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Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1971	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:44:00 - [1] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: I don't mean this in the way that the things they have introduced have been rubbish or anything like that, what I mean is that 1.5 was promised to be introducing new weapons and balancing and adding vehicles ... compared to what 1.5 was going to be what we actually have is pretty much .. Meh ... I'ts like being promised an Ice Cream and being given just the cone Furthermore we now also know that 1.6 isn;t going to have these things either and is just going to be general boring fixes again ... So far compared to what CCP originally promised us .. DUST 514 is basically 1 giant .. Meh ... TL;DR Playing DUST 514 is like building a house and moving in before the electrics/windows/door/carpets/plumbing/roof have been added, sure you can live there but it's hardly ready to be lived in They did not promise it - they were hoping to release it, but it wasn't ready. Manage your expectations and pay attention to what is actually said (and not what you infer) and you are less likely to be disappointed. And no we don't know what is in 1.6. Again, they are hoping to have vehicle fixes started in 1.6 but have said it may be 1.7.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1971	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:46:00 - [2] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Chimichanga66605 wrote: Meh, 1.5 was better than nothing. -Chimi out, o7 Noooooooooooooooo .. My point is that they promised the world and gave us a pebble .. had they not said anything about new weapons and vehicles being added in 1.5 I wouldn't feel so disappointed in 1.5 .. It seems to me that they say they are going to add certain things to keep people interested It's like me going upto Scarlett Johanson and saying right now im pretty rubbish but I'm going to be a billionaire president of the USA and the most handsome guy in the world so go out with me now and in the future you will have all this ... They wouldn't have even told you what they did if not for people complaining as it was - they were trying to show that they were working on it, and then people got it in their head that "planning" something was the same as "definitely happening", which it isn't and never has been in reality. Again, expectation management on your part is called for.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1971	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:54:00 - [3] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: I don't mean this in the way that the things they have introduced have been rubbish or anything like that, what I mean is that 1.5 was promised to be introducing new weapons and balancing and adding vehicles ... compared to what 1.5 was going to be what we actually have is pretty much .. Meh ... I'ts like being promised an Ice Cream and being given just the cone Furthermore we now also know that 1.6 isn;t going to have these things either and is just going to be general boring fixes again ... So far compared to what CCP originally promised us .. DUST 514 is basically 1 giant .. Meh ... TL;DR Playing DUST 514 is like building a house and moving in before the electrics/windows/door/carpets/plumbing/roof have been added, sure you can live there but it's hardly ready to be lived in They did not promise it - they were hoping to release it, but it wasn't ready. Manage your expectations and pay attention to what is actually said (and not what you infer) and you are less likely to be disappointed. And no we don't know what is in 1.6. Again, they are hoping to have vehicle fixes started in 1.6 but have said it may be 1.7. I hope I'll be able to writet a response without insulting you .... Oh .. Go fck yourself ... sorry I wasn't able to stick to that but I did only say that I hope I'd be able to reply without insulting you You didn't insult me, as I managed my expectations of your maturity (meaning I didn't expect any). Oh and the word is "write", and not "right" when you are dealing with the written word.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1971	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:56:00 - [4] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Chimichanga66605 wrote: Meh, 1.5 was better than nothing. -Chimi out, o7 Noooooooooooooooo .. My point is that they promised the world and gave us a pebble .. had they not said anything about new weapons and vehicles being added in 1.5 I wouldn't feel so disappointed in 1.5 .. It seems to me that they say they are going to add certain things to keep people interested It's like me going upto Scarlett Johanson and saying right now im pretty rubbish but I'm going to be a billionaire president of the USA and the most handsome guy in the world so go out with me now and in the future you will have all this ... They wouldn't have even told you what they did if not for people complaining as it was - they were trying to show that they were working on it, and then people got it in their head that "planning" something was the same as "definitely happening", which it isn't and never has been in reality. Again, expectation management on your part is called for. I expected this game to be half decent .. Turns out it's a pile of Poop ... So again, your expectations are the cause of your frustration. Expect nothing, and you won't be disappointed. Expect nothing, and you will be pleased when good things happen. EDIT: also note I have no sympathy for someone who doesn't enjoy something but does it anyway - no one if forcing you to play so if you don't enjoy it, there's the door.