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Jason Pearson Animus Securities 3031	Posted - 2013.10.14 12:41:00 - [1] - Quote Now, I'm not a big lover of Battlefield, actually I'm not a big lover of many FPS games but I decided to try Battlefield 4 and like DUST, I play Tanker. So for the first match I decided to get used to the controls, switching weapons, understanding why I was getting a threat warning and what not and died a few times just getting used to everything. I went 16/4 that game. The next few games were quite entertaining for myself, 16-20/0-3, even with C4 being able to one shot me, even with a single rocket launcher being able to take off 25% of my HP, I found myself being challenged and being entertained greatly, the ability to switch between weaponry on the tank was great and I was able to pull back and repair myself after a push against an objective. Want to know the best bit though? It didn't cost me any time or effort to get the tank, I could get in one and roll off, no care in the world about the blue dot sitting in my vehicle because if we died, we could get another one. In DUST, the main thing for a Tanker is staying alive and saving money, we become selfish and we have less fun due to the fact we have to watch everything we're doing, and if you do it a lot it can get quite "stressful", but in BF4? I could push up with my team and I wasn't hindered in any way.. I actually rolled with a friendly squad, with them pushing up and me providing covering fire, it felt brilliant. Tank v Tank is just fast enough, it takes about four shots from an AP round to destroy a tank, so battles can be over quickly, but it appears those with even the slightest tactical sense can drag out a battle, and because Engineers can repair you, you can fall back for a moment and come back swinging. That's another thing, Engineers being able to repair you is wonderful, not only does your tank rep itself, but Engineers can do it even faster meaning I actually want to be around other players. Tankers, if you get a chance, go try BF4 Beta just to play around in a Tank, I'm pretty sure the stuff you've been doing in DUST would greatly aid you (and your KDR) as if you utilize the similar caution you use in DUST, you win, a lot. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here!
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 3631	Posted - 2013.10.14 12:47:00 - [2] - Quote the flying is pretty good too, i'm in love with the little bird's handling, feels so responsive.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 768	Posted - 2013.10.14 12:51:00 - [3] - Quote I've played BF3, tank are almost the same of your description, the real problem in Dust is that tanks (all vehicles) cost too much, they should cut the price and find a way to prevent us to call our vehicles for other players.
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 197	Posted - 2013.10.14 12:53:00 - [4] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Now, I'm not a big lover of Battlefield, actually I'm not a big lover of many FPS games but I decided to try Battlefield 4 and like DUST, I play Tanker. So for the first match I decided to get used to the controls, switching weapons, understanding why I was getting a threat warning and what not and died a few times just getting used to everything. I went 16/4 that game. The next few games were quite entertaining for myself, 16-20/0-3, even with C4 being able to one shot me, even with a single rocket launcher being able to take off 25% of my HP, I found myself being challenged and being entertained greatly, the ability to switch between weaponry on the tank was great and I was able to pull back and repair myself after a push against an objective. Want to know the best bit though? It didn't cost me any time or effort to get the tank, I could get in one and roll off, no care in the world about the blue dot sitting in my vehicle because if we died, we could get another one. In DUST, the main thing for a Tanker is staying alive and saving money, we become selfish and we have less fun due to the fact we have to watch everything we're doing, and if you do it a lot it can get quite "stressful", but in BF4? I could push up with my team and I wasn't hindered in any way.. I actually rolled with a friendly squad, with them pushing up and me providing covering fire, it felt brilliant. Tank v Tank is just fast enough, it takes about four shots from an AP round to destroy a tank, so battles can be over quickly, but it appears those with even the slightest tactical sense can drag out a battle, and because Engineers can repair you, you can fall back for a moment and come back swinging. That's another thing, Engineers being able to repair you is wonderful, not only does your tank rep itself, but Engineers can do it even faster meaning I actually want to be around other players. Tankers, if you get a chance, go try BF4 Beta just to play around in a Tank, I'm pretty sure the stuff you've been doing in DUST would greatly aid you (and your KDR) as if you utilize the similar caution you use in DUST, you win, a lot. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! Glad you tried out Battlefield
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 583	Posted - 2013.10.14 13:00:00 - [5] - Quote gbghg wrote: the flying is pretty good too, i'm in love with the little bird's handling, feels so responsive. i suck at flying that thing, crashed into the skyscraper but i do love the tanks
