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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.10.14 02:11:00 -
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I'm willing to pay tens of millions <100 million for the Collector Edition DUST514 codes. Does anyone know of any EVE players looking to establish a trade. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1790
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Posted - 2013.10.14 02:15:00 -
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I don't know much about the exchange rate Eve-side, but you might need more than 100mil. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
724
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Posted - 2013.10.14 02:39:00 -
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Just wait. If it isn't sold within my Alliance, I know someone who will be selling them. Plus, there is already a thread like this :P |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1969
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Posted - 2013.10.14 02:42:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I'm willing to pay tens of millions <100 million for the Collector Edition DUST514 codes. Does anyone know of any EVE players looking to establish a trade.
Good question - I don't know any Eve only players that ordered it though; also you can't transfer ISK to Eve only players. As for the price you are offering - way too low for what you get. There are 3 suits and 3 weapon BPO's after all |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
724
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Posted - 2013.10.14 02:44:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Just wait. If it isn't sold within my Alliance, I know someone who will be selling them. Plus, there is already a thread like this :P BTW I'm planning on being the one in my Alliance that gets it, no matter what I have to do! :D |
Miokai Zahou
Film Actors Guilds
41
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Posted - 2013.10.14 02:47:00 -
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Hmmm if I was going to sell my second set of bpo suits and guns then it will 500 million at the minimum... |
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
196
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Posted - 2013.10.14 03:17:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Just wait. If it isn't sold within my Alliance, I know someone who will be selling them. Plus, there is already a thread like this :P BTW I'm planning on being the one in my Alliance that gets it, no matter what I have to do! :D
Ok, get on your knees. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2957
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Posted - 2013.10.14 03:22:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I'm willing to pay tens of millions <100 million for the Collector Edition DUST514 codes. Does anyone know of any EVE players looking to establish a trade. Bah its costing me 1 Billion to get them at market value, anyone who falls for this is a sucker. |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.10.14 12:48:00 -
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Does anyone know if they will be available on eBay??? |
Sylvana Nightwind
expert intervention Caldari State
524
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Posted - 2013.10.14 13:00:00 -
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Make it hundreds of millions and you might get one ;) |
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.10.14 13:07:00 -
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It'll take too long to raise 500 million by November, I'd rather get them through $$$ If it's an option. But if you were to give me them, I can promise you I'd pay you all the ISK I earn for the next 12 month's till I pay you 1 billion ISK, no lie. |
Big Popa Smurff
Ancient Exiles
816
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Posted - 2013.10.14 13:18:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I'm willing to pay tens of millions <100 million for the Collector Edition DUST514 codes. Does anyone know of any EVE players looking to establish a trade. i have bought the pack, and id let you have the mystery code for 2 billion isk. |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.10.14 13:25:00 -
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I won't be able to raise 2 billion ISK, but if someone were to say put the codes on eBay??? |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2749
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Posted - 2013.10.14 14:02:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I won't be able to raise 2 billion ISK, but if someone were to say put the codes on eBay???
It would be sad if an ebay auction on them went over the cost of the collector's edition that contains them.
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.10.14 14:17:00 -
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I think we all know that no one would pay more than $30 for the militia tier BPO codes. Especially when they could simply buy boosters instead. |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.10.14 14:19:00 -
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$5.00 a BPO X 6 BPOs = $30.00. That sounds reasonable. |
DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
218
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Posted - 2013.10.14 14:20:00 -
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$20 amazon card for the bpo just the heavy and whatever heavy weapons |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
699
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Posted - 2013.10.14 14:21:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I think we all know that no one would pay more than $30 for the militia tier BPO codes. Especially when they could simply buy boosters instead. first if I am not mistaken they are STD level.
and second, they are part of a 149Gé¼ limited collectors edition.
in short: if you want it you will have to pay, alot. they are worth atleast 500m isk if not more considering plex prices. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1970
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Posted - 2013.10.14 14:22:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:$5.00 a BPO X 6 BPOs = $30.00. That sounds reasonable.
5 BPO's = $30 $30 = 1.5 plex 1.5 plex = 750 million ISK
Ergo, 5 BPO's = 750 million ISK
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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1970
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Posted - 2013.10.14 14:24:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I think we all know that no one would pay more than $30 for the militia tier BPO codes. Especially when they could simply buy boosters instead.
