - [35] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Noooooooooooooooo .. My point is that they promised the world and gave us a pebble .. had they not said anything about new weapons and vehicles being added in 1.5 I wouldn't feel so disappointed in 1.5 .. It seems to me that they say they are going to add certain things to keep people interested They are forced to tell us what they hope because everyone cries like a banshee for more communication from them. It's a vicious and never ending circle. Players just want some realistic timescales .. the lack of communication is more to do with being told things are in the pipeline or delayed and then left on the backburner with no further information rather than people demanding to know exactly everything that is going to be in the next patch ...
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9410	Posted - 2013.10.14 21:55:00 - [36] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Crash Monster wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Noooooooooooooooo .. My point is that they promised the world and gave us a pebble .. had they not said anything about new weapons and vehicles being added in 1.5 I wouldn't feel so disappointed in 1.5 .. It seems to me that they say they are going to add certain things to keep people interested They are forced to tell us what they hope because everyone cries like a banshee for more communication from them. It's a vicious and never ending circle. Players just want some realistic timescales .. the lack of communication is more to do with being told things are in the pipeline or delayed and then left on the backburner with no further information rather than people demanding to know exactly everything that is going to be in the next patch ... The concept of realistic time scale was destroyed in 1.0. You even should know that.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3894	Posted - 2013.10.14 21:56:00 - [37] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Crash Monster wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Noooooooooooooooo .. My point is that they promised the world and gave us a pebble .. had they not said anything about new weapons and vehicles being added in 1.5 I wouldn't feel so disappointed in 1.5 .. It seems to me that they say they are going to add certain things to keep people interested They are forced to tell us what they hope because everyone cries like a banshee for more communication from them. It's a vicious and never ending circle. Players just want some realistic timescales .. the lack of communication is more to do with being told things are in the pipeline or delayed and then left on the backburner with no further information rather than people demanding to know exactly everything that is going to be in the next patch ... At this point I'm starting to get the impression that part of the reason we're not told everything is because so many idiots like you throw hissy fits when everything doesn't happen exactly as they inferred it would.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 737	Posted - 2013.10.14 21:59:00 - [38] - Quote Too many people exploit or search for exploits, this actually both helps fix things and makes progress slower lol.
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 116	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:10:00 - [39] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Crash Monster wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Noooooooooooooooo .. My point is that they promised the world and gave us a pebble .. had they not said anything about new weapons and vehicles being added in 1.5 I wouldn't feel so disappointed in 1.5 .. It seems to me that they say they are going to add certain things to keep people interested They are forced to tell us what they hope because everyone cries like a banshee for more communication from them. It's a vicious and never ending circle. Players just want some realistic timescales .. the lack of communication is more to do with being told things are in the pipeline or delayed and then left on the backburner with no further information rather than people demanding to know exactly everything that is going to be in the next patch ... At this point I'm starting to get the impression that part of the reason we're not told everything is because so many idiots like you throw hissy fits when everything doesn't happen exactly as they inferred it would. Saying a patch was disappointing is hardly a hissy fit lol Im disappointed that It's raining in the UK today .. OMG stop throwing a hissy fit at rain I don't want to be told everything, when I ask for info on what's coming in the next patch all I want to know is what they actually have ready and waiting to be implemented .. I see absolutely no reason for CCP to Infer anything ... CCP have said that they add things as and when they are ready in the next patch so how difficult is it for them to say .. this has been completed and will be in the next patch ???? That is the whole reason for the monthly updates If I wanted to speculate about what MIGHT be in the next patch I'd create a thread and ask the opinions of other players FYI Trolling me because you've had a day is fine, I'm a big boy I can handle it but you don't half make yourself seem like a moron
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1650	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:14:00 - [40] - Quote When people ask what's in the next patch I'm sure iis hard not to speculate unless it's already completed.

SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 271	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:17:00 - [41] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: To OP, CCP typically do not share information early for the same exact reason you just provided. People like yourself take it as if they are supposed to be promises. To others as per CCP Rouge's letter 1.6 is going to be small similar to 1.3. If and if all goes well 1.7 ( if numbered as such can't tell this far out) should have some meat to it. Vehicle changes are not in 1.6. When people ask for information about what's going to be in patch xxxx they EXPECT to be told what is actually going to be IN the patch not what they hope to be in it ... It isn;t like CCP put out the notes 6 months in advance they do it if we are lucky 1 week before the patch, if they have nothing completed and ready to be patched a week before the update then that is the real problem We all know how unreliable CCP are so when we ask for info on what's going to be IN the next patch we'd liek to know what is 100% in the patch not what they HOPE to have in the patch .. that is the annoying thing, I personally don;t care what CCP hope to put into their patches all I want to know is what is actually going to be in the patches ... it's obvious they say things like PVE/Racial Variants/Vehicle rebalance may be coming in patch xxxx to keep players interested because if you were honest and told us now that PVE/Racial Variants/Gamemodes/Maps/Vehicle rebalance wont be here for 6 months you know full well 90% of the population woudl go screw this then I'll come back in 6 months When people ask these days CCP is rather mum about it until about two weeks out from patch. Usually. Every smart company does this, it could be 1 day before patch and something is discovered that breaks the game 100%, like firing a mass driver 3 times then swapping to ar and emptying the clip causes the server to crash or something like that, yes that would require a commando suit.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 2012	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:20:00 - [42] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Crash Monster wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Noooooooooooooooo .. My point is that they promised the world and gave us a pebble .. had they not said anything about new weapons and vehicles being added in 1.5 I wouldn't feel so disappointed in 1.5 .. It seems to me that they say they are going to add certain things to keep people interested They are forced to tell us what they hope because everyone cries like a banshee for more communication from them. It's a vicious and never ending circle. Players just want some realistic timescales .. the lack of communication is more to do with being told things are in the pipeline or delayed and then left on the backburner with no further information rather than people demanding to know exactly everything that is going to be in the next patch ... At this point I'm starting to get the impression that part of the reason we're not told everything is because so many idiots like you throw hissy fits when everything doesn't happen exactly as they inferred it would. Saying a patch was disappointing is hardly a hissy fit lol Im disappointed that It's raining in the UK today .. OMG stop throwing a hissy fit at rain I don't want to be told everything, when I ask for info on what's coming in the next patch all I want to know is what they actually have ready and waiting to be implemented .. I see absolutely no reason for CCP to Infer anything ... CCP have said that they add things as and when they are ready in the next patch so how difficult is it for them to say .. this has been completed and will be in the next patch ???? That is the whole reason for the monthly updates If I wanted to speculate about what MIGHT be in the next patch I'd create a thread and ask the opinions of other players FYI Trolling me because you've had a day is fine, I'm a big boy I can handle it but you don't half make yourself seem like a moron They said, "we want to put x in the next release", and then said "x isn't ready like we planned so here is y which is ready", and now you are "disappointed" about it (even though you said the game is awful as result, which is different than simply being disappointed, so I'll just leave this here). Behaving the way you seem to is annoying to people, which is why you are getting negative replies to your thread. It's not that you are disappointed that is annoying - it is the feeling that things should be the way you want and only you want because gosh darn it you are entitled to it. Even if you don't mean it this way, that's what it looks like from the outside.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 854	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:21:00 - [43] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Too many people exploit or search for exploits, this actually both helps fix things and makes progress slower lol. Too many days and even weeks off when nothing is being developed is what slows things down. October? extra long holliday... November? holliday being planned. December? two week holliday. January? a two week holliday to recuperate from Decembers holliday. Feb? ummm lets start planning another Fanfest Promises Promenade video Tick, tock, tick, tock. November 14th. November shopping spree Black Friday. Destiny, The Division, Killzone, Diablo 3, Witcher 3 and a bit later Fallout 4.