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Knight Soiaire
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:30:00 -
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The most worthless role in DUST right now.
You may say that title belong to Dropships, but dropships have uses that no other class can match, like getting to high grounds.
What have Scouts got? Besides a fancy name.
We may strafe faster, but its minimal, and its useless in gunfights.
We may be able to speed tank, but, we trade a lot of HP to do so, whereas med frames can almost match our sprint, with twice, to three times our eHP.
We cant even Scout our Scan radius is the same as every other suit in the game.
Every thing we can do, it can be matched by almost every single other class in the game.
Making Scouts, the most useless role in DUST, hands down.
Dropships are in a bad position, but at least they've got some idea of where they're heading.
I know you've acknowledged that Scouts need some love, but we need to know what you plan on doing, and when you plan on doing it. |
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:38:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:LOL you're already doing it wrong. What the heck is a scout doing in a gunfight? That isn't its role on the battlefield. That's why scouts have low HP because they are...scouts. Scouts are deployed with the minimal for their own effectiveness.
A good scout lurks in the shadows and never go head on in confrontation. If you want that, you should be playing as an Assault player.
Get out.
How do you expect a Scout to Scout with 10m Scan Radius?
The same as every other dropsuit.
Dont say an Active Scanner, because Meds can also use that. |
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Posted - 2013.10.13 02:03:00 -
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My Minnie Med runs .6m/s slower than my Scout.
With twice as much HP.
He can also use a Shotgun. |
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Posted - 2013.10.13 02:18:00 -
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I never said Scouts needed more HP.
I'm just asking CCP where they're trying to take Scouts.
I need a reply, I'm so close to deleting Dust. |
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Posted - 2013.10.13 02:27:00 -
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Bleeding Knight wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Michael Arck wrote:LOL you're already doing it wrong. What the heck is a scout doing in a gunfight? That isn't its role on the battlefield. That's why scouts have low HP because they are...scouts. Scouts are deployed with the minimal for their own effectiveness.
A good scout lurks in the shadows and never go head on in confrontation. If you want that, you should be playing as an Assault player. Get out. How do you expect a Scout to Scout with 10m Scan Radius? The same as every other dropsuit. Dont say an Active Scanner, because Meds can also use that. Meds can use a lot of things it doesn't mean other suits can't. If you don't like active scanners use modules that improve that.
And sacrifice my two Biotics in my lows?
Nope. |
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Posted - 2013.10.13 02:33:00 -
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Bleeding Knight wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Bleeding Knight wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Michael Arck wrote:LOL you're already doing it wrong. What the heck is a scout doing in a gunfight? That isn't its role on the battlefield. That's why scouts have low HP because they are...scouts. Scouts are deployed with the minimal for their own effectiveness.
A good scout lurks in the shadows and never go head on in confrontation. If you want that, you should be playing as an Assault player. Get out. How do you expect a Scout to Scout with 10m Scan Radius? The same as every other dropsuit. Dont say an Active Scanner, because Meds can also use that. Meds can use a lot of things it doesn't mean other suits can't. If you don't like active scanners use modules that improve that. And sacrifice my two Biotics in my lows? Nope. You can always convince a logy to use an active scanner with their position compromise try sneaking up on the reds. Scan dampers would really help against red active scanners.
I dont really need dampeners.
Its the only good thing about being a Scout. |
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Posted - 2013.10.13 12:11:00 -
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BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:The most worthless role in DUST right now.
You may say that title belong to Dropships, but dropships have uses that no other class can match, like getting to high grounds.
What have Scouts got? Besides a fancy name.
We may strafe faster, but its minimal, and its useless in gunfights.
We may be able to speed tank, but, we trade a lot of HP to do so, whereas med frames can almost match our sprint, with twice, to three times our eHP.
We cant even Scout our Scan radius is the same as every other suit in the game.
Every thing we can do, it can be matched by almost every single other class in the game.
Making Scouts, the most useless role in DUST, hands down.
Dropships are in a bad position, but at least they've got some idea of where they're heading.
I know you've acknowledged that Scouts need some love, but we need to know what you plan on doing, and when you plan on doing it. i think the op needs to go read some scouting how to's on these forums and also read up on scan presicion vs scan radius and i dont kno bout useless ... hardmode yes useless hell no i went 33/11 with 2150 wp earlier and you call that useless and all with std mini light frame and sg/ kn bah useless op go back to D-UNI
Ask any Competitive corp, what they'd prefer.
A speed tanked Min Logi / Cal Logi, or Speed Tanked Scout.
Maybe we are useful at owning blueberries in pub matches, like every other class in the game, but in PC, corps would prefer to fill our slot with a Logi.
We are useless in the way that another role can do what we do, but better.
Calamity Jane and Anne Oakley proved how useless Scouts were, and still are. |
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Posted - 2013.10.14 15:43:00 -
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I was waiting to bump this for Monday, because I know thats when the Devs are about.
*Lays out sacrificial lamb*
C'mon Wolfman, dont be shy!
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Posted - 2013.10.14 15:45:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI wrote: bah useless op go back to D-UNI
Interesting choice of insult...
Dont be insulted.
I know a few Dust Uni, or ex Dust Uni Scouts that would embarrass him on the field. |
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Posted - 2013.10.15 15:45:00 -
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Well.....
A reply would be nice Wolfman.
I hate having to go about it like this, but Scouts have kept their mouths shut for so long, last post I remember was a dev saying that new features would be added to buff Scouts, but that could've been a CPM post.
Its been so long I dont even remember.
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Posted - 2013.10.16 12:29:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:The most worthless role in DUST right now.
You may say that title belong to Dropships, but dropships have uses that no other class can match, like getting to high grounds.
What have Scouts got? Besides a fancy name.
We may strafe faster, but its minimal, and its useless in gunfights.
We may be able to speed tank, but, we trade a lot of HP to do so, whereas med frames can almost match our sprint, with twice, to three times our eHP.
We cant even Scout our Scan radius is the same as every other suit in the game.
Every thing we can do, it can be matched by almost every single other class in the game.
Making Scouts, the most useless role in DUST, hands down.
Dropships are in a bad position, but at least they've got some idea of where they're heading.
I know you've acknowledged that Scouts need some love, but we need to know what you plan on doing, and when you plan on doing it. The scout and the heavy
The Heavy does have some sort of use, although their HP difference is minimal, but their speed difference is huge.
Heavies are still the only class able to use a Heavy Weapon. |
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Posted - 2013.10.19 18:50:00 -
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I'm praying that Scouts are at least mentioned in EVE-Vegas tonight.
If we're not, then the entire event is a fail in my eyes, unless they anounce PVE.....
Although, both are highly unlikely. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 15:06:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:I'm praying that Scouts are at least mentioned in EVE-Vegas tonight.
Events / Presentations are akin to a sales pitch ... Focus on a product's strengths, rather than bring to light its weaknesses. I missed the event summary; my expectations were not high as it pertains to the Scout. Anything cool coming?
I wasn't able to watch the whole thing.
The most interesting thing to me, is that they showed an image of what the Player run marketplace might look like. |
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:39:00 -
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C'mon devs, please respond!
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