As someone else said, these are not militia - they are the specialized suits. We don't have militia Assault suits - we have militia medium frame suits (the basic type). These are clearly not militia. |
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pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
105
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Posted - 2013.10.14 14:24:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I won't be able to raise 2 billion ISK, but if someone were to say put the codes on eBay??? im sure plenty of people will. theres plenty of eve guys who dont play/care about dust, but are smart enough to know putting the codes up for sale on ebay, will help recoup some of the expense of the initial purchase.
to be honest i bet theres more supply then demand on ebay. plenty of people have isk to spend on these, but real money requires real work (just speculating, please dont hurt me)
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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1970
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Posted - 2013.10.14 14:24:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I think we all know that no one would pay more than $30 for the militia tier BPO codes. Especially when they could simply buy boosters instead. first if I am not mistaken they are STD level. and second, they are part of a 149Gé¼ limited collectors edition. in short: if you want it you will have to pay, alot. they are worth atleast 500m isk if not more considering plex prices.
^^ This. See my earlier post which estimates the cost is about 750 million (unless plex prices have changed recently - haven't checked in a couple of months) |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.10.14 14:38:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:$5.00 a BPO X 6 BPOs = $30.00. That sounds reasonable. 5 BPO's = $30 $30 = 1.5 plex 1.5 plex = 750 million ISK Ergo, 5 BPO's = 750 million ISK
So you can keep the Amarr Logi BPO then in that case. |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.10.14 14:44:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I think we all know that no one would pay more than $30 for the militia tier BPO codes. Especially when they could simply buy boosters instead. first if I am not mistaken they are STD level. and second, they are part of a 149Gé¼ limited collectors edition. in short: if you want it you will have to pay, alot. they are worth atleast 500m isk if not more considering plex prices. ^^ This. See my earlier post which estimates the cost is about 750 million (unless plex prices have changed recently - haven't checked in a couple of months)
Well the DUST514 BPOs won't be worth that much to an EVE player if they don't intend to use them. And paying them $30.00 or the DUST514 equivalent of 750 million ISK is far above what some people are asking for. So I think my offer is quite reasonable. Besides like I said, I'll wait till they hit eBay and see what people want for them. Only then will I make an offer on the set. And they would have to be EU/UK codes anyway as um playing from within the UK.
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pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
105
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Posted - 2013.10.14 14:47:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I think we all know that no one would pay more than $30 for the militia tier BPO codes. Especially when they could simply buy boosters instead. first if I am not mistaken they are STD level. and second, they are part of a 149Gé¼ limited collectors edition. in short: if you want it you will have to pay, alot. they are worth atleast 500m isk if not more considering plex prices. ^^ This. See my earlier post which estimates the cost is about 750 million (unless plex prices have changed recently - haven't checked in a couple of months) Well the DUST514 BPOs won't be worth that much to an EVE player if they don't intend to use them. And paying them $30.00 or the DUST514 equivalent of 750 million ISK is far above what some people are asking for. So I think my offer is quite reasonable. Besides like I said, I'll wait till they hit eBay and see what people want for them. Only then will I make an offer on the set. And they would have to be EU/UK codes anyway as um playing from within the UK. disregard that ps3 pack-in code idea then, it NA only more for me i guess |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.10.14 14:52:00 -
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I'm not concerned about the pack in code. I have the ishukone watch and blood raider saga LAV BPOs and besides, I heard the Guristas LAV doesn't come with a turret anyway. But I am envious of the Black and Gold painting. |
pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
106
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Posted - 2013.10.14 14:58:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I'm not concerned about the pack in code. I have the ishukone watch and blood raider saga LAV BPOs and besides, I heard the Guristas LAV doesn't come with a turret anyway. But I am envious of the Black and Gold painting. it doesn't, so you can confirm that. it does look cool though. the blood raider has a built in turret? what type, blaster?
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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1970
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Posted - 2013.10.14 15:03:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:$5.00 a BPO X 6 BPOs = $30.00. That sounds reasonable. 5 BPO's = $30 $30 = 1.5 plex 1.5 plex = 750 million ISK Ergo, 5 BPO's = 750 million ISK So you can keep the Amarr Logi BPO then in that case.
