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          JL3Eleven 
          PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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        Posted - 2013.10.13 15:56:00 -
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          Patrick57 wrote:Once I saw a Proto Caldari Logi with 700 armor and ~300 shields. No lie.  
  I can do 513s/505a on mine w/ proto AR and nades. | 
      
      
      
          
          Patrick57 
          GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.10.13 16:01:00 -
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          JL3Eleven wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Once I saw a Proto Caldari Logi with 700 armor and ~300 shields. No lie.  I can do 513s/505a on mine w/ proto AR and nades.    I was just saying-Really? I've seen Proto Gallente Logis with less armor than that! Trying to armor tank Caldari suits IMO is.....stupid. Besides all that, more than half of his kills came from Core Locus Grenades. No wonder he was from SVER   | 
      
      
      
          
          Tyjus Vacca 
          Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
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        Posted - 2013.10.13 16:29:00 -
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          holy crap are you guys really denying that the AR is overpowered, their hasn't been a build where at least one variant of the AR was not massively over powered, we all know its supposed to be easy mode point and shoot but it is way too good at every range it shouldn't be curb stomping shotguns at less than 20 meters or blasting snipers past 100 meters and with aim assist ill destroyed heavies with hmgs at close range who got the jump on me with an AR and I suck with them can't stand the iron sights needs a massive range and dmg nerf if its gonna have aim assist | 
      
      
      
          
          negative49er 
          Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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        Posted - 2013.10.13 22:15:00 -
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          Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:George Moros wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: correlation doesn't imply causation
  just because the AR is most commonly used, doesn't mean it's the best.
 
  that is like saying mcdonnalds has the best burgers because they are most often purchased... 
  Of course. The AR is most used weapon because Duvolle Labs has New Eden-wide retail availabilty, best prices, and is advertised the most. You also get a complimentary can of Quafe with every puchased AR. Check your logic again.  No, it's used the most because it is the easiest weapon to use. People are familiar with firing a 30+ round assault weapon with low recoil into an enemy. And they are less adventurous to go for a charge-shot scrambler rifle, or anything that isn't remotely resemblant of every single other shooter out there.  
  Forget the AR the greatest thrill is this game is the shotgun | 
      
      
      
          
          Thurak1 
          Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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        Posted - 2013.10.13 22:20:00 -
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          Medic 1879 wrote:Isn't the laser rifle's optimum a tiny tiny window or did they fix that yet?   Its still there. I dont use LR's myself so i am not sure what it is but there is definantly a certain somewhat magical window where a LR is much like a death ray. Too close and a LR doesnt do jack and too far and its about as effective as a laser pointer. | 
      
      
      
          
          HYENAKILLER X 
          Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
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        Posted - 2013.10.13 22:27:00 -
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          Chilled Pill wrote:AR > Small Blaster Turret mounted on an LAV. 
  If you don't call bull-ish on that, I don't know what's wrong with you.   This is true only because of accuracy and being a fixed position weapon. | 
      
      
      
          
          Tech Ohm Eaven 
          L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.10.13 22:29:00 -
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          Mortedeamor wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Please tell AR nerfers most full time AR users have proficiency and sharpshooter at 5 plus maybe a complex damage mod or 3.
   if they nerf the ar it is because they cannot distinguish the skilled veteran players feedback from scrubs  
 
  Scrambler rifle has over heat. Laser has over heat. HMG has over heat.
  AR has what?? Does it fail at distances under 30m like the laser? Does it kill the user like the laser or mass driver??
  So the AR has WHAT??? | 
      
      
      
          
          Banning Hammer 
          Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2013.10.13 22:41:00 -
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          Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Please tell AR nerfers most full time AR users have proficiency and sharpshooter at 5 plus maybe a complex damage mod or 3.
   if they nerf the ar it is because they cannot distinguish the skilled veteran players feedback from scrubs  Scrambler rifle has over heat. Laser has over heat. HMG has over heat. AR has what?? Does it fail at distances under 30m like the laser? Does it kill the user like the laser or mass driver?? So the AR has WHAT???  
  You just quoted a post with the actual answer to your question.... 
  Sharpshooter is a skill to reduce the Bullet Spread of the AR. | 
      
      
      
          
          Shotty GoBang 
          Pro Hic Immortalis
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        Posted - 2013.10.14 00:28:00 -
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          Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:Watch that kill feed. Patterns tend to exist for a reason.  correlation doesn't imply causation just because the AR is most commonly used, doesn't mean it's the best. that is like saying mcdonnalds has the best burgers because they are most often purchased...    And if 75% of us ate nothing but McDonald's, what might one conclude about available alternatives? | 
      
      
      
          
          AFK Godfather 
          Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.10.14 00:50:00 -
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          claiming this game is balanced   | 
      
      
      
          
          Cosgar 
          ParagonX
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        Posted - 2013.10.14 01:06:00 -
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          I'm seeing more and more heavies and scouts using ARs. FFS, even I'm training into ARs on my main again on my main. | 
      
      
      
          
          Lance 2ballzStrong 
          SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.10.14 01:27:00 -
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          wait... this game is balanced? hahahaha
  Wonder why I was seeing more and more Caldari suits + AR's? Must be my imagination I guess  
  If this game was as perfect as you claimed, why were guns like the tact. AR, flaylock nerfed? Why is the caldari suit #1? Why are so many people using the AR over ANY other gun? 
  I called current heavies hipsters, but tbh, if you're not using an AR by now you're a hipster too. | 
      
      
      
          
          deepfried salad gilliam 
          Sanguine Knights
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          Banning Hammer wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Please tell AR nerfers most full time AR users have proficiency and sharpshooter at 5 plus maybe a complex damage mod or 3.
   if they nerf the ar it is because they cannot distinguish the skilled veteran players feedback from scrubs  Scrambler rifle has over heat. Laser has over heat. HMG has over heat. AR has what?? Does it fail at distances under 30m like the laser? Does it kill the user like the laser or mass driver?? So the AR has WHAT???  You just quoted a post with the actual answer to your question....  Sharpshooter is a skill to reduce the  Bullet Spread of the AR.   So um sharpshooter is useless, I have lvl 1 in ar, I use an ar occasionaly because of its mega cheap fitting cost and it has no spread at all also what skills allow my scr to negate its down sides | 
      
      
      
          
          Chilled Pill 
          Pro Hic Immortalis
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        Posted - 2013.10.14 10:31:00 -
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          Banning Hammer wrote:Chilled Pill wrote:AR > Small Blaster Turret mounted on an LAV. 
  If you don't call bull-ish on that, I don't know what's wrong with you.  Oh, really ? so what is an HMG then ? or even better... what is a Forge Gun ?Here, you see CCP ? Perfect example of a Scrub.  
 
  What are you talking about? Does anyone even understand this guy?
 
 
  Unfortunately, there's no hope for you -- there's no cure for stupid. | 
      
      
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