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Rinzler XVII wrote:

Needless Sacermendor wrote:

NO to respecs ...

YES to Re-allocations !!

There that's confused you all ... basically when racial variants come out you are given the option to move ALL your invested sp in say Amarr Heavy dropsuits into one of the other racial Heavy dropsuits ... or move all your Caldari HAV skills points into Minmatar HAV.

No need for refunds or respecs ... just need a UI setup like the attribute remap in Eve with sliders to drop points off a Heavy skill and put onto a different Heavy skill or off an AR skill onto another AR skill as and when racial variants are released.

If you didn't want to be a Heavy or a HAV driver or a dropship pilot or a logistics, then you made a wrong decision ... if you skilled something that's FOTM, OP or not working as intended and needs balancing/changing for the good of the game then tuff, save up for the next FOTM using the points you farmed with this one, or start using it how it was intended.

That would be fine, I dont want a respec to switch to a diff suit/weapon i just want to be able to reallocate the sp i have invested into the only current AR variant into a caldari variant of the same weapon when it is introduced and im sure heavies feel the same, they have been forced to go down the amarr suit route because they havent had any other option since the game was 1st introduced and most heavies would like to reallocate the sp into the variant of suit they wanted in the 1st place .. this really goes for all current weapons suits vehicles .. the whole FoTM issue is one entirely derived from CCP nnot balancing everything properley .. I've played mmo's for over a decade and when things are balanced their isn;t ever an issue of FoTM .. it's only an issue here because certain weapons/suits etc are stronger than other suits/weapons


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Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 523	Posted - 2013.10.13 22:31:00 - [1] - Quote NO to respecs ... YES to Re-allocations !! There that's confused you all ... basically when racial variants come out you are given the option to move ALL your invested sp in say Amarr Heavy dropsuits into one of the other racial Heavy dropsuits ... or move all your Caldari HAV skills points into Minmatar HAV. No need for refunds or respecs ... just need a UI setup like the attribute remap in Eve with sliders to drop points off a Heavy skill and put onto a different Heavy skill or off an AR skill onto another AR skill as and when racial variants are released. If you didn't want to be a Heavy or a HAV driver or a dropship pilot or a logistics, then you made a wrong decision ... if you skilled something that's FOTM, OP or not working as intended and needs balancing/changing for the good of the game then tuff, save up for the next FOTM using the points you farmed with this one, or start using it how it was intended.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 528	Posted - 2013.10.15 16:19:00 - [2] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Needless Sacermendor wrote: If you didn't want to be a Heavy or a HAV driver or a dropship pilot or a logistics, then you made a wrong decision ... if you skilled something that's FOTM, OP or not working as intended and needs balancing/changing for the good of the game then tuff, save up for the next FOTM using the points you farmed with this one, or start using it how it was intended. I know right, it's not like vehicles are being removed, skills are being drastically altered or removed, manditory skills are being added, and AV is getting a complete "balance pass" It's almost as if when our decisions were made, they had nothing to do with CCPs sweeping changes. Wow, figure that. Sorry took a while to respond ... couldn't get on last night. Vehicles are not being removed ... variants are being removed ... if you wanted to fly a dropship you still can, if you wanted to drive a HAV you still can ... it's like saying 'I want a full respec cos they're temporarily removing the tactical variant of the swarm launcher'. Skills being 'drastically' altered is because they are not working as intended ... skills being removed will have those skill points reimbursed like they did when they removed skills in the past. Mandatory skills being added ... I presume you mean there are some pre-requisites being added ... precedent in Eve has been that if you could fly it or use it before, then you will be able to after ... however if you want the bonuses from the new skills you'll have to train them. Not sure what skills you're talking about to be honest, so if you could clarify I could answer that part better. AV is getting a balance pass because vehicles are being changed ... it would be counter-productive to rebuild all the vehicles and their variants based around the values of current AV ... especially since current AV is so out of balance with each other ... AV grenades offer too much potential without significant drawback to a frontline assault fitting, and there are imbalances between the 'proper' AV weapons since Plasma Cannon is useless, swarms and forges do very different damage bonuses to armour and shields and Forges sacrifice very little anti-infantry ability where swarms sacrifice all of it. So OF COURSE av is getting a balance pass at the same time, make the vehicles work properly, then make the AV work properly against them. When MY decisions were made, they were made around the type of role I wanted to fill on the battlefield ... NOT by what everyone else was using and doing well with ... or by what was best on paper ... but by what I enjoyed doing. It's nobody elses fault but your own if you made your decisions based on what would kill people faster, then found out down the line that it needed to be balanced with everything else, yet you didn't like using it beyond the fact it was the fastest way to kill people ... tuff, you should have gone with what you enjoyed and been productive on the forums discussing how to bring it up to standard.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 528	Posted - 2013.10.15 16:24:00 - [3] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Needless Sacermendor wrote: NO to respecs ... YES to Re-allocations !! There that's confused you all ... basically when racial variants come out you are given the option to move ALL your invested sp in say Amarr Heavy dropsuits into one of the other racial Heavy dropsuits ... or move all your Caldari HAV skills points into Minmatar HAV. No need for refunds or respecs ... just need a UI setup like the attribute remap in Eve with sliders to drop points off a Heavy skill and put onto a different Heavy skill or off an AR skill onto another AR skill as and when racial variants are released. If you didn't want to be a Heavy or a HAV driver or a dropship pilot or a logistics, then you made a wrong decision ... if you skilled something that's FOTM, OP or not working as intended and needs balancing/changing for the good of the game then tuff, save up for the next FOTM using the points you farmed with this one, or start using it how it was intended. That would be fine, I dont want a respec to switch to a diff suit/weapon i just want to be able to reallocate the sp i have invested into the only current AR variant into a caldari variant of the same weapon when it is introduced and im sure heavies feel the same, they have been forced to go down the amarr suit route because they havent had any other option since the game was 1st introduced and most heavies would like to reallocate the sp into the variant of suit they wanted in the 1st place .. this really goes for all current weapons suits vehicles .. the whole FoTM issue is one entirely derived from CCP nnot balancing everything properley .. I've played mmo's for over a decade and when things are balanced their isn;t ever an issue of FoTM .. it's only an issue here because certain weapons/suits etc are stronger than other suits/weapons Which is why I think it's the fairest way to go about it ... keeps everyone happy ... apart from the people that just skill the FOTM n they don't warrant any joy, they've already had their joy from pretending they were good !
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 528	Posted - 2013.10.15 16:40:00 - [4] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I went logistics dropship pilot for PC matches full bore with Uprising, then had a legitimate anxiety attack after two weeks of doing everything I possibly could to make them work and burning through nearly 100 million ISK from my year in the Beta Don't ***** talk to me about skilling into ** because I want to kill things Sorry the last paragraph wasn't specifically aimed at you, I ment generally people who use FOTM stuff. I burned through 120 mil isk at the same time cos the Amarr Logistics suit didn't work at anything but proto level. But I brought it up on the forums n they fixed it ... people have brought up many problems with vehicles, so they're fixing them ... your logi dropship will do what it's supposed to do by the time they come back, until then you'll still have a dropship you can fly ... n if that's not what you wanted ... refer to my previous post !