Forgive the typo - 750 million ISK is for 6 BPO's, and not 5 |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.10.14 15:20:00 -
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pyramidhead 420 wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I'm not concerned about the pack in code. I have the ishukone watch and blood raider saga LAV BPOs and besides, I heard the Guristas LAV doesn't come with a turret anyway. But I am envious of the Black and Gold painting. it doesn't, so you can confirm that. it does look cool though. the blood raider has a built in turret? what type, blaster?
The Ishukone Watch Saga and the Blood Raider Saga both have a militia M1 missile turret BPO, but their pretty decent against other LAV and Infantry.. |
Dust Junky 4Life
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2013.10.14 21:33:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I won't be able to raise 2 billion ISK, but if someone were to say put the codes on eBay??? In b 4 ban! You better read the rules buddy. Buying dust items for real cash outside of PSN will get you BANNED. Just mentioning the word E**Y will get you banned. LOL Been there done that. |
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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1994
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Posted - 2013.10.14 21:47:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I think we all know that no one would pay more than $30 for the militia tier BPO codes. Especially when they could simply buy boosters instead. first if I am not mistaken they are STD level. and second, they are part of a 149Gé¼ limited collectors edition. in short: if you want it you will have to pay, alot. they are worth atleast 500m isk if not more considering plex prices. ^^ This. See my earlier post which estimates the cost is about 750 million (unless plex prices have changed recently - haven't checked in a couple of months) Well the DUST514 BPOs won't be worth that much to an EVE player if they don't intend to use them. And paying them $30.00 or the DUST514 equivalent of 750 million ISK is far above what some people are asking for. So I think my offer is quite reasonable. Besides like I said, I'll wait till they hit eBay and see what people want for them. Only then will I make an offer on the set. And they would have to be EU/UK codes anyway as um playing from within the UK.
You do not understand a capusuleer's love of ISK... |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn Neo Terra Empire
427
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Posted - 2013.10.14 21:55:00 -
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people pay hundreds of billions for random junk that ccp gives away every year. what makes you think people would pay so little(and yes in eve 750mil is tiny for what these bpo's can do). they are going to be worth billions especially if these bpo's are going to be workable in eve sometime in the future. |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:36:00 -
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Dust Junky 4Life wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I won't be able to raise 2 billion ISK, but if someone were to say put the codes on eBay??? In b 4 ban! You better read the rules buddy. Buying dust items for real cash outside of PSN will get you BANNED. Just mentioning the word E**Y will get you banned. LOL Been there done that.
If my account got banned, I'd contact my VISA company and demand all transactions to SONY that paid for DUST514 be reimbursed, all -ú169.00 of it. That way I don't lose anything and I can delete this game fr my ps3 forever and never look back. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
96
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:41:00 -
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I would expect the suit bpos are equivalent to the dren suits and they will receive the skill bonus if you have the suits skill so if you have proto amarr logi then the templar logi will get the 5hps armor regen and the rep bonus so you're kinda looking at around $10 per suit bpo.still i'd probs just wait and check ebay. i know some guys who bought it for dust and are selling the collectors edition and eve codes (they just wanted the dust codes) |
Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
122
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:17:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:The Ishukone Watch Saga and the Blood Raider Saga both have a militia M1 missile turret BPO, but their pretty decent against other LAV and Infantry.. They're identical, down to the paint job. Don't know why they even gave them different names. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3135
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:21:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:I would expect the suit bpos are equivalent to the dren suits and they will receive the skill bonus if you have the suits skill so if you have proto amarr logi then the templar logi will get the 5hps armor regen and the rep bonus so you're kinda looking at around $10 per suit bpo.still i'd probs just wait and check ebay. i know some guys who bought it for dust and are selling the collectors edition and eve codes (they just wanted the dust codes) I'm Looking forwards to using that Logi Suit. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
1182
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:48:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Dust Junky 4Life wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I won't be able to raise 2 billion ISK, but if someone were to say put the codes on eBay??? In b 4 ban! You better read the rules buddy. Buying dust items for real cash outside of PSN will get you BANNED. Just mentioning the word E**Y will get you banned. LOL Been there done that. If my account got banned, I'd contact my VISA company and demand all transactions to SONY that paid for DUST514 be reimbursed, all -ú169.00 of it. That way I don't lose anything and I can delete this game fr my ps3 forever and never look back. Does that mean I can ask for psn gift cards? |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
2039
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:51:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Dust Junky 4Life wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I won't be able to raise 2 billion ISK, but if someone were to say put the codes on eBay??? In b 4 ban! You better read the rules buddy. Buying dust items for real cash outside of PSN will get you BANNED. Just mentioning the word E**Y will get you banned. LOL Been there done that. If my account got banned, I'd contact my VISA company and demand all transactions to SONY that paid for DUST514 be reimbursed, all -ú169.00 of it. That way I don't lose anything and I can delete this game fr my ps3 forever and never look back.
