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Avallo Kantor wrote:

It would be because game development doesn't work like that.

You have multiple teams each responsible for certain areas, such as Faction Warfare, the EVE link, and another team which simply does UI, database improvement, etc.

Each of these teams is working on a "on done" basis, as in, as soon as a feature gets completed, (and tested) it gets put into the next monthly patch.

Putting more people into a team does NOT improve the rate at which it is completed, and often may have the opposite effect. Many of the choices you listed are not worked on by the same team, so there's no way they could even offer that choice. (For example weapon balancing isn't the same team that works on the art / implementation of new assets)

A choice one could feasibly ask would be more along the lines of:

Do you want an Amarrian Map or a Caldari Map?
Do you want to work on Amarr Scout or Caldari Scout?

In many cases however CCP is working on Feedback, such as reducing (or eliminating) the time spent on the Warbarge before matches, or them listening to player feedback in the Vehicle thread. That said, they also have to filter through clearly bad ideas, ideas that counteract the game's ideology, or conflicting ideas.

If player group A wants Tanks to have more HP, and Player group B wants Tanks to have less HP, then no matter what CCP does there will exist a group to claim "CCP doesn't listen to player feedback!"

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Canari Elphus Pro Hic Immortalis 655	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:08:00 - [1] - Quote Im honestly surprised that CCP has not polled the players via survey for this before. We keep hearing about what is coming and what was promised to us months ago but it seems like aside from QQ on the forums, CCP has never formally asked us what our priorities are. What should come first? What would make us happier? Weapon Balancing ----- OR ------ Heavy Racial Variants A Scout Buff --------------- OR ------ Scout Racial Variants New Weapons ----------- OR ------ New Game Modes Rendering Fixes--------- OR ------ Racial Vehicles Racial Suit/Vehicles ---- OR ------ PVE What is the number one thing that you want to have happen first if it required a delay to everything else? What would make you happier playing this game or would get you to return?
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 802	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:10:00 - [2] - Quote 1.Right 2.Right 3.Right 4.Right 5.You do realize that... you know what nvm to much work to explain.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1136	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:16:00 - [3] - Quote I'm going to say..... I want all of them
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 824	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:17:00 - [4] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: Im honestly surprised that CCP has not polled the players via survey for this before. We keep hearing about what is coming and what was promised to us months ago but it seems like aside from QQ on the forums, CCP has never formally asked us what our priorities are. What should come first? What would make us happier? Weapon Balancing ----- OR ------ Heavy Racial Variants A Scout Buff --------------- OR ------ Scout Racial Variants New Weapons ----------- OR ------ New Game Modes Rendering Fixes--------- OR ------ Racial Vehicles Racial Suit/Vehicles ---- OR ------ PVE What is the number one thing that you want to have happen first if it required a delay to everything else? What would make you happier playing this game or would get you to return? 1. I'm fine with the current weapon balance... (what's people complaining about? Still AR? Boring) and I'm not a Heavy... 2. Scout buff. I can't wait for the Caldari Scout, but we need the fix before! 3. New weapons, just because we need to increase the playerbase before splitting it into new modes. 4. Rendering Fixes 5. PVE ALL THE WAY!
Canari Elphus Pro Hic Immortalis 656	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:19:00 - [5] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: 1.Right 2.Right 3.Right 4.Right 5.You do realize that... you know what nvm to much work to explain. Its not so much a full list or even meant to be a vote. I just find it strange that CCP is developing this game further without actually doing a real analysis of what its players want and in what order. Ask questions like: How long would you be willing to wait without an update if PVE became the primary focus of the development team? 1 month 2 months 3 months 4-6 months 6+ months For the future vision of DUST 514, what would you like the main direction to be? Expanding the FPS side Creating a true MMO experience Adding further RPG elements Not Sure What would be more valuable to you as a player in terms of a link to EVE? Full Market Integration Better Expansion of Planetary Conquest Better Expansion of Factional Warefare Not Sure
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 983	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:26:00 - [6] - Quote PVE, Heavies, & Market. All tomorrow and bug free, thanks.
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 930	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:30:00 - [7] - Quote ALL of the above :-P
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 386	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:34:00 - [8] - Quote I know you meant these as examples, but Canari Elphus wrote: How long would you be willing to wait without an update if PVE became the primary focus of the development team? As long as it is not the only thing they are doing, then they can work on it until they are satisfied with it For the future vision of DUST 514, what would you like the main direction to be? ATM, more in the FPS side. I want this game to run as smooth as Halo 2 did After that, more in the MMO side What would be more valuable to you as a player in terms of a link to EVE? Better Expansion of Factional Warefare
Avallo Kantor Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 207	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:34:00 - [9] - Quote It would be because game development doesn't work like that. You have multiple teams each responsible for certain areas, such as Faction Warfare, the EVE link, and another team which simply does UI, database improvement, etc. Each of these teams is working on a "on done" basis, as in, as soon as a feature gets completed, (and tested) it gets put into the next monthly patch. Putting more people into a team does NOT improve the rate at which it is completed, and often may have the opposite effect. Many of the choices you listed are not worked on by the same team, so there's no way they could even offer that choice. (For example weapon balancing isn't the same team that works on the art / implementation of new assets) A choice one could feasibly ask would be more along the lines of: Do you want an Amarrian Map or a Caldari Map? Do you want to work on Amarr Scout or Caldari Scout? In many cases however CCP is working on Feedback, such as reducing (or eliminating) the time spent on the Warbarge before matches, or them listening to player feedback in the Vehicle thread. That said, they also have to filter through clearly bad ideas, ideas that counteract the game's ideology, or conflicting ideas. If player group A wants Tanks to have more HP, and Player group B wants Tanks to have less HP, then no matter what CCP does there will exist a group to claim "CCP doesn't listen to player feedback!"