2100 Angels The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 291	Posted - 2013.10.14 13:08:00 - [6] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Now, I'm not a big lover of Battlefield, actually I'm not a big lover of many FPS games but I decided to try Battlefield 4 and like DUST, I play Tanker. So for the first match I decided to get used to the controls, switching weapons, understanding why I was getting a threat warning and what not and died a few times just getting used to everything. I went 16/4 that game. The next few games were quite entertaining for myself, 16-20/0-3, even with C4 being able to one shot me, even with a single rocket launcher being able to take off 25% of my HP, I found myself being challenged and being entertained greatly, the ability to switch between weaponry on the tank was great and I was able to pull back and repair myself after a push against an objective. Want to know the best bit though? It didn't cost me any time or effort to get the tank, I could get in one and roll off, no care in the world about the blue dot sitting in my vehicle because if we died, we could get another one. In DUST, the main thing for a Tanker is staying alive and saving money, we become selfish and we have less fun due to the fact we have to watch everything we're doing, and if you do it a lot it can get quite "stressful", but in BF4? I could push up with my team and I wasn't hindered in any way.. I actually rolled with a friendly squad, with them pushing up and me providing covering fire, it felt brilliant. Tank v Tank is just fast enough, it takes about four shots from an AP round to destroy a tank, so battles can be over quickly, but it appears those with even the slightest tactical sense can drag out a battle, and because Engineers can repair you, you can fall back for a moment and come back swinging. That's another thing, Engineers being able to repair you is wonderful, not only does your tank rep itself, but Engineers can do it even faster meaning I actually want to be around other players. Tankers, if you get a chance, go try BF4 Beta just to play around in a Tank, I'm pretty sure the stuff you've been doing in DUST would greatly aid you (and your KDR) as if you utilize the similar caution you use in DUST, you win, a lot. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! Literally every downside you just listed about tanking in dust, is what makes dust, dust. Don't want to earn your way to a tank? this game is not for you. Don't want to worry about your vehicle loss having consequences? This game is not for you. While I'm not about to say vehicles in this game are perfect, I find it discouraging that I've seen you lobby quite heavily for changes in tanking on the forums over the past few months, and If these two main principles are what you're essentially lobbying against, please just go and play another game. I for one don't want this game watered down to the no consequence pick-up-and-play game you seem to have enjoyed so much. There are plenty of games like that, and I do enjoy playing them from time to time, but variety is the spice of life and I would draw no satisfaction in having all fps games with their own flavour of vanilla.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4323	Posted - 2013.10.14 13:09:00 - [7] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Now, I'm not a big lover of Battlefield, actually I'm not a big lover of many FPS games but I decided to try Battlefield 4 and like DUST, I play Tanker. So for the first match I decided to get used to the controls, switching weapons, understanding why I was getting a threat warning and what not and died a few times just getting used to everything. I went 16/4 that game. The next few games were quite entertaining for myself, 16-20/0-3, even with C4 being able to one shot me, even with a single rocket launcher being able to take off 25% of my HP, I found myself being challenged and being entertained greatly, the ability to switch between weaponry on the tank was great and I was able to pull back and repair myself after a push against an objective. Want to know the best bit though? It didn't cost me any time or effort to get the tank, I could get in one and roll off, no care in the world about the blue dot sitting in my vehicle because if we died, we could get another one. In DUST, the main thing for a Tanker is staying alive and saving money, we become selfish and we have less fun due to the fact we have to watch everything we're doing, and if you do it a lot it can get quite "stressful", but in BF4? I could push up with my team and I wasn't hindered in any way.. I actually rolled with a friendly squad, with them pushing up and me providing covering fire, it felt brilliant. Tank v Tank is just fast enough, it takes about four shots from an AP round to destroy a tank, so battles can be over quickly, but it appears those with even the slightest tactical sense can drag out a battle, and because Engineers can repair you, you can fall back for a moment and come back swinging. That's another thing, Engineers being able to repair you is wonderful, not only does your tank rep itself, but Engineers can do it even faster meaning I actually want to be around other players. Tankers, if you get a chance, go try BF4 Beta just to play around in a Tank, I'm pretty sure the stuff you've been doing in DUST would greatly aid you (and your KDR) as if you utilize the similar caution you use in DUST, you win, a lot. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! BF has always done vehicles well its one thing that makes that game special agree with u on ur pts idk if ill get BF4 on PS4 tho :(
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles 3808	Posted - 2013.10.14 13:13:00 - [8] - Quote ook I got to ask how do you get a helicopter if after the first spawn some one else got it? ive been trying to find that pad ?
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 675	Posted - 2013.10.14 13:13:00 - [9] - Quote So, what you're saying is that tanks in DUST are too expensive? Petition for a 75% decrease in price of all vehicles, vehicle modules, and vehicle weapons.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Robbing The Hood Public Disorder. 350	Posted - 2013.10.14 13:15:00 - [10] - Quote TanksmuahahahhahafunmuahahahahhlooooooooooooolinmuhahahahahaBattlefield.

Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1352	Posted - 2013.10.14 13:24:00 - [11] - Quote BF3 vehicles were good at the start - then they got nerfed hard because like DUST the infantry cried and wouldnt use teamwork yet the majority of pilots did use teamwork also like in DUST So BF4, vehicles are back to being good, my problem is the infantry will cry once again and nerf them in some way so in 3months time they are ******* awful to use and nothing but a coffin just like in DUST Its an EA game, i like BF4, 32v32 will be good on PS4 i just dont know if i will bother with it since i like vehicles in it and they always get nerfed because tryhards cant kill it solo or with a AR
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 439	Posted - 2013.10.14 13:34:00 - [12] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Jason Pearson wrote: Now, I'm not a big lover of Battlefield, actually I'm not a big lover of many FPS games but I decided to try Battlefield 4 and like DUST, I play Tanker. So for the first match I decided to get used to the controls, switching weapons, understanding why I was getting a threat warning and what not and died a few times just getting used to everything. I went 16/4 that game. The next few games were quite entertaining for myself, 16-20/0-3, even with C4 being able to one shot me, even with a single rocket launcher being able to take off 25% of my HP, I found myself being challenged and being entertained greatly, the ability to switch between weaponry on the tank was great and I was able to pull back and repair myself after a push against an objective. Want to know the best bit though? It didn't cost me any time or effort to get the tank, I could get in one and roll off, no care in the world about the blue dot sitting in my vehicle because if we died, we could get another one. In DUST, the main thing for a Tanker is staying alive and saving money, we become selfish and we have less fun due to the fact we have to watch everything we're doing, and if you do it a lot it can get quite "stressful", but in BF4? I could push up with my team and I wasn't hindered in any way.. I actually rolled with a friendly squad, with them pushing up and me providing covering fire, it felt brilliant. Tank v Tank is just fast enough, it takes about four shots from an AP round to destroy a tank, so battles can be over quickly, but it appears those with even the slightest tactical sense can drag out a battle, and because Engineers can repair you, you can fall back for a moment and come back swinging. That's another thing, Engineers being able to repair you is wonderful, not only does your tank rep itself, but Engineers can do it even faster meaning I actually want to be around other players. Tankers, if you get a chance, go try BF4 Beta just to play around in a Tank, I'm pretty sure the stuff you've been doing in DUST would greatly aid you (and your KDR) as if you utilize the similar caution you use in DUST, you win, a lot. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! BF has always done vehicles well its one thing that makes that game special agree with u on ur pts idk if ill get BF4 on PS4 tho :( Welcome to the fold Jason. Like Mavado said, BF does vehicles very well. (Although blowing them up was my favorite thing to do in BF3. I once tea bagged a chopper after downing it with an rpg) Glad you enjoyed BF4 beta and hope to see you there. Second point. You will be missed nummies on BF4 on PS4 if you do not get it. It was always a nice test to go onto the SyN server. If you do not get it for PS4 hopefully you will be getting it for PC.
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Murder Cakes Of Doom 1014	Posted - 2013.10.14 13:42:00 - [13] - Quote battlefront does vehicles the best. either a speed glass cannon or a slow hulk. or super speed low firepower high speed. <3 battlefront vehicles.
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 208	Posted - 2013.10.14 13:58:00 - [14] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Now, I'm not a big lover of Battlefield, actually I'm not a big lover of many FPS games but I decided to try Battlefield 4 and like DUST, I play Tanker. So for the first match I decided to get used to the controls, switching weapons, understanding why I was getting a threat warning and what not and died a few times just getting used to everything. I went 16/4 that game. The next few games were quite entertaining for myself, 16-20/0-3, even with C4 being able to one shot me, even with a single rocket launcher being able to take off 25% of my HP, I found myself being challenged and being entertained greatly, the ability to switch between weaponry on the tank was great and I was able to pull back and repair myself after a push against an objective. Want to know the best bit though? It didn't cost me any time or effort to get the tank, I could get in one and roll off, no care in the world about the blue dot sitting in my vehicle because if we died, we could get another one. In DUST, the main thing for a Tanker is staying alive and saving money, we become selfish and we have less fun due to the fact we have to watch everything we're doing, and if you do it a lot it can get quite "stressful", but in BF4? I could push up with my team and I wasn't hindered in any way.. I actually rolled with a friendly squad, with them pushing up and me providing covering fire, it felt brilliant. Tank v Tank is just fast enough, it takes about four shots from an AP round to destroy a tank, so battles can be over quickly, but it appears those with even the slightest tactical sense can drag out a battle, and because Engineers can repair you, you can fall back for a moment and come back swinging. That's another thing, Engineers being able to repair you is wonderful, not only does your tank rep itself, but Engineers can do it even faster meaning I actually want to be around other players. Tankers, if you get a chance, go try BF4 Beta just to play around in a Tank, I'm pretty sure the stuff you've been doing in DUST would greatly aid you (and your KDR) as if you utilize the similar caution you use in DUST, you win, a lot. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! If the player is a bf vet expect to go down in 2 shots...we know where to aim to do critical damage
Harpyja Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 613	Posted - 2013.10.14 14:04:00 - [15] - Quote gbghg wrote: the flying is pretty good too, i'm in love with the little bird's handling, feels so responsive. I tried flying and I crashed almost immediately. Controls were switched a little from BF3 (PC- roll and yaw were switched and gave me trouble). I honestly don't see what's so different in BF4 so I just went back to BF3 where flying attack helicopters was almost intuitive for me.