You don't understand how credit card companies work. They don't give you the money back - they get refunds from Sony, and in this case I don't think Sony would comply.
If you reported fraud, they would investigate and find that the transactions were performed using the same PSN used for other transactions and your claim would be denied.
Good luck though. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3141
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:54:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Dust Junky 4Life wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I won't be able to raise 2 billion ISK, but if someone were to say put the codes on eBay??? In b 4 ban! You better read the rules buddy. Buying dust items for real cash outside of PSN will get you BANNED. Just mentioning the word E**Y will get you banned. LOL Been there done that. If my account got banned, I'd contact my VISA company and demand all transactions to SONY that paid for DUST514 be reimbursed, all -ú169.00 of it. That way I don't lose anything and I can delete this game fr my ps3 forever and never look back. You don't understand how credit card companies work. They don't give you the money back - they get refunds from Sony, and in this case I don't think Sony would comply. If you reported fraud, they would investigate and find that the transactions were performed using the same PSN used for other transactions and your claim would be denied. Good luck though. I'm also sure any transactions you have made you have made under some sort of clauses under the agreements you accepted when you agreed to play the game. If you broke any of the rules and got your account banned that is your problem not CCP's because you either failed to read, or complied with their rules. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3921
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:56:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Dust Junky 4Life wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I won't be able to raise 2 billion ISK, but if someone were to say put the codes on eBay??? In b 4 ban! You better read the rules buddy. Buying dust items for real cash outside of PSN will get you BANNED. Just mentioning the word E**Y will get you banned. LOL Been there done that. If my account got banned, I'd contact my VISA company and demand all transactions to SONY that paid for DUST514 be reimbursed, all -ú169.00 of it. That way I don't lose anything and I can delete this game fr my ps3 forever and never look back.
Yeah, no, you wouldn't. Though the post you were replying to was a bit stupid as well. |
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn Neo Terra Empire
430
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:00:00 -
[41] - Quote
Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:I would expect the suit bpos are equivalent to the dren suits and they will receive the skill bonus if you have the suits skill so if you have proto amarr logi then the templar logi will get the 5hps armor regen and the rep bonus so you're kinda looking at around $10 per suit bpo.still i'd probs just wait and check ebay. i know some guys who bought it for dust and are selling the collectors edition and eve codes (they just wanted the dust codes)
you massively undervalued the bpo's imo. you can't compare these to dren's etc as anyone can get those for very little where as its likely these bpos will be one offs only available via the full collectors edition
also you can do whatever you want with code's as its an external item. if howether when trading starts and you try to sell in game items for cash then you would have problems. you can redeem an external code for an ingame item. its only when you exchange an ingame item for an external thing such as money that you break eula etc |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.10.16 00:15:00 -
[42] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Dust Junky 4Life wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I won't be able to raise 2 billion ISK, but if someone were to say put the codes on eBay??? In b 4 ban! You better read the rules buddy. Buying dust items for real cash outside of PSN will get you BANNED. Just mentioning the word E**Y will get you banned. LOL Been there done that. If my account got banned, I'd contact my VISA company and demand all transactions to SONY that paid for DUST514 be reimbursed, all -ú169.00 of it. That way I don't lose anything and I can delete this game fr my ps3 forever and never look back. You don't understand how credit card companies work. They don't give you the money back - they get refunds from Sony, and in this case I don't think Sony would comply. If you reported fraud, they would investigate and find that the transactions were performed using the same PSN used for other transactions and your claim would be denied. Good luck though. I'm also sure any transactions you have made you have made under some sort of clauses under the agreements you accepted when you agreed to play the game. If you broke any of the rules and got your account banned that is your problem not CCP's because you either failed to read, or complied with their rules.
