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Humble Seeker PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11	Posted - 2013.10.12 14:25:00 - [1] - Quote I'm close to being able to use the commando suit, with the plan to replace my tier 1 heavy suit with it. I've been using said suit with either laser rifle/assault scrambler rifle for some time now, and have been told by some folks that if I want to get the best of both worlds, but still have some "heavy-ish" health and the ability to carry a nanohive, then I should go for it. But I keep hearing that the suit is.....less than optimal at the moment. So what's the consensus? I'll probably try it, but is there some major flaw that I should be wary of?
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 616	Posted - 2013.10.12 14:29:00 - [2] - Quote My advice, avoid CQC situations, roll with a squad, and depending on what you've got equipped, stick to the outskirts of the fight. Be long ranged suppressor. I usually run assault a rambler rifle and either MD or sniper on the basic commando & a compact hive.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 807	Posted - 2013.10.12 14:35:00 - [3] - Quote No Heavy I know uses it. ADV Sentinel is better for my use. Cheaper than lvl 3 Basic, only has 1 high slot (complex damage mod) and 3 low. Makes for good armor tanking. My Alt got some based on some recent Event but they have yet to be worth running. The Commando isn't fast enough to me. The idea is okay but the class benefits are a joke. Bonus to shield and armor modules but that only comes into play at ADV (1 low slot) or PROTO (1 high, 1 low). Almost an insult, personally. However, you can run two lights so a Sniper and a Swarmer might work or Swarmer and Swarmer with a K17/D Hive. If you have any AUR then consider buying a few. 5 to 10 is cheap enough in Real World Cash and don't cost any SP. If you cannot get them to work then drop the idea and switch to Sentinels. And since this is DUST, do the math. How much do they cost, how much eHP do they provide and how many times do you want to have two Light Weapons? Good Luck.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2751	Posted - 2013.10.12 14:37:00 - [4] - Quote Take it from a fellow Praetorian, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1385642#post1385642 It can definitely be worth it, and it a lot of fun, but I'm not going to lie - if you pick this suit, then you are choosing the hard way.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 567	Posted - 2013.10.12 14:38:00 - [5] - Quote MD+Laser on a Commando suit=HEAVENLY :D
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2754	Posted - 2013.10.12 14:39:00 - [6] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: MD+Laser on a Commando suit=HEAVENLY :D Everything about a mass driver is hell, so I wouldn't call that heavenly.
Humble Seeker PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12	Posted - 2013.10.12 14:39:00 - [7] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Take it from a fellow Praetorian, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1385642#post1385642 It can definitely be worth it, and it a lot of fun, but I'm not going to lie - if you pick this suit, then you are choosing the hard way. I feel silly for just now seeing that thread, it's on the front page.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 567	Posted - 2013.10.12 14:42:00 - [8] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Patrick57 wrote: MD+Laser on a Commando suit=HEAVENLY :D Everything about a mass driver is hell, so I wouldn't call that heavenly. That's....not.....the point....
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2754	Posted - 2013.10.12 14:44:00 - [9] - Quote Humble Seeker wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Take it from a fellow Praetorian, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1385642#post1385642 It can definitely be worth it, and it a lot of fun, but I'm not going to lie - if you pick this suit, then you are choosing the hard way. I feel silly for just now seeing that thread, it's on the front page. Don't feel silly, I wouldn't expect there to be a commando thread on the first page either! And hey, if you do go Commando I'll definitely be there to aid you with my own commando. Plus see my edit in my first response above. Patrick57 wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Patrick57 wrote: MD+Laser on a Commando suit=HEAVENLY :D Everything about a mass driver is hell, so I wouldn't call that heavenly. That's....not.....the point.... With me, that is always the point.
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2198	Posted - 2013.10.12 14:44:00 - [10] - Quote Not "heavy-ish" health at all. It's not that bad, but it is not easy money either. As it stands, it is really good at long range combat, especially with the Scrambler Rifle and Laser Rifle, but even get into SMG range and you will be killed faster than a scout. Also, the standard Commando has no modules. So the health you see, is the health you get. It's not a bad suit, just requires a very specialized load out for very specific situations.