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1972	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:04:00 - [5] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: I don't mean this in the way that the things they have introduced have been rubbish or anything like that, what I mean is that 1.5 was promised to be introducing new weapons and balancing and adding vehicles ... compared to what 1.5 was going to be what we actually have is pretty much .. Meh ... I'ts like being promised an Ice Cream and being given just the cone Furthermore we now also know that 1.6 isn;t going to have these things either and is just going to be general boring fixes again ... So far compared to what CCP originally promised us .. DUST 514 is basically 1 giant .. Meh ... TL;DR Playing DUST 514 is like building a house and moving in before the electrics/windows/door/carpets/plumbing/roof have been added, sure you can live there but it's hardly ready to be lived in They did not promise it - they were hoping to release it, but it wasn't ready. Manage your expectations and pay attention to what is actually said (and not what you infer) and you are less likely to be disappointed. And no we don't know what is in 1.6. Again, they are hoping to have vehicle fixes started in 1.6 but have said it may be 1.7. I hope I'll be able to writet a response without insulting you .... Oh .. Go fck yourself ... sorry I wasn't able to stick to that but I did only say that I hope I'd be able to reply without insulting you You didn't insult me, as I managed my expectations of your maturity (meaning I didn't expect any). Yes because only Children insult people don;t they ... I've never heard any mature adult say anything insulting about anyone .. Dude we are playing a godamn video game set in an imaginary universe .. If you honestly think insulting someone is immature then what level of maturity do you put to playing a videogame ? God I love these self important prix who like to 'tell' you what you should do I never told you what to do. I only pointed out I had no expectations of you. And yes, adults can be immature as well - it is not limited to children. I never called you a child - instead you (again) inferred something that wasn't there.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1973	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:13:00 - [6] - Quote And what does it say about you to continue playing something you don't like? *** I hope a game is good. I don't expect it to be good. Thus, I am not disappointed with any game.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1973	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:22:00 - [7] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: And what does it say about you to continue playing something you don't like? *** I hope a game is good. I don't expect it to be good. Thus, I am not disappointed with any game. I don't care I really don't care I really really don't care I really really REALLY DON'T CARE I can't make it any clearer than that I know. Hope you like the next game you play.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1973	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:30:00 - [8] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: And what does it say about you to continue playing something you don't like? *** I hope a game is good. I don't expect it to be good. Thus, I am not disappointed with any game. I don't care I really don't care I really really don't care I really really REALLY DON'T CARE I can't make it any clearer than that I know. Hope you like the next game you play. I like DUST 514 .. it doesn't stop me being disappointed with it though Ah - I was confused by your statement " I wouldn;t have played this game in the 1st place if I thought it was going to be awful .." read as if you didn't like the game.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1994	Posted - 2013.10.14 21:43:00 - [9] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: howard sanchez wrote: Will you two just please get a room? Waiting for CCP to add the new content of 'A Room' ... it's been put back .. hopefully it will be out by Update 2.2 .. I like rooms.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 2012	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:20:00 - [10] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Crash Monster wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Noooooooooooooooo .. My point is that they promised the world and gave us a pebble .. had they not said anything about new weapons and vehicles being added in 1.5 I wouldn't feel so disappointed in 1.5 .. It seems to me that they say they are going to add certain things to keep people interested They are forced to tell us what they hope because everyone cries like a banshee for more communication from them. It's a vicious and never ending circle. Players just want some realistic timescales .. the lack of communication is more to do with being told things are in the pipeline or delayed and then left on the backburner with no further information rather than people demanding to know exactly everything that is going to be in the next patch ... At this point I'm starting to get the impression that part of the reason we're not told everything is because so many idiots like you throw hissy fits when everything doesn't happen exactly as they inferred it would. Saying a patch was disappointing is hardly a hissy fit lol Im disappointed that It's raining in the UK today .. OMG stop throwing a hissy fit at rain I don't want to be told everything, when I ask for info on what's coming in the next patch all I want to know is what they actually have ready and waiting to be implemented .. I see absolutely no reason for CCP to Infer anything ... CCP have said that they add things as and when they are ready in the next patch so how difficult is it for them to say .. this has been completed and will be in the next patch ???? That is the whole reason for the monthly updates If I wanted to speculate about what MIGHT be in the next patch I'd create a thread and ask the opinions of other players FYI Trolling me because you've had a day is fine, I'm a big boy I can handle it but you don't half make yourself seem like a moron They said, "we want to put x in the next release", and then said "x isn't ready like we planned so here is y which is ready", and now you are "disappointed" about it (even though you said the game is awful as result, which is different than simply being disappointed, so I'll just leave this here). Behaving the way you seem to is annoying to people, which is why you are getting negative replies to your thread. It's not that you are disappointed that is annoying - it is the feeling that things should be the way you want and only you want because gosh darn it you are entitled to it. Even if you don't mean it this way, that's what it looks like from the outside.

Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 2017	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:34:00 - [11] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: SgtDoughnut wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: To OP, CCP typically do not share information early for the same exact reason you just provided. People like yourself take it as if they are supposed to be promises. To others as per CCP Rouge's letter 1.6 is going to be small similar to 1.3. If and if all goes well 1.7 ( if numbered as such can't tell this far out) should have some meat to it. Vehicle changes are not in 1.6. When people ask for information about what's going to be in patch xxxx they EXPECT to be told what is actually going to be IN the patch not what they hope to be in it ... It isn;t like CCP put out the notes 6 months in advance they do it if we are lucky 1 week before the patch, if they have nothing completed and ready to be patched a week before the update then that is the real problem We all know how unreliable CCP are so when we ask for info on what's going to be IN the next patch we'd liek to know what is 100% in the patch not what they HOPE to have in the patch .. that is the annoying thing, I personally don;t care what CCP hope to put into their patches all I want to know is what is actually going to be in the patches ... it's obvious they say things like PVE/Racial Variants/Vehicle rebalance may be coming in patch xxxx to keep players interested because if you were honest and told us now that PVE/Racial Variants/Gamemodes/Maps/Vehicle rebalance wont be here for 6 months you know full well 90% of the population woudl go screw this then I'll come back in 6 months When people ask these days CCP is rather mum about it until about two weeks out from patch. Usually. Every smart company does this, it could be 1 day before patch and something is discovered that breaks the game 100%, like firing a mass driver 3 times then swapping to ar and emptying the clip causes the server to crash or something like that, yes that would require a commando suit. CCP are like the boy who cried wolf They keep saying fanciful things like PVE/Racial Variants of weapons/new suits/gamemodes/new maps are coming and then they don;t come and 1 day they will actually say that they are adding them and actually follow through with it but it will be to late as everyone wont believe them and will be busy playing something else 1. They never said when PVE would be out 2. They never said when racial variants would be out 3. They said that they hoped to have weapons out, but didn't say it definitively - and it was then decided it wasnt' ready 4. They never said when new game modes would be out 5. They just gave us new maps and have said they don't have an ETA on more yet (you seem to gloss the fact that we got 3 new maps last month)
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 2017	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:39:00 - [12] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Saying a patch was disappointing is hardly a hissy fit lol Im disappointed that It's raining in the UK today .. OMG stop throwing a hissy fit at rain I don't want to be told everything, when I ask for info on what's coming in the next patch all I want to know is what they actually have ready and waiting to be implemented .. I see absolutely no reason for CCP to Infer anything ... CCP have said that they add things as and when they are ready in the next patch so how difficult is it for them to say .. this has been completed and will be in the next patch ???? That is the whole reason for the monthly updates If I wanted to speculate about what MIGHT be in the next patch I'd create a thread and ask the opinions of other players FYI Trolling me because you've had a day is fine, I'm a big boy I can handle it but you don't half make yourself seem like a moron Not a hissy fit, eh? Let's have a look at what you've done in this thread so far. You have: Wildly accused anyone disagreeing with you of being a troll. Told people politely disagreeing with you to 'go **** themselves'. Also told someone to 'get bent' and that their 'opinion is invalid'. Spammed 'I don't care' in caps. Yes, I'm sure you're conducting yourself in a dignified and respectable manner rather than a hissy fit. And with that, I'm out of this thread. o7 -They weren't disagreeing with me xD They said I should lower my expectations and expect nothing that way no matter what they do it'll be better than I expected and then I wont be disappointed and that was to 1 person not 'wildy accusing anyone' Lol -Again that was to the same person the last point you made was about and once again it was about taking a pessimistic tone of expecting nothing and not being disappointed -Again this is about the exact same conversation who I had with the exact same person and again is about the exact same pessimism - Again .. how many time sdo i have to explain this ? Same conversation, same person, same reason Seems to me you read what I wrote but not what the other person wrote or even who the other person was .. for you to not see that I was speaking to the same person over the course of .. umm . 