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 208	Posted - 2013.10.14 14:09:00 - [16] - Quote DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote: Jason Pearson wrote: Now, I'm not a big lover of Battlefield, actually I'm not a big lover of many FPS games but I decided to try Battlefield 4 and like DUST, I play Tanker. So for the first match I decided to get used to the controls, switching weapons, understanding why I was getting a threat warning and what not and died a few times just getting used to everything. I went 16/4 that game. The next few games were quite entertaining for myself, 16-20/0-3, even with C4 being able to one shot me, even with a single rocket launcher being able to take off 25% of my HP, I found myself being challenged and being entertained greatly, the ability to switch between weaponry on the tank was great and I was able to pull back and repair myself after a push against an objective. Want to know the best bit though? It didn't cost me any time or effort to get the tank, I could get in one and roll off, no care in the world about the blue dot sitting in my vehicle because if we died, we could get another one. In DUST, the main thing for a Tanker is staying alive and saving money, we become selfish and we have less fun due to the fact we have to watch everything we're doing, and if you do it a lot it can get quite "stressful", but in BF4? I could push up with my team and I wasn't hindered in any way.. I actually rolled with a friendly squad, with them pushing up and me providing covering fire, it felt brilliant. Tank v Tank is just fast enough, it takes about four shots from an AP round to destroy a tank, so battles can be over quickly, but it appears those with even the slightest tactical sense can drag out a battle, and because Engineers can repair you, you can fall back for a moment and come back swinging. That's another thing, Engineers being able to repair you is wonderful, not only does your tank rep itself, but Engineers can do it even faster meaning I actually want to be around other players. Tankers, if you get a chance, go try BF4 Beta just to play around in a Tank, I'm pretty sure the stuff you've been doing in DUST would greatly aid you (and your KDR) as if you utilize the similar caution you use in DUST, you win, a lot. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! If the player is a bf vet expect to go down in 2 shots...we know where to aim to do critical damage Also that's where having a teammate in the gunner run engineer works good...and if its like bf3 the last unlock for your tank will be 3rd seat for a designated lock on dude like recon but in your tank so your guided shell will now be able to lock onto air/sea vehicles..incase you care
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1131	Posted - 2013.10.14 14:22:00 - [17] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: TanksmuahahahhahafunmuahahahahhlooooooooooooolinmuhahahahahaBattlefield. Hi. LV5 PROTO SWARM LAUNCHER HERE. (with complex damage mods) What's that about dust tanks? Lower the price on them. I have always said that. Now about BF4. I'll be there on ps4, and so will my clan. can't believe they made you leader I didn't agree with it. And refused to lead old clan. So new clan, but with same peeps except new leader for now. for now? Till I can pass the damn thing back to the old one. I'm a warrior. and I'm honest enough to say that I will make for a poor king.
RedZer0 MK1 Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 72	Posted - 2013.10.14 14:32:00 - [18] - Quote Tanking in BF is great. The anti air is super fun too(from bf3, not in beta)
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1131	Posted - 2013.10.14 14:38:00 - [19] - Quote We have two dedicated tankers in my clan. both use av a swell. they ride same tank and switch off and on. one protecting the tank from pesky C4 loyalist like me. the twins yeah. those two lasses will teach any guy how to survive in a tank in BF. They have been tanking in BF games for a long time. Tanks in BF are not so easy as people here will seem to think. Do many of them die fast? yup. But how many infantry will die before that damn tank goes down? you thought of that? girls scored 7 kills before there tank got destroyed for the first time. And the girls themselves didn't die! lol Tanks in BF are dangerous. But they don't rule the field. the way it should be.
Pent'noir Algintal Core Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2013.10.14 14:49:00 - [20] - Quote The only reason why I find killing tanks fun is because it cost someone time and isk to get. I took away their shinny. Just like when you kill a full proto infantry and make sure they can never be revived, but better because that tank cost even more. It's a game aspect that I enjoy.

DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 208	Posted - 2013.10.14 15:02:00 - [21] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: ook I got to ask how do you get a helicopter if after the first spawn some one else got it? ive been trying to find that pad ? Taste you get on dust tomorrow if so squad with me and ill tell you all the secrets to straight shredding the other team
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 208	Posted - 2013.10.14 15:04:00 - [22] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: BF3 vehicles were good at the start - then they got nerfed hard because like DUST the infantry cried and wouldnt use teamwork yet the majority of pilots did use teamwork also like in DUST So BF4, vehicles are back to being good, my problem is the infantry will cry once again and nerf them in some way so in 3months time they are ******* awful to use and nothing but a coffin just like in DUST Its an EA game, i like BF4, 32v32 will be good on PS4 i just dont know if i will bother with it since i like vehicles in it and they always get nerfed because tryhards cant kill it solo or with a AR Play bf3 in the last year? Play smart use your squad you take on the tanks and they fend off the infantry and you can't lose
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1355	Posted - 2013.10.14 15:10:00 - [23] - Quote DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: BF3 vehicles were good at the start - then they got nerfed hard because like DUST the infantry cried and wouldnt use teamwork yet the majority of pilots did use teamwork also like in DUST So BF4, vehicles are back to being good, my problem is the infantry will cry once again and nerf them in some way so in 3months time they are ******* awful to use and nothing but a coffin just like in DUST Its an EA game, i like BF4, 32v32 will be good on PS4 i just dont know if i will bother with it since i like vehicles in it and they always get nerfed because tryhards cant kill it solo or with a AR Play bf3 in the last year? Play smart use your squad you take on the tanks and they fend off the infantry and you can't lose I knock a tank nearly down to 50% with an RPG from other side of the road, and its been done to me As an engy i can solo a tank and its easy, even if i get hit with the cannon i survive with like 10% health Half the time tho i can pull 30-0 with a gunner but it takes 2 of us, but do it in a private server you get booted, do it in an EA server and you win the game quickly Currently in BF4 you cant really solo a tank, it normally takes 2 of you or 2 C4 if you let them get close but gunner says no Also ammo limits on the tank limit the driver, you engage when you have 1 sheel left its not going to go down well
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 208	Posted - 2013.10.14 15:15:00 - [24] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: BF3 vehicles were good at the start - then they got nerfed hard because like DUST the infantry cried and wouldnt use teamwork yet the majority of pilots did use teamwork also like in DUST So BF4, vehicles are back to being good, my problem is the infantry will cry once again and nerf them in some way so in 3months time they are ******* awful to use and nothing but a coffin just like in DUST Its an EA game, i like BF4, 32v32 will be good on PS4 i just dont know if i will bother with it since i like vehicles in it and they always get nerfed because tryhards cant kill it solo or with a AR Play bf3 in the last year? Play smart use your squad you take on the tanks and they fend off the infantry and you can't lose I knock a tank nearly down to 50% with an RPG from other side of the road, and its been done to me As an engy i can solo a tank and its easy, even if i get hit with the cannon i survive with like 10% health Half the time tho i can pull 30-0 with a gunner but it takes 2 of us, but do it in a private server you get booted, do it in an EA server and you win the game quickly Currently in BF4 you cant really solo a tank, it normally takes 2 of you or 2 C4 if you let them get close but gunner says no Also ammo limits on the tank limit the driver, you engage when you have 1 sheel left its not going to go down well I agree though I've never lost a tank due to 1guy with an rpg in bf3 but in bf4 its about location..hit the sweet spot and you do 75+ damage and leave it critical and can't move
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1356	Posted - 2013.10.14 15:23:00 - [25] - Quote DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: BF3 vehicles were good at the start - then they got nerfed hard because like DUST the infantry cried and wouldnt use teamwork yet the majority of pilots did use teamwork also like in DUST So BF4, vehicles are back to being good, my problem is the infantry will cry once again and nerf them in some way so in 3months time they are ******* awful to use and nothing but a coffin just like in DUST Its an EA game, i like BF4, 32v32 will be good on PS4 i just dont know if i will bother with it since i like vehicles in it and they always get nerfed because tryhards cant kill it solo or with a AR Play bf3 in the last year? Play smart use your squad you take on the tanks and they fend off the infantry and you can't lose I knock a tank nearly down to 50% with an RPG from other side of the road, and its been done to me As an engy i can solo a tank and its easy, even if i get hit with the cannon i survive with like 10% health Half the time tho i can pull 30-0 with a gunner but it takes 2 of us, but do it in a private server you get booted, do it in an EA server and you win the game quickly Currently in BF4 you cant really solo a tank, it normally takes 2 of you or 2 C4 if you let them get close but gunner says no Also ammo limits on the tank limit the driver, you engage when you have 1 sheel left its not going to go down well I agree though I've never lost a tank due to 1guy with an rpg in bf3 but in bf4 its about location..hit the sweet spot and you do 75+ damage and leave it critical and can't move Engine shot generally does the most damage I do like that you can immobile them even if they have 75% health with a crit shot, it wont kill it but it gives you a better chance to kill it where as if you hit the armor it can bounce off and you be fine so aiming is a must this time around, in BF3 i didnt have to aim i just spammed a shot whenever
