Was thinking since we never got placeholders, the light weapon branch should get a respec allocated to it, am sure a lot of caldari/matari players will use their racial weapon as opposed to AR (maybe other people as well? :O).

Kinda seems fair, maybe even restrict the respect so points can only go into the new weapons or whatever. The long and short of it is, gonna suck having Ms of SP in weapons that wont be touched anymore, entirely at the fault of CCP not giving placeholders.

Thoughts?

Aren't vehicles going to be refunded? At least partially?

Edit:Also, I'd be fine with letting pilots change their vehicle once they are released.

you get all the SP and ISK back.

No. That's a refund for something that is removed. Respec means that everything is given back to you so you may spend them again. We had a respec once. Refunds are acceptable by me, as that is fair for taking things out. Respecs are not, as nothing is removed to warrant a full return of everything.

Vehicle users that get SP back for the vehicles removed- that's fine. Refund.

Infantry getting respec'd because a weapon changes (but is not removed) is not. Now, if they REMOVED the gun, then that calls for a refund.

Besides, everyone knows that the ex-tankers will be roflstomped into oblivion if they go infantry. :>

Added note: Armored Core: Verdict Day is pretty gnarly and is an enjoyable alternative to Dust 514, if anyone is wondering.

I have a quite nice reserve of SP thank you, thats not the point or even relevant.

Justify it then !

Why didn't all tankers 'pool' all their SP and not spec into anything ?

I've seen ppl say no respecs at all even for heavys who have only ever had 1 suit to spec into, why should tankers be the only ones to get a partial respec ?

People saying no is fine it's an opinion but at least explain WHY you have come to that conclusion, nothing is more childish than saying .. No ... No .. No ... if you don't back up your point then it isn't worth anything

no, he said 'when something is changed'. a skill tree or a skill itself.

Ha! why are tankers so special?
Dropsuits are in a very similar situation where a vast majority of the content they plan to release has not been released.

What i think its BS that ONLY tankers get a respec.
I have Fully Proto AV and im pretty sure vehicle changes affect AV weaponry AND AV weaponry will get tweaked too.

So Respec for EVERYONE, or for no one.

This, no to respecs; but just tankers because we have a vehicle redo.
Or : No Respecs ; unless my AR gets nerfed.

ITS BULLS**t

Give us ALL repecs options until CCP gets everything out and balaced.

In eve you can raise several accounts with full sp without even playing, or you just buy one from another player. In short yout point is null and void, beside that eve is an mmorpg with stable playerbase, dust is a f2p lobby shooter where playercount at primetime decreases by 500 per month.

Sorry the last paragraph wasn't specifically aimed at you, I ment generally people who use FOTM stuff.

I burned through 120 mil isk at the same time cos the Amarr Logistics suit didn't work at anything but proto level. But I brought it up on the forums n they fixed it ... people have brought up many problems with vehicles, so they're fixing them ... your logi dropship will do what it's supposed to do by the time they come back, until then you'll still have a dropship you can fly ... n if that's not what you wanted ... refer to my previous post !

I think everyone should get only one respec. That way, nobody will QQ. I'm still with my first character I ever created and effed around with the skills. That means I have some skills allocated where I now know I won't ever use. I've never once had a respectable since I joined in June and, personally, I don't even care about getting one. If you want to ditch anything you already have, start from scratch to specialize in whatever it is you want. This way, new players will stand more if a chance. Maybe. Point is: it's just a game, so just spend more time on it paying to earn those new shiny things. It's not like you haven't done so already. Babies.

TL; DR: Stop being a baby and deal with not having a respec. One is enough.

Have you read what the current plan is? I mean really read the entire post from the Devs?

They are fixing vehicles by removing all the ADV vehicles. They are gone. The STD vehicles will have significantly Less functionality than the current version. As in they are losing low and high slots. PG, CPU and HP. The tanks are being redesigned to be an 'empty husk' that will be very fragile until the super special new modules that last 1/3 the time compared to current while requiring significantly more time to recharge (2-3 times). So run in fast, push the modules, hammer away for 20 seconds and run like your life depends on it. Because it will. Then spend several minutes back at base recharging, restocking ammo and waiting for the very limited functionality that CCP/Shanghai believes Tanks should be restricted to will be available. And, no, we don't know what the significantly reduced roles that are supported by CCP/Shanghai because we have nothing to work with. Except a few google docs and they are what put the twist in vehicle owners knickers.

Now consider the DS pilots. Fragile bricks that are difficult to fly* and provide next to nothing for rewards for using them. The only ships worth using are being removed. They will, no doubt, suffer the very same fate as the Tanks. LLAVs are gone as well.

There is not only no time frame for this balancing act but there is no time frame as to when the functionality will be replaced. If ever as there is no guarantees with CCP. Decisions have consequences. And do they ever when CCP refuses to behave like a freaking grown up.

Thanks for the time you put in because we just destroyed your character. Start a different one because your SP is locked into something we destroyed. With a very special HTFU from CCP!



* Why would anybody make the DS such a piece of Kitten Excrement to fly? It is the worst possible method to use for flight controls and it absolutely inconsistent with the rest of New Eden. Recall that EVE is basically a spread sheet. And flying means click and point, but down in the DUST the DS uses horrible controls that make no sense. Plus a constantly changing camera view that is only changeable by the Devs, not the operator. Classic CCP/Shanghai, now that I think of it.