I don't think you quite understand how consumer rights in the UK work. I don't know how things are in ICELAND and the US, but over here the Office of Fair Trading has 'our' backs. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3151
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Posted - 2013.10.16 00:26:00 -
[43] - Quote
Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:
I don't think you quite understand how consumer rights in the UK work. I don't know how things are in ICELAND and the US, but over here the Office of Fair Trading has 'our' backs.
You paid money for a F2P game.
You transgressed the established rules of that developer.
You consumed your Aurum.
That's like going to Mc Donald's asking for a cheese burger, eating it, and handing back the box demanding a refund for it. |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.10.16 01:02:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:
I don't think you quite understand how consumer rights in the UK work. I don't know how things are in ICELAND and the US, but over here the Office of Fair Trading has 'our' backs.
You paid money for a F2P game. You transgressed the established rules of that developer. You consumed your Aurum. That's like going to Mc Donald's asking for a cheese burger, eating it, and handing back the box demanding a refund for it.
1. Yes I spent money on a F2P, it's an option
2. I haven't 'transgressed' any rules dumbass I've just started a thread. CCP can't punish me for something I haven't even done (Minority Report anyone).
3. I've bought packs that contained BPOs aswell as Aurumn, then spent that Aurumn on more BPOs. |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.10.16 01:05:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:True Adamance wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:
I don't think you quite understand how consumer rights in the UK work. I don't know how things are in ICELAND and the US, but over here the Office of Fair Trading has 'our' backs.
You paid money for a F2P game. You transgressed the established rules of that developer. You consumed your Aurum. That's like going to Mc Donald's asking for a cheese burger, eating it, and handing back the box demanding a refund for it. 1. Yes I spent money on a F2P, it's an option 2. I haven't 'transgressed' any rules dumbass I've just started a thread. CCP can't punish me for something I haven't even done (Minority Report anyone). 3. I've bought packs that contained BPOs aswell as Aurumn, then spent that Aurumn on more BPOs.
That's like going to Mc Donalds and buying a Big Mac meal, eating my burger, and then selling fries to a freind whose also hungry, but then having Mc Donalds take my food away saying you cant sell something you paid for, own and want to sell because we sold it to you, expecting that you would consume it, not your freind. |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.10.16 01:13:00 -
[46] - Quote
ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:I would expect the suit bpos are equivalent to the dren suits and they will receive the skill bonus if you have the suits skill so if you have proto amarr logi then the templar logi will get the 5hps armor regen and the rep bonus so you're kinda looking at around $10 per suit bpo.still i'd probs just wait and check ebay. i know some guys who bought it for dust and are selling the collectors edition and eve codes (they just wanted the dust codes) you massively undervalued the bpo's imo. you can't compare these to dren's etc as anyone can get those for very little where as its likely these bpos will be one offs only available via the full collectors edition also you can do whatever you want with code's as its an external item. if howether when trading starts and you try to sell in game items for cash then you would have problems. you can redeem an external code for an ingame item. its only when you exchange an ingame item for an external thing such as money that you break eula etc
^^This. See, I'm not buying like a 100 in-game Duvolle ARs for $4, I'm buying a real world, tangible object, a voucher with codes on it, which can later be redeemed for in-game content. Hell, I could buy a voucher and frame that **** for a keep sake and never redeem it if I wanted to, because it would be something tangible that I fecking own. |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.10.16 01:52:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:I would expect the suit bpos are equivalent to the dren suits and they will receive the skill bonus if you have the suits skill so if you have proto amarr logi then the templar logi will get the 5hps armor regen and the rep bonus so you're kinda looking at around $10 per suit bpo.still i'd probs just wait and check ebay. i know some guys who bought it for dust and are selling the collectors edition and eve codes (they just wanted the dust codes) you massively undervalued the bpo's imo. you can't compare these to dren's etc as anyone can get those for very little where as its likely these bpos will be one offs only available via the full collectors edition also you can do whatever you want with code's as its an external item. if howether when trading starts and you try to sell in game items for cash then you would have problems. you can redeem an external code for an ingame item. its only when you exchange an ingame item for an external thing such as money that you break eula etc