6/7 comments I think ? Is pretty funny Actually, hoping and expecting are two different things. Expecting something to be bad is pessimistic. Expecting something to be good is optimistic. Not expecting anything is in between and is objective. Now hope, hope is a different story. If someone has hope, then being "optimistic" or "pessimitistic" is no where included in the evaluation. It's just hope - and when you don't expect anything one way or the other, and hope wins out - then you are happy. But if you don't expect good or bad, then if it's bad you are not disappointed. This is my approach to life, not just a game. It's served me well during my 35 years on the planet. EDIT: To OP, I never said to expect the game to be bad - it seems you are again inferring incorrectly my meaning.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 2017	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:49:00 - [13] - Quote ABadMutha13 wrote: CCP are like the boy who cried wolf They keep saying fanciful things like PVE/Racial Variants of weapons/new suits/gamemodes/new maps are coming and then they don;t come and 1 day they will actually say that they are adding them and actually follow through with it but it will be to late as everyone wont believe them and will be busy playing something else[/quote] 1. They never said when PVE would be out 2. They never said when racial variants would be out 3. They said that they hoped to have weapons out, but didn't say it definitively - and it was then decided it wasnt' ready 4. They never said when new game modes would be out 5. They just gave us new maps and have said they don't have an ETA on more yet (you seem to gloss the fact that we got 3 new maps last month)[/quote] So ummm what have they released? Quick tell me the big patch release that made you fall in love with the game. [/quote] E3 build, May 2012, and it was buggy as hell but still a lot of fun. Game has come an incredibly long way since then to be honest. EDIT: would you like me to list all of the changes? It'll take a while, if so... also my memory is bad so it will not be a comprehensive list
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 2017	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:59:00 - [14] - Quote They are still working on it - it just wasn't ready yet so they delayed it. Big deal. You have to wait longer for a free game to add content that wasn't ready yet anyway, so they decided not to put out an even buggier product. Had they released the content earlier, I can tell you would have been one of the people complaining about the bugs that exist because the release wasn't ready yet. And people get what you are saying - it's how you are saying it that is annoying to people. You say people aren't reading what you say, but you are guilty of the same both in terms of what you "read" that CCP puts out and in terms of the replies. I don't know you outside of this thread, but right here right now in this thread you are being hypocritical. EDIT: I didn't see anyone call you an idiot in this thread.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 2032	Posted - 2013.10.15 19:11:00 - [15] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: They are still working on it - it just wasn't ready yet so they delayed it. Big deal. You have to wait longer for a free game to add content that wasn't ready yet anyway, so they decided not to put out an even buggier product. Had they released the content earlier, I can tell you would have been one of the people complaining about the bugs that exist because the release wasn't ready yet. And people get what you are saying - it's how you are saying it that is annoying to people. You say people aren't reading what you say, but you are guilty of the same both in terms of what you "read" that CCP puts out and in terms of the replies. I don't know you outside of this thread, but right here right now in this thread you are being hypocritical. EDIT: I didn't see anyone call you an idiot in this thread. Page 2 Arkena Wrynspire or however you spell it QUOTE At this point I'm starting to get the impression that part of the reason we're not told everything is because so many idiots like you throw hissy fits when everything doesn't happen exactly as they inferred it would. QUOTE -I always go down the route that If people speak to me in a tone I don;t like then i'll respond to them in an equally ignorant tone, unfortunately on things like this other people will read the post and presume that has been my tone throughout without understanding that my tone is that way because of how I've been spoken too Simple fact is I can comfortably have proper discussions without hurling abuse or talking down to people however if people start trolling I'll treat them like crap It's why apart from my initial Post everyother post I've made is directly aimed at the person I'm quoting .. Arkena responded to a response I made to someone else and gave me abuse and then you responded to a response I made to someone else ... Interesting. I gave you some advice that would help you avoid disappointment and you attacked me. Again, hypocritical. Just an observation.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 2043	Posted - 2013.10.15 22:38:00 - [16] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: EDIT: I didn't see anyone call you an idiot in this thread. I did. I stand corrected.