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 208	Posted - 2013.10.14 15:28:00 - [26] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: BF3 vehicles were good at the start - then they got nerfed hard because like DUST the infantry cried and wouldnt use teamwork yet the majority of pilots did use teamwork also like in DUST So BF4, vehicles are back to being good, my problem is the infantry will cry once again and nerf them in some way so in 3months time they are ******* awful to use and nothing but a coffin just like in DUST Its an EA game, i like BF4, 32v32 will be good on PS4 i just dont know if i will bother with it since i like vehicles in it and they always get nerfed because tryhards cant kill it solo or with a AR Play bf3 in the last year? Play smart use your squad you take on the tanks and they fend off the infantry and you can't lose I knock a tank nearly down to 50% with an RPG from other side of the road, and its been done to me As an engy i can solo a tank and its easy, even if i get hit with the cannon i survive with like 10% health Half the time tho i can pull 30-0 with a gunner but it takes 2 of us, but do it in a private server you get booted, do it in an EA server and you win the game quickly Currently in BF4 you cant really solo a tank, it normally takes 2 of you or 2 C4 if you let them get close but gunner says no Also ammo limits on the tank limit the driver, you engage when you have 1 sheel left its not going to go down well I agree though I've never lost a tank due to 1guy with an rpg in bf3 but in bf4 its about location..hit the sweet spot and you do 75+ damage and leave it critical and can't move Engine shot generally does the most damage I do like that you can immobile them even if they have 75% health with a crit shot, it wont kill it but it gives you a better chance to kill it where as if you hit the armor it can bounce off and you be fine so aiming is a must this time around, in BF3 i didnt have to aim i just spammed a shot whenever I agree most my shots have to be pintpoint accurate for the full 75 otherwise its 60 or 50 idr which its not easy to do even up close but I'd say its a fair thing to do weather its a good or lucky shot they get rewarded for it..even when I'm in my tank and that happends I know I'm dead but its not upsetting its just good business
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 208	Posted - 2013.10.14 15:50:00 - [27] - Quote I also like the counters tanks have too..IR smoke, guided shells or switch that out for what is it a 7.62 gun? All for the driver and the gunner can use a proxy scanner or watev they really thought it out for vehicles
demonkiller 12 G.U.T.Z 274	Posted - 2013.10.14 15:59:00 - [28] - Quote dear god the gun mechanics are amazing and the aim assist is just right, and that 50 cal pickup on domination is so satisfying OHK anyone at any range then seeing their bodies go flying backwards from the bullet impact someone should add me on PSN so we can play - Ticonus i see Jenza on bf4 all the time but never in an actual match
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 208	Posted - 2013.10.14 16:02:00 - [29] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: dear god the gun mechanics are amazing and the aim assist is just right, and that 50 cal pickup on domination is so satisfying OHK anyone at any range then seeing their bodies go flying backwards from the bullet impact someone should add me on PSN so we can play - Ticonus i see Jenza on bf4 all the time but never in an actual match I take it from b to the top of the building above a the one next to the one with the elevator that way you don't get killed from behind
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1201	Posted - 2013.10.14 16:04:00 - [30] - Quote Free tanks = Tank SpamFest Same with Dropships People would use them as kamikaze

DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 208	Posted - 2013.10.14 16:49:00 - [31] - Quote Anarchide wrote: Free tanks = Tank SpamFest Same with Dropships People would use them as kamikaze Got to realize its up to your team...blow up a tank and it takes a while to respawn and you can lay down land mines that onky takes 2 to blow up a tank...they thought this through its all on your team if they don't want to support the team then yeah helis jets tanks will run over your team but that's how it should be...its a team game and the team working together is the one that dominates
Dagger-Two Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords 98	Posted - 2013.10.14 18:01:00 - [32] - Quote Any game where one person can drive a tank and shoot the gun is doing it wrong. You want good tank battles? Go play ARMA 3
Alldin Kan TeamPlayers EoN. 689	Posted - 2013.10.14 18:02:00 - [33] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Now, I'm not a big lover of Battlefield, actually I'm not a big lover of many FPS games but I decided to try Battlefield 4 and like DUST, I play Tanker. So for the first match I decided to get used to the controls, switching weapons, understanding why I was getting a threat warning and what not and died a few times just getting used to everything. I went 16/4 that game. The next few games were quite entertaining for myself, 16-20/0-3, even with C4 being able to one shot me, even with a single rocket launcher being able to take off 25% of my HP, I found myself being challenged and being entertained greatly, the ability to switch between weaponry on the tank was great and I was able to pull back and repair myself after a push against an objective. Want to know the best bit though? It didn't cost me any time or effort to get the tank, I could get in one and roll off, no care in the world about the blue dot sitting in my vehicle because if we died, we could get another one. In DUST, the main thing for a Tanker is staying alive and saving money, we become selfish and we have less fun due to the fact we have to watch everything we're doing, and if you do it a lot it can get quite "stressful", but in BF4? I could push up with my team and I wasn't hindered in any way.. I actually rolled with a friendly squad, with them pushing up and me providing covering fire, it felt brilliant. Tank v Tank is just fast enough, it takes about four shots from an AP round to destroy a tank, so battles can be over quickly, but it appears those with even the slightest tactical sense can drag out a battle, and because Engineers can repair you, you can fall back for a moment and come back swinging. That's another thing, Engineers being able to repair you is wonderful, not only does your tank rep itself, but Engineers can do it even faster meaning I actually want to be around other players. Tankers, if you get a chance, go try BF4 Beta just to play around in a Tank, I'm pretty sure the stuff you've been doing in DUST would greatly aid you (and your KDR) as if you utilize the similar caution you use in DUST, you win, a lot. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! I think I'll download it after watching this.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 578	Posted - 2013.10.14 18:26:00 - [34] - Quote 2100 Angels wrote: Jason Pearson wrote: Now, I'm not a big lover of Battlefield, actually I'm not a big lover of many FPS games but I decided to try Battlefield 4 and like DUST, I play Tanker. So for the first match I decided to get used to the controls, switching weapons, understanding why I was getting a threat warning and what not and died a few times just getting used to everything. I went 16/4 that game. The next few games were quite entertaining for myself, 16-20/0-3, even with C4 being able to one shot me, even with a single rocket launcher being able to take off 25% of my HP, I found myself being challenged and being entertained greatly, the ability to switch between weaponry on the tank was great and I was able to pull back and repair myself after a push against an objective. Want to know the best bit though? It didn't cost me any time or effort to get the tank, I could get in one and roll off, no care in the world about the blue dot sitting in my vehicle because if we died, we could get another one. In DUST, the main thing for a Tanker is staying alive and saving money, we become selfish and we have less fun due to the fact we have to watch everything we're doing, and if you do it a lot it can get quite "stressful", but in BF4? I could push up with my team and I wasn't hindered in any way.. I actually rolled with a friendly squad, with them pushing up and me providing covering fire, it felt brilliant. Tank v Tank is just fast enough, it takes about four shots from an AP round to destroy a tank, so battles can be over quickly, but it appears those with even the slightest tactical sense can drag out a battle, and because Engineers can repair you, you can fall back for a moment and come back swinging. That's another thing, Engineers being able to repair you is wonderful, not only does your tank rep itself, but Engineers can do it even faster meaning I actually want to be around other players. Tankers, if you get a chance, go try BF4 Beta just to play around in a Tank, I'm pretty sure the stuff you've been doing in DUST would greatly aid you (and your KDR) as if you utilize the similar caution you use in DUST, you win, a lot. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! Literally every downside you just listed about tanking in dust, is what makes dust, dust. Don't want to earn your way to a tank? this game is not for you. Don't want to worry about your vehicle loss having consequences? This game is not for you. While I'm not about to say vehicles in this game are perfect, I find it discouraging that I've seen you lobby quite heavily for changes in tanking on the forums over the past few months, and If these two main principles are what you're essentially lobbying against, please just go and play another game. I for one don't want this game watered down to the no consequence pick-up-and-play game you seem to have enjoyed so much. There are plenty of games like that, and I do enjoy playing them from time to time, but variety is the spice of life and I would draw no satisfaction in having all fps games with their own flavour of vanilla. Sounds like ppl in EVE. This is why EVE only ever keeps a core amount of players esp. for the combat and why DUST, because it is only the combat will die. CCP can't afford to think this way.
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 116	Posted - 2013.10.14 18:47:00 - [35] - Quote Nice tanks fully fitted should cost around 300K ISK - but they should be a tiny bit vulnerable to small-arms fire near their rear waste-heat vents.
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 182	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:19:00 - [36] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Now, I'm not a big lover of Battlefield, actually I'm not a big lover of many FPS games but I decided to try Battlefield 4 and like DUST, I play Tanker. So for the first match I decided to get used to the controls, switching weapons, understanding why I was getting a threat warning and what not and died a few times just getting used to everything. I went 16/4 that game. The next few games were quite entertaining for myself, 16-20/0-3, even with C4 being able to one shot me, even with a single rocket launcher being able to take off 25% of my HP, I found myself being challenged and being entertained greatly, the ability to switch between weaponry on the tank was great and I was able to pull back and repair myself after a push against an objective. Want to know the best bit though? It didn't cost me any time or effort to get the tank, I could get in one and roll off, no care in the world about the blue dot sitting in my vehicle because if we died, we could get another one. In DUST, the main thing for a Tanker is staying alive and saving money, we become selfish and we have less fun due to the fact we have to watch everything we're doing, and if you do it a lot it can get quite "stressful", but in BF4? I could push up with my team and I wasn't hindered in any way.. I actually rolled with a friendly squad, with them pushing up and me providing covering fire, it felt brilliant. Tank v Tank is just fast enough, it takes about four shots from an AP round to destroy a tank, so battles can be over quickly, but it appears those with even the slightest tactical sense can drag out a battle, and because Engineers can repair you, you can fall back for a moment and come back swinging. That's another thing, Engineers being able to repair you is wonderful, not only does your tank rep itself, but Engineers can do it even faster meaning I actually want to be around other players. Tankers, if you get a chance, go try BF4 Beta just to play around in a Tank, I'm pretty sure the stuff you've been doing in DUST would greatly aid you (and your KDR) as if you utilize the similar caution you use in DUST, you win, a lot. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! Also notice, the speed of your tank is amazing, you can actually go faster than infantry, also, you can actually use a tank for transport because its fast. In dust, tanks are literally 100 ton machines with 200 horsepower, 300 torque and less armor than a smart car. Also, the Av is balanced. You have to reload after every RPG shot and with fast tanks, it also gives you a chance to get away.
