DUST Search - Think of tanks like this...

DJINN leukoplast wrote:

Let's just ignore vehicles for this example, and focus on infantry vs infantry in a parallel universe.

Imagine this:

In this universe, suits need to be taken out with very specific weapons. No exception. If you don't have the right weapon to take out that suit, you are absolutely screwed. They can stand there and take it all night long while you dish it out.

Example:

- Player A has weapons designed to take out ADV suits, but ADV suits only. If militia/STD or proto attack this player, the player is defenseless. Nothing they do will harm a militia/STD or proto suit in any way worth a damn.

- Player B has weapons designed to take out militia/STD, but is completely defenseless against ADV and proto suits.

- Player C has weapons designed to take out proto suits, but is absolutely helpless against ADV and militia/STD suits.

So would this be balanced, or completely unbalanced and ridiculous? Cause this is almost exactly what anti-vehicle and anti-infantry players have to deal with.

Anti-vehicle - Only good against vehciles, vulnerable vs infantry and vehicles.
Anti-infantry- Only good against infantry, vulnerable vs vehicles and infantry.

And here's the vehicle players setup.

Anti-infantry & vehicle - Vulnerable only by AV players and some vehicles, but excellent against all vehicles and all infantry.

This is wrong and needs to change. Vehicles have way too much of an advantage. They should have to make hard choices like infantry players do.

Either:

1. Vehicles only good against other vehicles, but worthless against infantry
2. Vehicles only good against infantry, defenseless to other vehicles.

Or:

Infantry players need dedicated AV on all suits. Which means separate PG/CPU and slots for AV specific weaponry, this way infantry can carry both and be equally effective against vehicles and infantry. However the extra PG/CPU and slots can only be used for AV weapons (that way they can't be abused).


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IrishWebster Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 62	Posted - 2013.10.14 18:42:00 - [1] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: Let's just ignore vehicles for this example, and focus on infantry vs infantry in a parallel universe. Imagine this: In this universe, suits need to be taken out with very specific weapons. No exception. If you don't have the right weapon to take out that suit, you are absolutely screwed. They can stand there and take it all night long while you dish it out. Example: - Player A has weapons designed to take out ADV suits, but ADV suits only. If militia/STD or proto attack this player, the player is defenseless. Nothing they do will harm a militia/STD or proto suit in any way worth a damn. - Player B has weapons designed to take out militia/STD, but is completely defenseless against ADV and proto suits. - Player C has weapons designed to take out proto suits, but is absolutely helpless against ADV and militia/STD suits. So would this be balanced, or completely unbalanced and ridiculous? Cause this is almost exactly what anti-vehicle and anti-infantry players have to deal with. Anti-vehicle - Only good against vehciles, vulnerable vs infantry and vehicles. Anti-infantry- Only good against infantry, vulnerable vs vehicles and infantry. And here's the vehicle players setup. Anti-infantry & vehicle - Vulnerable only by AV players and some vehicles, but excellent against all vehicles and all infantry. This is wrong and needs to change. Vehicles have way too much of an advantage. They should have to make hard choices like infantry players do. Either: 1. Vehicles only good against other vehicles, but worthless against infantry 2. Vehicles only good against infantry, defenseless to other vehicles. Or: Infantry players need dedicated AV on all suits. Which means separate PG/CPU and slots for AV specific weaponry, this way infantry can carry both and be equally effective against vehicles and infantry. However the extra PG/CPU and slots can only be used for AV weapons (that way they can't be abused). Um... no. Show me ANY real life parallel to this argument and I'll agree. The point of a vehicle, and thus the enormous amount of SP and ISK spent to gain use of and continue to use a vehicle, is to gain an ADVANTAGE. They cost more than drop suits. They're more skill intensive than drop suits. They're harder to use than drop suits. They're easier to see and draw much more attention than drop suits. They don't only deserve the advantage, but they NEED one. Having a crapload of HP and native resistance to small arms fire only makes sense. After all, it is a TANK. Show me a real life tank that can even be remotely scratched by conventional small arms fire, and I'll submit to this argument. But you won't, and so neither will I.