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1801	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:37:00 - [10] - Quote I'd rather have unbalanced new stuff than timid tweaks to what we have now.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3000	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:38:00 - [11] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: Im honestly surprised that CCP has not polled the players via survey for this before. We keep hearing about what is coming and what was promised to us months ago but it seems like aside from QQ on the forums, CCP has never formally asked us what our priorities are. What should come first? What would make us happier? Weapon Balancing ----- OR ------ Heavy Racial Variants A Scout Buff --------------- OR ------ Scout Racial Variants New Weapons ----------- OR ------ New Game Modes Rendering Fixes--------- OR ------ Racial Vehicles Racial Suit/Vehicles ---- OR ------ PVE What is the number one thing that you want to have happen first if it required a delay to everything else? What would make you happier playing this game or would get you to return? Heavy Racial Varients Scout Buff New Game Modes Rendering Fixes Racial Suits and Vehicles.
Canari Elphus Pro Hic Immortalis 656	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:53:00 - [12] - Quote Avallo Kantor wrote: It would be because game development doesn't work like that. You have multiple teams each responsible for certain areas, such as Faction Warfare, the EVE link, and another team which simply does UI, database improvement, etc. Each of these teams is working on a "on done" basis, as in, as soon as a feature gets completed, (and tested) it gets put into the next monthly patch. Putting more people into a team does NOT improve the rate at which it is completed, and often may have the opposite effect. Many of the choices you listed are not worked on by the same team, so there's no way they could even offer that choice. (For example weapon balancing isn't the same team that works on the art / implementation of new assets) A choice one could feasibly ask would be more along the lines of: Do you want an Amarrian Map or a Caldari Map? Do you want to work on Amarr Scout or Caldari Scout? In many cases however CCP is working on Feedback, such as reducing (or eliminating) the time spent on the Warbarge before matches, or them listening to player feedback in the Vehicle thread. That said, they also have to filter through clearly bad ideas, ideas that counteract the game's ideology, or conflicting ideas. If player group A wants Tanks to have more HP, and Player group B wants Tanks to have less HP, then no matter what CCP does there will exist a group to claim "CCP doesn't listen to player feedback!" And that is fine.. again, this isnt a "I know where this game should go" thread. I have yet to see much polling of the customer base at as far as what they actually want this game to be. There have been plenty of people that have said "thats nice but not what we really need right now" when it comes to features that have been added. Map Team What would you like to see for the next map expansion of the game? - More surface structures - More terrain maps - More planet types etc The idea is to force the player base to choose what they want first. The dev team cannot work on everything at once so its about introducing the most effective releases as you possibly can. Also, the more the players feel that they are helping to direct the game, the better the chance is that they will be satisfied. 'If you build it, they will come' only works in movies. As far as Players A vs. Players B. You will never please everyone. The idea of using surveys is to find a way to please the most amount of people.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4150	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:47:00 - [13] - Quote Why didn't rollover SP make your list?
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1108	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:48:00 - [14] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Heavy Racial Varients Scout Buff New Game Modes Rendering Fixes Racial Suits and Vehicles. Why say it again. This.
Canari Elphus Pro Hic Immortalis 656	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:56:00 - [15] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Why didn't rollover SP make your list? Because its not a complete list. Its more the idea than the examples. Simply put, using a method that a majority of companies use (market research) to help make decisions. The model I am proposing is called a discrete choice. You present people with options of product features and forcing them to choose which one is more important to them. This way you can get an idea of which new features will gather the most positive feedback from your customers.
Hellkeizer The Avutora Complex 152	Posted - 2013.10.14 21:06:00 - [16] - Quote 1. & 2. balancing won't matter if new stuff will make it worthless so, variants 3. Game modes 4. Racial vehicles 5. PvE The number one thing I want to happen, anything that'll make dust fun
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 317	Posted - 2013.10.14 21:37:00 - [17] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: Im honestly surprised that CCP has not polled the players via survey for this before. We keep hearing about what is coming and what was promised to us months ago but it seems like aside from QQ on the forums, CCP has never formally asked us what our priorities are. What should come first? What would make us happier? Weapon Balancing ----- OR ------ Heavy Racial Variants A Scout Buff --------------- OR ------ Scout Racial Variants New Weapons ----------- OR ------ New Game Modes Rendering Fixes--------- OR ------ Racial Vehicles Racial Suits/Vehicles ---- OR ------ PVE What is the number one thing that you want to have happen first if it required a delay to everything else? What would make you happier playing this game or would get you to return? This should have been a ranking system not an either or type of thing. Like: Rank the following items from one to ten, with one representing the top priority and ten representing lowest priority: Weapon Balancing A Scout Buff New Weapons Rendering Fixes Racial Vehicles Racial Suits Variants New Game Modes PVE Core mechanics Player trading This would be the best way to go.
Eyemakerwet R 0 N 1 N 101	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:11:00 - [18] - Quote Would u rather have cheeto fingers for the rest of ur life or fart popcorn for the rest of ur life?
Meeko Fent DUST University Ivy League 1169	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:21:00 - [19] - Quote Left all the way.


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