General John Ripper TeamPlayers EoN. 3272	Posted - 2013.10.12 14:46:00 - [11] - Quote it sucks
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 567	Posted - 2013.10.12 14:47:00 - [12] - Quote And they cost so much, even more expensive than the basic light suits.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2755	Posted - 2013.10.12 14:49:00 - [13] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Not "heavy-ish" health at all. It's not that bad, but it is not easy money either. As it stands, it is really good at long range combat, especially with the Scrambler Rifle and Laser Rifle, but even get into SMG range and you will be killed faster than a scout. Also, the standard Commando has no modules. So the health you see, is the health you get. It's not a bad suit, just requires a very specialized load out for very specific situations. I've been surviving a few close combat situations now, just got to figure out that scrambler rifle hip fire plus your 240 melee damage. As far as standard getting no mods, that's not such a big deal since all the mods I use at advanced or proto are buffer mods anyways. So the standard ends up with less health than the other suits, that's usually how it works anyways.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2755	Posted - 2013.10.12 14:51:00 - [14] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: And they cost so much, even more expensive than the basic light suits. Yeah I agree with that, the suits themselves are a good bit more expensive than the others. Still managed to get my advanced fit down to under 35k, but if I were to swap better mods/equipment for better weapons the price goes up quite a bit. Don't know why CCP thought the Commando would be so good they needed to add a premium to the price.
Ryme Intrinseca Seraphim Auxiliaries 108	Posted - 2013.10.12 15:12:00 - [15] - Quote Commando suit+twin plasma cannons=win
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 671	Posted - 2013.10.12 15:37:00 - [16] - Quote no. not until it's better.
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 95	Posted - 2013.10.12 17:16:00 - [17] - Quote i speced into it to look like iron man in the warbage, but without seeing the warbage anymore, it collects alot of dust :) laser/scram + md or sniper +ar and lastly ar + swarms. only 3 decent fits ive found you're handicapping yourself heavily by using it tho
Alldin Kan TeamPlayers EoN. 670	Posted - 2013.10.12 17:33:00 - [18] - Quote Humble Seeker wrote: I'm close to being able to use the commando suit, with the plan to replace my tier 1 heavy suit with it. I've been using said suit with either laser rifle/assault scrambler rifle for some time now, and have been told by some folks that if I want to get the best of both worlds, but still have some "heavy-ish" health and the ability to carry a nanohive, then I should go for it. But I keep hearing that the suit is.....less than optimal at the moment. So what's the consensus? I'll probably try it, but is there some major flaw that I should be wary of? It's ****.
Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 803	Posted - 2013.10.12 17:40:00 - [19] - Quote I think the Amaar commando needs at least one extra low slot, which the STD should start off with.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2759	Posted - 2013.10.12 17:55:00 - [20] - Quote People who think it's garbage need to squad up with me Not to say that it's not under powered, it is. But you can make it work with the right mindset.

Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 17	Posted - 2013.10.12 18:54:00 - [21] - Quote As a primary slayer or tank the commando falls short, but it absolutely can be put to good tactical advantage when loaded out right, MD/LR/ Spawn. , AR/MD/hive or needle, also Av use
Thor McStrut Reckoners 227	Posted - 2013.10.12 19:14:00 - [22] - Quote If you like unnecessary challenge, then yes it is. I mostly run a GK-13 and EXO fit, but I have an overwatch fit with sniper and swarms. I've also created a combat sniper fit with a GLU and sniper to have all ranges covered, but haven't tested it yet. As posted above, stay on the outskirts. It's too slow to be a brawler, so don't try to stand your ground and slug it out. Personally, I think a serious decrease to its signature or a significant bonus to reducing it per level would go a long way to aiding it's flanking ability and survivability. I also find the lack of grenades to be detrimental as well. Maybe a variant that gives up the equipment slot for grenades.
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 96	Posted - 2013.10.12 20:15:00 - [23] - Quote also, its to slow. it needs logi-ish speed and the minimal slots aren't made for fitting speed enhancers, with its unusually low cpu/pg. for a suit designed to carry 2 light weapons, the cpu/pg are way off. ps with how much tweaking it needs, a buff and rework is all but certain. its more a question of when and where, "commando rework" fits on the priority list.
Pent'noir Algintal Core Gallente Federation 128	Posted - 2013.10.12 22:52:00 - [24] - Quote I've been wondering about this suit for dual swarms when i'm planning to avoid infantry and just kill the vehicle. It could mean that I can get six swarms off before reloading instead of three. Although, most vehicles don't stick around that long.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles 189	Posted - 2013.10.12 23:39:00 - [25] - Quote Commando Sniper/Swarm's up high is pretty much unstoppable played right... It's a neat gamestyle when played right... And a great asset to any competitive DUST matches.


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