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3896	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:23:00 - [44] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Saying a patch was disappointing is hardly a hissy fit lol Im disappointed that It's raining in the UK today .. OMG stop throwing a hissy fit at rain I don't want to be told everything, when I ask for info on what's coming in the next patch all I want to know is what they actually have ready and waiting to be implemented .. I see absolutely no reason for CCP to Infer anything ... CCP have said that they add things as and when they are ready in the next patch so how difficult is it for them to say .. this has been completed and will be in the next patch ???? That is the whole reason for the monthly updates If I wanted to speculate about what MIGHT be in the next patch I'd create a thread and ask the opinions of other players FYI Trolling me because you've had a day is fine, I'm a big boy I can handle it but you don't half make yourself seem like a moron Not a hissy fit, eh? Let's have a look at what you've done in this thread so far. You have: Wildly accused anyone disagreeing with you of being a troll. Told people politely disagreeing with you to 'go **** themselves'. Also told someone to 'get bent' and that their 'opinion is invalid'. Spammed 'I don't care' in caps. Yes, I'm sure you're conducting yourself in a dignified and respectable manner rather than a hissy fit. And with that, I'm out of this thread. o7
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4487	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:27:00 - [45] - Quote I do agree that 1.5 is a disappointment, but you seem to be one of those people who missed the memo that CCP sent to us long before the new patch that 1.6 was being reduced to just bug fixes. At first they said there was going to be major changes but then they changed their mind about 2 weeks prior to the update due to complications.
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 116	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:27:00 - [46] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: To OP, CCP typically do not share information early for the same exact reason you just provided. People like yourself take it as if they are supposed to be promises. To others as per CCP Rouge's letter 1.6 is going to be small similar to 1.3. If and if all goes well 1.7 ( if numbered as such can't tell this far out) should have some meat to it. Vehicle changes are not in 1.6. When people ask for information about what's going to be in patch xxxx they EXPECT to be told what is actually going to be IN the patch not what they hope to be in it ... It isn;t like CCP put out the notes 6 months in advance they do it if we are lucky 1 week before the patch, if they have nothing completed and ready to be patched a week before the update then that is the real problem We all know how unreliable CCP are so when we ask for info on what's going to be IN the next patch we'd liek to know what is 100% in the patch not what they HOPE to have in the patch .. that is the annoying thing, I personally don;t care what CCP hope to put into their patches all I want to know is what is actually going to be in the patches ... it's obvious they say things like PVE/Racial Variants/Vehicle rebalance may be coming in patch xxxx to keep players interested because if you were honest and told us now that PVE/Racial Variants/Gamemodes/Maps/Vehicle rebalance wont be here for 6 months you know full well 90% of the population woudl go screw this then I'll come back in 6 months When people ask these days CCP is rather mum about it until about two weeks out from patch. Usually. Every smart company does this, it could be 1 day before patch and something is discovered that breaks the game 100%, like firing a mass driver 3 times then swapping to ar and emptying the clip causes the server to crash or something like that, yes that would require a commando suit. CCP are like the boy who cried wolf They keep saying fanciful things like PVE/Racial Variants of weapons/new suits/gamemodes/new maps are coming and then they don;t come and 1 day they will actually say that they are adding them and actually follow through with it but it will be to late as everyone wont believe them and will be busy playing something else
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 2017	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:34:00 - [47] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: SgtDoughnut wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: To OP, CCP typically do not share information early for the same exact reason you just provided. People like yourself take it as if they are supposed to be promises. To others as per CCP Rouge's letter 1.6 is going to be small similar to 1.3. If and if all goes well 1.7 ( if numbered as such can't tell this far out) should have some meat to it. Vehicle changes are not in 1.6. When people ask for information about what's going to be in patch xxxx they EXPECT to be told what is actually going to be IN the patch not what they hope to be in it ... It isn;t like CCP put out the notes 6 months in advance they do it if we are lucky 1 week before the patch, if they have nothing completed and ready to be patched a week before the update then that is the real problem We all know how unreliable CCP are so when we ask for info on what's going to be IN the next patch we'd liek to know what is 100% in the patch not what they HOPE to have in the patch .. that is the annoying thing, I personally don;t care what CCP hope to put into