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 412	Posted - 2013.10.16 18:45:00 - [37] - Quote the funny thing about bf4 tanks is the effectiveness of c4.. only thing need to kill them is c4.. i have started to grab that truck stick some c4 onto the front grill equip the detonator. and drive into an enemy tank or group jump out press button and get several kills.. sad thing is it only works if u manage to dodge the tank rounds... now for the rpg spam fest there on bf4. only thing to worry about is ppl who love c4... in dust. av is extremely powerful. a proto breach forge can pretty much ohk anything with the right fitting. the thing about bf4 tanks is they heal over time as well.. dust tanks dont u need a repper... which is to be expected as it is dust 514. all in all ive been more effective with the bf4 tank than with my dust tank.. mostly because ppl will run up towards me trying to blow me up with c4.. with the bf4 tanks in general u only die if u get surrounded so u can be more aggressive with the tank
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 3663	Posted - 2013.10.16 19:45:00 - [38] - Quote Harpyja wrote: gbghg wrote: the flying is pretty good too, i'm in love with the little bird's handling, feels so responsive. I tried flying and I crashed almost immediately. Controls were switched a little from BF3 (PC- roll and yaw were switched and gave me trouble). I honestly don't see what's so different in BF4 so I just went back to BF3 where flying attack helicopters was almost intuitive for me. handling feels much more responsive, or maybe i've been playing too much dust and not enough bf3 before jumping on the beta. and yeah the new control scheme is garbage, i just switched the controls back to what i use for dust and bf3. i wish dropships handled like that in dust.
XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles 4743	Posted - 2013.10.16 20:50:00 - [39] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Now, I'm not a big lover of Battlefield, actually I'm not a big lover of many FPS games but I decided to try Battlefield 4 and like DUST, I play Tanker. So for the first match I decided to get used to the controls, switching weapons, understanding why I was getting a threat warning and what not and died a few times just getting used to everything. I went 16/4 that game. The next few games were quite entertaining for myself, 16-20/0-3, even with C4 being able to one shot me, even with a single rocket launcher being able to take off 25% of my HP, I found myself being challenged and being entertained greatly, the ability to switch between weaponry on the tank was great and I was able to pull back and repair myself after a push against an objective. Want to know the best bit though? It didn't cost me any time or effort to get the tank, I could get in one and roll off, no care in the world about the blue dot sitting in my vehicle because if we died, we could get another one. In DUST, the main thing for a Tanker is staying alive and saving money, we become selfish and we have less fun due to the fact we have to watch everything we're doing, and if you do it a lot it can get quite "stressful", but in BF4? I could push up with my team and I wasn't hindered in any way.. I actually rolled with a friendly squad, with them pushing up and me providing covering fire, it felt brilliant. Tank v Tank is just fast enough, it takes about four shots from an AP round to destroy a tank, so battles can be over quickly, but it appears those with even the slightest tactical sense can drag out a battle, and because Engineers can repair you, you can fall back for a moment and come back swinging. That's another thing, Engineers being able to repair you is wonderful, not only does your tank rep itself, but Engineers can do it even faster meaning I actually want to be around other players. Tankers, if you get a chance, go try BF4 Beta just to play around in a Tank, I'm pretty sure the stuff you've been doing in DUST would greatly aid you (and your KDR) as if you utilize the similar caution you use in DUST, you win, a lot. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! I can flip tank and I know how to unflip mine :)
AlleyKatPr0 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 45	Posted - 2013.10.17 00:47:00 - [40] - Quote 5hitbucket reporting in. Yeah. BF4 is a lot of fun, but omf...G does the sway of the characters running give me a headache and stomach ache. It's just too damn much sway from L to R. Feel like I'm wading through treacle, not running for my life. Other gripes: -Icon cluster fuckin' up the screen. -Characters get stuck on 6 inch steps and cant figure out how to step over them; result: space bar spamming. -Helicopters are not as maneuverable as they need to be for the environment; result: boring moves versus epic weaving and 180 tail-flips of d00m. -characters look awesome close up - but any farther than 15 feet, they blend into specs of grey or black; result: 'is that an enemy' moments resulting in spamming the Q button more than BF3. -netcode needs a lot more work before release...too many times the 300 frames of animation it takes for an enemy to jump over something are skipped, making aiming a nightmare. -Game feels slow in general terms -squad spawn is tiresome for either: spawn-die-spawn-die OR kill team, turn, die to recently spawned squadder nanoseconds after you turned -Scale feels wrong: targets/objects you think are 800 metres away are actually 100 metres away. -The tanks pivot too much/too easily -The jeeps don't have any weight to them, flying through the air with the smallest bump in the road. -ADS'ing is too high or too low on some weapons, requiring re-alignment after lining up a shot up or down - crosshair annoyance and bullet waste -Microphone is essential to succeed: unless competing against total idiots with no comprehension of basic FPS mechanics or objective team-based gaming. There's more but that'll do.



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