I disagree with your first statement however as I do not believe I have undervalued the BPOs. Firstly you cannot get DREN BPOs for very little, you must purchase an Elite Pack that costs you $100.00 Secondly the Elite Pack comes with 8 DREN BPOs, not 6, like the Templar Pack. Thirdly the Elite Pack has 200,000 Aurumn which in a pack alone cost near enough $100.00, the Templar Pack comes with 0 Aurumn. Now a standard BPO dropsuit such as my Raven dropsuit is worth 19,800 aurmn, which would mean the 3 standard templar BPOs would be worth 59400 aurmn, the 3 standard templar weapons would be worth 40200 aurmn (based on the 13,400 price tag of the Syndicate Sub) and the Drop Uplink would be worth 9800. Now all together that adds up to 109,000 aurumn, which would seem like a lot but bear in mind that this is only half the aurmn you get with the Elite Pack which is 200,000, so that would value them at around $50 when 200,000 aurmn packs are $100. Add into the equation the equation the value of all 8 DREN BPOS that you get in the Elite Pack that are worth 142,800 aurumn, more than the value of the Templar BPOs combined, then you can half the value of the Templar BPOS again from $50 to $25. Now take into consideration the value of the 2 Active and 2 Passive boosters that you get with the Elite Pack, compared to the lack of boosters that you get with the Templar Pack and.... Well you can see where I'm going with this (94,000 aurumn again) , you could quite cpmfortably halve the value of the Templar BPOs again to $17.50 to compensate for the missing value. Now take into consideration all the hundreds of consumables that you also get, and you can comfortably take $4-$5 off. And that leaves you with 7 BPOS worth on average between $12-$14. So I think you'll find that my offer was quite realistic, quite reasonable, reasonably supported by mathematics (it wasn't my favourite subject at school), and is quite achievable on the market to date, so long as people do the math, and don't just pick out a price because of the 'exclusivity'. Trust me, 'exclusivity' is not worth $15 more than a BPOs actual value.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.16 01:58:00 -
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A billion ISK would do it. |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:04:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:A billion ISK would do it.
Is a billion ISK suddenly worth $14 or something? |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:15:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:True Adamance wrote:A billion ISK would do it. Is a billion ISK suddenly worth $14 or something? No its worth about $40 NZ
Which for me was more like $20 since I had 500Mill lying around.
You are also comparing a pack designed to aid beginners with a pack that promises nothing and is specifically a collectible I suppose, given the nature of the actual product the EVE pilot is buying. |
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:22:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Dust Junky 4Life wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I won't be able to raise 2 billion ISK, but if someone were to say put the codes on eBay??? In b 4 ban! You better read the rules buddy. Buying dust items for real cash outside of PSN will get you BANNED. Just mentioning the word E**Y will get you banned. LOL Been there done that. If my account got banned, I'd contact my VISA company and demand all transactions to SONY that paid for DUST514 be reimbursed, all -ú169.00 of it. That way I don't lose anything and I can delete this game fr my ps3 forever and never look back. Does that mean I can ask for psn gift cards?
Where buying items for dust and eve is against the EULA is concerned its buying the actual item in eve or dust and not buying a card with a code on it. for example. in eve i have a machariel pirate battleship. if i put that on ebay for -ú20 to transfer that digital item to someone else then its against the EULA. if i bought a special edition of eve which gave me a code to redeem for a free machariel battleship i could sell that on ebay. same as in dust. when player trading comes into play, if i put on ebay 10 x black eagle scout suits for -ú5 i could get banned for it whereas the sale of the cards you get in the new ps3 super slims or dust branded headsets/keyboard isn't against eula.