their patches all I want to know is what is actually going to be in the patches ... it's obvious they say things like PVE/Racial Variants/Vehicle rebalance may be coming in patch xxxx to keep players interested because if you were honest and told us now that PVE/Racial Variants/Gamemodes/Maps/Vehicle rebalance wont be here for 6 months you know full well 90% of the population woudl go screw this then I'll come back in 6 months When people ask these days CCP is rather mum about it until about two weeks out from patch. Usually. Every smart company does this, it could be 1 day before patch and something is discovered that breaks the game 100%, like firing a mass driver 3 times then swapping to ar and emptying the clip causes the server to crash or something like that, yes that would require a commando suit. CCP are like the boy who cried wolf They keep saying fanciful things like PVE/Racial Variants of weapons/new suits/gamemodes/new maps are coming and then they don;t come and 1 day they will actually say that they are adding them and actually follow through with it but it will be to late as everyone wont believe them and will be busy playing something else 1. They never said when PVE would be out 2. They never said when racial variants would be out 3. They said that they hoped to have weapons out, but didn't say it definitively - and it was then decided it wasnt' ready 4. They never said when new game modes would be out 5. They just gave us new maps and have said they don't have an ETA on more yet (you seem to gloss the fact that we got 3 new maps last month)
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 116	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:35:00 - [48] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Saying a patch was disappointing is hardly a hissy fit lol Im disappointed that It's raining in the UK today .. OMG stop throwing a hissy fit at rain I don't want to be told everything, when I ask for info on what's coming in the next patch all I want to know is what they actually have ready and waiting to be implemented .. I see absolutely no reason for CCP to Infer anything ... CCP have said that they add things as and when they are ready in the next patch so how difficult is it for them to say .. this has been completed and will be in the next patch ???? That is the whole reason for the monthly updates If I wanted to speculate about what MIGHT be in the next patch I'd create a thread and ask the opinions of other players FYI Trolling me because you've had a day is fine, I'm a big boy I can handle it but you don't half make yourself seem like a moron Not a hissy fit, eh? Let's have a look at what you've done in this thread so far. You have: Wildly accused anyone disagreeing with you of being a troll. Told people politely disagreeing with you to 'go **** themselves'. Also told someone to 'get bent' and that their 'opinion is invalid'. Spammed 'I don't care' in caps. Yes, I'm sure you're conducting yourself in a dignified and respectable manner rather than a hissy fit. And with that, I'm out of this thread. o7 -They weren't disagreeing with me xD They said I should lower my expectations and expect nothing that way no matter what they do it'll be better than I expected and then I wont be disappointed and that was to 1 person not 'wildy accusing anyone' Lol -Again that was to the same person the last point you made was about and once again it was about taking a pessimistic tone of expecting nothing and not being disappointed -Again this is about the exact same conversation who I had with the exact same person and again is about the exact same pessimism - Again .. how many time sdo i have to explain this ? Same conversation, same person, same reason Seems to me you read what I wrote but not what the other person wrote or even who the other person was .. for you to not see that I was speaking to the same person over the course of .. umm . 6/7 comments I think ? Is pretty funny
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 771	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:36:00 - [49] - Quote I don't think its a disappointment. It just wasn't a very big achievement. Of course for CCP everything they do probably takes work and is hence an achievement. But this patch is good. It didn't do anything bad nor did it do anything GREAT. But it fulfilled a lot of things to the point where your "Meh, it's good" Though a DS pilots probably like more.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 2017	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:39:00 - [50] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Saying a patch was disappointing is hardly a hissy fit lol Im disappointed that It's raining in the UK today .. OMG stop throwing a hissy fit at rain I don't want to be told everything, when I ask for info on what's coming in the next patch all I want to know is what they actually have ready and waiting to be implemented .. I see absolutely no reason for CCP to Infer anything ... CCP have said that they add things as and when they are ready in the next patch so how difficult is it for them to say .. this has been completed and will be in the next patch ???? That is the whole reason for the monthly updates If I wanted to speculate about what MIGHT be in the next patch I'd create a thread and ask the opinions of other players FYI Trolling me because you've had a day is fine, I'm a big boy I can handle it but you don't half make yourself seem like a moron Not a hissy fit, eh? Let's have a look at what you've done in this thread so far. You have: Wildly accused anyone disagreeing with you of being a troll. Told people politely disagreeing with you to 'go **** themselves'. Also told someone to 'get bent' and that their 'opinion is invalid'. Spammed 'I don't care' in caps. Yes, I'm sure you're conducting yourself in a dignified and respectable manner rather than a hissy fit. And with that, I'm out of this thread. o7 -They weren't disagreeing with me xD They said I should lower my expectations and expect nothing that way no matter what they do it'll be better than I expected and then I wont be disappointed and that was to 1 person not 'wildy accusing anyone' Lol -Again that was to the same person the last point you made was about and once again it was about taking a pessimistic tone of expecting nothing and not being disappointed -Again this is about the exact same conversation who I had with the exact same person and again is about the exact same pessimism - Again .. how many time sdo i have to explain this ? Same conversation, same person, same reason Seems to me you read what I wrote but not what the other person wrote or even who the other person was .. for you to not see that I was speaking to the same person over the course of .. umm . 6/7 comments I think ? Is pretty funny Actually, hoping and expecting are two different things. Expecting something to be bad is pessimistic. Expecting something to be good is optimistic. Not expecting anything is in between and is objective. Now hope, hope is a different story. If someone has hope, then being "optimistic" or "pessimitistic" is no where included in the evaluation. It's just hope - and when you don't expect anything one way or the other, and hope wins out - then you are happy. But if you don't expect good or bad, then if it's bad you are not disappointed. This is my approach to life, not just a game. It's served me well during my 35 years on the planet. EDIT: To OP, I never said to expect the game to be bad - it seems you are again inferring incorrectly my meaning.

Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 773	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:41:00 - [51] - Quote Title translation in CCP's eyes. "I don't mean to sound rude but your baby is hideous."
ABadMutha13 Nihil-Obstat Mercs General Tso's Alliance 39	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:45:00 - [52] - Quote [/quote] CCP are like the boy who cried wolf They keep saying fanciful things like PVE/Racial Variants of weapons/new suits/gamemodes/new maps are coming and then they don;t come and 1 day they will actually say that they are adding them and actually follow through with it but it will be to late as everyone wont believe them and will be busy playing something else[/quote] 1. They never said when PVE would be out 2. They never said when racial variants would be out 3. They said that they hoped to have weapons out, but didn't say it definitively - and it was then decided it wasnt' ready 4. They never said when new game modes would be out 5. They just gave us new maps and have said they don't have an ETA on more yet (you seem to gloss the fact that we got 3 new maps last month)[/quote] So ummm what have they released? Quick tell me the big patch release that made you fall in love with the game.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 2017	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:49:00 - [53] - Quote ABadMutha13 wrote: CCP are like the boy who cried wolf They keep saying fanciful things like PVE/Racial Variants of weapons/new suits/gamemodes/new maps are coming and then they don;t come and 1 day they will actually say that they are adding them and actually follow through with it but it will be to late as everyone wont believe them and will be busy playing something else[/quote] 1. They never said when PVE would be out 2. They never said when racial variants would be out 3. They said that they hoped to have weapons out, but didn't say it definitively - and it was then decided it wasnt' ready 4. They never said when new game modes would be out 5. They just gave us new maps and have said they don't have an ETA on more yet (you seem to gloss the fact that we got 3 new maps last month)[/quote] So ummm what have they released? Quick tell me the big patch release that made you fall in love with the game. [/quote] E3 build, May 2012, and it was buggy as hell but still a lot of fun. Game has come an incredibly long way since then to be honest. EDIT: would you like me to list all of the changes? It'll take a while, if so... also my memory is bad so it will not be a comprehensive list
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 690	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:50:00 - [54] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: I don't mean this in the way that the things they have introduced have been rubbish or anything like that, what I mean is that 1.5 was promised to be introducing new weapons and balancing and adding vehicles ... compared to what 1.5 was going to be what we actually have is pretty much .. Meh ... I'ts like being promised an Ice Cream and being given just the cone Furthermore we now also know that 1.6 isn;t going to have these things either and is just going to be general boring fixes again ... So far compared to what CCP originally promised us .. DUST 514 is basically 1 giant .. Meh ... TL;DR Playing DUST 514 is like building a house and moving in before the electrics/windows/door/carpets/plumbing/roof have been added, sure you can live there but it's hardly ready to be lived in maybe you're doing it wrong?
