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DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6858	Posted - 2013.10.10 23:10:00 - [1] - Quote This game is about as hard as an egg noodle that's been soaking for a couple of years. Anything that helps noobs get an edge is plenty fine in my book. Oh, and the next full asset and SP refund is right around the corner, so cry away all you fighters of progress and supporters of small player bases.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6858	Posted - 2013.10.10 23:20:00 - [2] - Quote Bethhy wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Bethhy wrote: Respec's are a bad idea and breaks the game. If a respec ever get's offered for sale... it would ruin any depth this game has and make it some shallow bullshit game, Where everyone could do anything. Example of selfish? Yes that's Respec's. This is an opinion, not facts. In my OPINION,the depth would stay AND we would have replay value,something dust needs urgently. That's fact's practiced in every game that has died out. Welcome to gaming, King Checkmate.. take your selfish notion's of a respec and suck it up, go and level. and save up for new additions and changes like everyone else. The SP and skill system isn't some joke... Its what this game is built around, Not something you can just change on whims and "feeling" you should be able to choose different skills for it to be "fair" Hilarious You are aware that we already had a respec after "official release" and that the sky actually didn't explode, right? Wow, shocking, I'm sure. And lmao at so many options, MANY players are already maxed into a few roles and there are actually extremely few roles in this game to begin with. I'm praying you're still new here, or maybe you really are still drinking the punch ::shrugs:: Respecs only hurt egos because the skill tree is painfully shallow as it is. I'm sorry you want to believe that DUST is currently something that it's not, but down here in the real world, the game is still pretty tiny and still in beta. Just because you call a caterpillar a butterfly doesn't make it so.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6859	Posted - 2013.10.10 23:38:00 - [3] - Quote I've argued in this same thread time after time so you all can have at it, just don't be upset when 1.7 comes with a full SP and asset refund in the face of removing 10 vehicles, changing around a ton of vehicle skills, and likely uprooting the whole AV vs Vehicle balance. It doesn't affect me either way because this game is obnoxiously easy in most cases, and you really don't even need proto in anything to stomp anything other than PC (which still is a guaranteed system freeze for me). Respecs or skill reallocation systems are about taking SP that are no longer relevant to you as a player and putting them to better use. Unlike EVE, you only have one style of play in DUST for the most part, kill the other dood. You can't play the market. You can't do PvE. You can't do industry. You can't gank. You can't do PI, scan down ships to rob, hold people ransom, or lock down an entire region of space because you're a prick. You can't mine or scam people (well, I guess you technically can, but nothing like in EVE). You don't have a huge pool of skills to choose from, you don't have tons of ships and weapons unlocked with each skill, you don't have a wide arrays of playstyles to choose from because they simply do not exist. The game is not EVE right now, it's a very pale and distant shadow. Treating a work in progress like a finished product just leads to player burnout and bad press.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6860	Posted - 2013.10.11 02:15:00 - [4] - Quote low genius wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Yesterday I was using the squad finder and got into a match with some pretty laid back guys. We were doing good rolling over waves of Gallente when we started talking about re-specs. I said I wanted one, he didn't because "all the noobs who didn't know how to play the game would get protosuits." So... Some are scared that the common raspberry might be able to shoot back. All I want is to spec out of nades and snipers. i'm against respecs because it would give me all the things that I now wish I had. it takes away the weight of the decisions that you made in your build. you couldn't believe how much worse it would be on new players if you gave everyone respecs. If matchmaking worked it wouldn't effect them in the slightest.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6863	Posted - 2013.10.11 03:04:00 - [5] - Quote After a year and a half of this game I have come to the conclusion that infantry play is horrendously boring and I just want to pour all my points back into vehicles and say **** all you scrubs. Instead I have to sit on all these fits that I don't bother using cuz lolBPOs and lmaoscrubs so there's really no point to at least 8 million of my SP right now. Just sits there. I can't even waddle around the warbarge to show off my fat red eyes anymore.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6865	Posted - 2013.10.11 03:49:00 - [6] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: If you actually thought about it, respecs reduce the replay value extremely. Ok, played with all the Light weapons... Ok, played with all the Heavy weapons... Ok, played with all the Medium Suits... Ok, played with all the Heavy Suits... Ok, Played with all the Light Suits... Ok, played with all the Sidearms... Ok, played with all the Equipment... Now what? Then, all the folks with money to blow on a game come on the forums and complain about the lack of content and so on. It condenses a game, and reduces its replay value because of it. It be like Letting you go to any part of a game with the tools of a the endgame, and go find every secret. So, you found all the secrets? Well, what now? Ok, you played all the classes, what now? Go and play with the class you know exactly on what it does again? I've already done that, without respecs. The game is remarkably small, and there is very little difference between many builds, to the point where it's literally just a few % differences. The game is small, period, respecs do not change that. It's about playing what you like, and not being afraid that whatever you choose might be ripped apart in one of CCPs random balance passes, only to be in a state of limbo for X amount of months while CCP tries to figure out how to fix their fix.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6865	Posted - 2013.10.11 04:10:00 - [7] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Yes, and Respecs shorten that Short game even more. You know what shortens the game? Sitting on a bunch of SP that you don't use anymore. It shortens it by making all that SP irrelevant and thusly making you grind away for the chance to be exactly where you already are. Oh joy, how exciting. (aka, faster burnout, adding to our already dwindling numbers)

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