its a complicated area |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:23:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Dust Junky 4Life wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:I won't be able to raise 2 billion ISK, but if someone were to say put the codes on eBay??? In b 4 ban! You better read the rules buddy. Buying dust items for real cash outside of PSN will get you BANNED. Just mentioning the word E**Y will get you banned. LOL Been there done that. If my account got banned, I'd contact my VISA company and demand all transactions to SONY that paid for DUST514 be reimbursed, all -ú169.00 of it. That way I don't lose anything and I can delete this game fr my ps3 forever and never look back. Does that mean I can ask for psn gift cards? Where buying items for dust and eve is against the EULA is concerned its buying the actual item in eve or dust and not buying a card with a code on it. for example. in eve i have a machariel pirate battleship. if i put that on ebay for -ú20 to transfer that digital item to someone else then its against the EULA. if i bought a special edition of eve which gave me a code to redeem for a free machariel battleship i could sell that on ebay. same as in dust. when player trading comes into play, if i put on ebay 10 x black eagle scout suits for -ú5 i could get banned for it whereas the sale of the cards you get in the new ps3 super slims or dust branded headsets/keyboard isn't against eula. its a complicated area Thanks for clearing that up for me. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:31:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:[ you massively undervalued the bpo's imo. you can't compare these to dren's etc as anyone can get those for very little where as its likely these bpos will be one offs only available via the full collectors edition
They are currently as easily available as the dren suits though, they just offer different racial suits to the assault and logi. and also with the recent retirement of the merc pack then there is no gurantee that the elite or veteran packs will be around forever. the rarity of the suits for both is solely based on how many people buy either products and who sell them when the markets finally open up in game
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:32:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:[ you massively undervalued the bpo's imo. you can't compare these to dren's etc as anyone can get those for very little where as its likely these bpos will be one offs only available via the full collectors edition
They are currently as easily available as the dren suits though, they just offer different racial suits to the assault and logi. and also with the recent retirement of the merc pack then there is no gurantee that the elite or veteran packs will be around forever. the rarity of the suits for both is solely based on how many people buy either products and who sell them when the markets finally open up in game They are limited by the number of EVE collectors editions that are ordered I believe. |
Byozuma Kegawa
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:36:00 -
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Exclusivity actually does carry more value than you're alluding to. Be it next month or next year, it's highly likely people will still be able to buy the Dren pack, maybe even at a discount. The items in the Collectible Set will not. Later this month will be the only time CCP will release them, making them alot harder to get down the road assuming noone uses the codes to begin with. Thusly their value can't really be compared to any of the PSN packs. |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.16 03:14:00 -
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Byozuma Kegawa wrote:Exclusivity actually does carry more value than you're alluding to. Be it next month or next year, it's highly likely people will still be able to buy the Dren pack, maybe even at a discount. The items in the Collectible Set will not. Later this month will be the only time CCP will release them, making them alot harder to get down the road assuming noone uses the codes to begin with. Thusly their value can't really be compared to any of the PSN packs.
Your valuing a timed exclusive over that of their intrinsic value, simply because they are harder to come by doesn't mean they offer any benefits over the DREN equivalent, as the Templar A1 Heavy will be identical to my DREN A1 Heavy in every way, over than I'm colour - black&red/tan&brown |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
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Posted - 2013.10.16 03:18:00 -
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The only value I hold for thelse Templar BPOs is that they we're not available on the market previously, so I will get them this time for the laser rifle, scrambler rifle and amarr logo and assault dropsuit BPO. I'm not fussed about the drop uplonk or scrambler pistol BPO, however I will admit the Templa. Harvey looks aesthetically more appealing than my DREN. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.16 03:23:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote:Exclusivity actually does carry more value than you're alluding to. Be it next month or next year, it's highly likely people will still be able to buy the Dren pack, maybe even at a discount. The items in the Collectible Set will not. Later this month will be the only time CCP will release them, making them alot harder to get down the road assuming noone uses the codes to begin with. Thusly their value can't really be compared to any of the PSN packs. Your valuing a timed exclusive over that of their intrinsic value, simply because they are harder to come by doesn't mean they offer any benefits over the DREN equivalent, as the Templar A1 Heavy will be identical to my DREN A1 Heavy in every way, over than I'm colour - black&red/tan&brown That's not how other people will look at it though. They are the sellers, they have a market, they do not care for the items intrinsic value, they wish to A get rid of it, B make a profit on it. |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.16 03:37:00 -
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Well I think they will struggle to make a profit on it, as they would have to sell the Templar Pack at $151+ |
Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2013.10.16 13:07:00 -
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lot of re-sellers will order several units of the collectors edition. some stores may even buy copies to sell instore too. in the right hands you could get a templar code in several years as it wont be removed (unless the codes have expiry dates) whereas they could remove the dren from the elite pack tomorrow if they wished. the templar suits will have a fixed number (collectors edition units sold) the dren suits currently are unlimitless as they are still available to anyone and everyone. the only time we will know how many are available is when they are removed and know the final sales of the elite pack.
I just wish we got more racial options than the fixed chromosome race layout (amarr heavy, cald assault, gal scout, min logi ect) i'd like to see a covenant minmatar or gallente assault, maybe a nice black eagle gallente assault. hopefully when all suits/weapons are out it be nice to get some racial merc packs |
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