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 117	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:53:00 - [55] - Quote [/quote]They said, "we want to put x in the next release", and then said "x isn't ready like we planned so here is y which is ready", and now you are "disappointed" about it (even though you said the game is awful as result, which is different than simply being disappointed, so I'll just leave this here). Behaving the way you seem to is annoying to people, which is why you are getting negative replies to your thread. It's not that you are disappointed that is annoying - it is the feeling that things should be the way you want and only you want because gosh darn it you are entitled to it. Even if you don't mean it this way, that's what it looks like from the outside[/quote]. [/quote] I explained this before .. this game right now IS AWFUL .. it's a lobby shooter with balance issues a severe lack of content and bugs and glitches galore xD Doesn't mean I don't like it, doesn't mean I don't think it can become a good game but it doesn't stop it being awful lol I'm disappointed because CCP said they were potentially working on fixing 1 of those problems (the lack of content) but they didn't .. I hoped they would add them .. I didn't expect them too I HOPED and they didn't .. TL;DR I hope to win the lottery .. I don;t expect to win the lottery .. when I don;t win the lottery I'm disappointed .. not because I'd expected to win but because there was a chance that I could win and I didn't Reason I'm not putting up with any of the crap from certain people on my own thread is because they don;t seem to be able to comprehend that you can be disappointed about something even if you;d only hoped it would happen rather than expected it to happen .. hence my lottery example and that person referred to me as an idiot despite not being able to understand this extremely simple concept hence my rather unforgiving retort
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 2017	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:59:00 - [56] - Quote They are still working on it - it just wasn't ready yet so they delayed it. Big deal. You have to wait longer for a free game to add content that wasn't ready yet anyway, so they decided not to put out an even buggier product. Had they released the content earlier, I can tell you would have been one of the people complaining about the bugs that exist because the release wasn't ready yet. And people get what you are saying - it's how you are saying it that is annoying to people. You say people aren't reading what you say, but you are guilty of the same both in terms of what you "read" that CCP puts out and in terms of the replies. I don't know you outside of this thread, but right here right now in this thread you are being hypocritical. EDIT: I didn't see anyone call you an idiot in this thread.
HYENAKILLER X Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION 295	Posted - 2013.10.14 23:12:00 - [57] - Quote Stone cold brutal honesty: graphics look choppier than before. No more war barge means I dont win any dance offs. Lots of instances where everythinf looks al 1 color. Game play and everything else is fine.
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 117	Posted - 2013.10.14 23:17:00 - [58] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: [quote=Rinzler XVII] Saying a patch was disappointing is hardly a hissy fit lol Im disappointed that It's raining in the UK today .. OMG stop throwing a hissy fit at rain I don't want to be told everything, when I ask for info on what's coming in the next patch all I want to know is what they actually have ready and waiting to be implemented .. I see absolutely no reason for CCP to Infer anything ... CCP have said that they add things as and when they are ready in the next patch so how difficult is it for them to say .. this has been completed and will be in the next patch ???? That is the whole reason for the monthly updates If I wanted to speculate about what MIGHT be in the next patch I'd create a thread and ask the opinions of other players FYI Trolling me because you've had a day is fine, I'm a big boy I can handle it but you don't half make yourself seem like a moron Not a hissy fit, eh? Let's have a look at what you've done in this thread so far. You have: Wildly accused anyone disagreeing with you of being a troll. Told people politely disagreeing with you to 'go **** themselves'. Also told someone to 'get bent' and that their 'opinion is invalid'. Spammed 'I don't care' in caps. Yes, I'm sure you're conducting yourself in a dignified and respectable manner rather than a hissy fit. And with that, I'm out of this thread. o7 -They weren't disagreeing with me xD They said I should lower my expectations and expect nothing that way no matter what they do it'll be better than I expected and then I wont be disappointed and that was to 1 person not 'wildy accusing anyone' Lol -Again that was to the same person the last point you made was about and once again it was about taking a pessimistic tone of expecting nothing and not being disappointed -Again this is about the exact same conversation who I had with the exact same person and again is about the exact same pessimism - Again .. how many time sdo i have to explain this ? Same conversation, same person, same reason Seems to me you read what I wrote but not what the other person wrote or even who the other person was .. for you to not see that I was speaking to the same person over the course of .. umm . 6/7 comments I think ? Is pretty funny Actually, hoping and expecting are two different things. Expecting something to be bad is pessimistic. Expecting something to be good is optimistic. Not expecting anything is in between and is objective. Now hope, hope is a different story. If someone has hope, then being "optimistic" or "pessimitistic" is no where included in the evaluation. It's just hope - and when you don't expect anything one way or the other, and hope wins out - then you are happy. But if you don't expect good or bad, then if it's bad you are not disappointed. This is my approach to life, not just a game. It's served me well during my 35 years on the planet. EDIT: To OP, I never said to expect the game to be bad - it seems you are again inferring incorrectly my meaning.[/quote -Yes I shouldn't have referred to expecting nothing as pessimism but I honestly didn;t feel like repeatedly saying'expecting nothing' -You are completely and utterly wrong with your description of hope btw Hope:-A feeling of expectation and desire for a certain thing to happen. If you aren't expecting something to happen one way or the other IT IS NOT HOPE lol I now see where your entire point is coming from now, you completely misunderstood that I had only hoped that new weapons would be added and instead thought that I was expecting them to be added hence my disappointment however when you hope something is going to happen and it doesn't you can be disappointed as well If you've spent your entire life not expecting anything then you have lived your life without ever experiencing hope .. sorry but unless your life is perfect and you have never suffered any hardships then livign without hope is 1 hell of a depressing way to live
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 117	Posted - 2013.10.14 23:21:00 - [59] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: They are still working on it - it just wasn't ready yet so they delayed it. Big deal. You have to wait longer for a free game to add content that wasn't ready yet anyway, so they decided not to put out an even buggier product. Had they released the content earlier, I can tell you would have been one of the people complaining about the bugs that exist because the release wasn't ready yet. And people get what you are saying - it's how you are saying it that is annoying to people. You say people aren't reading what you say, but you are guilty of the same both in terms of what you "read" that CCP puts out and in terms of the replies. I don't know you outside of this thread, but right here right now in this thread you are being hypocritical. EDIT: I didn't see anyone call you an idiot in this thread. #37Posted: 2013.10.14 21:56 \| Report Like 3 Rinzler XVII wrote: Crash Monster wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Noooooooooooooooo .. My point is that they promised the world and gave us a pebble .. had they not said anything about new weapons and vehicles being added in 1.5 I wouldn't feel so disappointed in 1.5 .. It seems to me that they say they are going to add certain things to keep people interested They are forced to tell us what they hope because everyone cries like a banshee for more communication from them. It's a vicious and never ending circle. Players just want some realistic timescales .. the lack of communication is more to do with being told things are in the pipeline or delayed and then left on the backburner with no further information rather than people demanding to know exactly everything that is going to be in the next patch ... At this point I'm starting to get the impression that part of the reason we're not told everything is because so many idiots like you throw hissy fits when everything doesn't happen exactly as they inferred it would.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 2032	Posted - 2013.10.15 19:11:00 - [60] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: They are still working on it - it just wasn't ready yet so they delayed it. Big deal. You have to wait longer for a free game to add content that wasn't ready yet anyway, so they decided not to put out an even buggier product. Had they released the content earlier, I can tell you would have been one of the people complaining about the bugs that exist because the release wasn't ready yet. And people get what you are saying - it's how you are saying it that is annoying to people. You say people aren't reading what you say, but you are guilty of the same both in terms of what you "read" that CCP puts out and in terms of the replies. I don't know you outside of this thread, but right here right now in this thread you are being hypocritical. EDIT: I didn't see anyone call you an idiot in this thread. Page 2 Arkena Wrynspire or however you spell it QUOTE At this point I'm starting to get the impression that part of the reason we're not told everything is because so many idiots like you throw hissy fits when everything doesn't happen exactly as they inferred it would. QUOTE -I always go down the route that If people speak to me in a tone I don;t like then i'll respond to them in an equally ignorant tone, unfortunately on things like this other people will read the post and presume that has been my tone throughout without understanding that my tone is that way because of how I've been spoken too Simple fact is I can comfortably have proper discussions without hurling abuse or talking down to people however if people start trolling I'll treat them like crap It's why apart from my initial Post everyother post I've made is directly aimed at the person I'm quoting .. Arkena responded to a response I made to someone else and gave me abuse and then you responded to a response I made to someone else ... Interesting. I gave you some advice that would help you avoid disappointment and you attacked me. Again, hypocritical. Just an observation.

Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3929	Posted - 2013.10.15 19:13:00 - [61] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: EDIT: I didn't see anyone call you an idiot in this thread. I did.
Lightning Bolt2 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 261	Posted - 2013.10.15 22:37:00 - [62] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: I don't mean this in the way that the things they have introduced have been rubbish or anything like that, what I mean is that 1.5 was promised to be introducing new weapons and balancing and adding vehicles ... compared to what 1.5 was going to be what we actually have is pretty much .. Meh ... I'ts like being promised an Ice Cream and being given just the cone Furthermore we now also know that 1.6 isn;t going to have these things either and is just going to be general boring fixes again ... So far compared to what CCP originally promised us .. DUST 514 is basically 1 giant .. Meh ... TL;DR Playing DUST 514 is like building a house and moving in before the electrics/windows/door/carpets/plumbing/roof have been added, sure you can live there but it's hardly ready to be lived in yup... vehicle fixes get pushed back AND new weapons get pushed back, ect, ect, ect. CCP needs more coordination or they'll keep having their promised updates pushed back! (and lower the playerbase even more because of it, I'm on the verge of quiting this game for that reason... and because of scouts and their problems!)
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 2043	Posted - 2013.10.15 22:38:00 - [63] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: EDIT: I didn't see anyone call you an idiot in this thread. I did. I stand corrected.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 386	Posted - 2013.10.15 23:23:00 - [64] - Quote as much as I hate to say it adapt or die is a rather fitting motto. simply excepting and working with what you have makes the game a brighter place. I hated the scout suit for a long time but I buckled down and started using it. It was hard at first my KDR was almost never positive but with time I got better with it, yesterday I went 30/7. yes I would like a scout buff, I read the patch notes looking for one with every update but I don't expect one and I don't get excited about new content. the way I see it, if it happens it happens if it doesn't it doesn't. every update I download look over and think nifty neat-o then move back to what I do. weapons and maps come and go but I remain content to watch it fly bye. EDIT: sorta depressing to re-read that
General Erick Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 159	Posted - 2013.10.15 23:25:00 - [65] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: I don't mean this in the way that the things they have introduced have been rubbish or anything like that, what I mean is that 1.5 was promised to be introducing new weapons and balancing and adding vehicles ... compared to what 1.5 was going to be what we actually have is pretty much .. Meh ... It's like being promised an Ice Cream and being given just the cone Furthermore we now also know that 1.6 isn;t going to have these things either and is just going to be general boring fixes again ... So far compared to what CCP originally promised us .. DUST 514 is basically 1 giant .. Meh ... TL;DR Playing DUST 514 is like building a house and moving in before the electrics/windows/door/carpets/plumbing/roof have been added, sure you can live there but it's hardly ready to be lived in So you would rather like just the cream. That's what we would have gotten because CCP didn't have it ready.


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