Yun Hee Ryeon
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Posted - 2013.10.10 18:47:00 -
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Eve's is a noir setting; morality's a central theme, but corruption (of one sort or another) is ubiquitous. Everybody's human, which is an indictment, of sorts.
Tony G is not a good resource for cultural comparisons in Eve; his vision of New Eden is pretty melodramatic, and his approach to making the setting "dark" is to make the Gallente the only good guys (who survive the book, anyway).
He also has displayed a flagrant disregard for cannon. His novella "Ruthless" is supposed to be about the creation of a new Caldari battleship. Which is the new ship and which is the old war horse? Well, to read the in-game descriptions, the Scorpion's the fancy new boat.
"The first Scorpion-class battleship was launched only a couple of years ago, and those that have been built are considered to be prototypes."
It's right there in the item description.
Tony G's rendition is precisely reversed: the Scorpion is the old war horse. I guess he liked the Raven better.
If you're mining for lore, I recommend the chronicles, the scientific articles, and The Burning Life. I know Tony G is officially canon, but because of his inconsistency with the universe I require secondary citation for any lore sourced from him. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
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Posted - 2013.10.12 05:46:00 -
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Sigh.
Folks, let's please remember that this is a fictional universe and a noir setting. Virtually everybody's corrupt in some way or other. The game's utopians (Sansha's Nation) are so twisted they're the equivalent of the freaking Borg. By the same token, even the most barbaric groups often show a surprising depth of humanity.
Among the four empires, the Amarr happen to show their darkness, by our standards, in particularly vivid colors, combining both some of the brighter and darker aspects of the Roman Empire and Spanish conquistadors, glory blended with horrid abuse.
Of course, the Minmatar, as a culture, have gotten so carried away with rage that they sent dreadnoughts against an ally to try to retrieve one man, the Caldari are about six meters (six important meters) from being fascists, and the Gallente have a military adventurist streak that matches their streak of self-righteousness and are the only empire to have ever actually BECOME verifiably flat-out fascist.
Let's also please remember that, Tony G the melodramatist aside, these are nation states we are talking about. Jamyl Sarum could be coalesced evil incarnate, and the average Amarrian citizen would still just be a person, with good points and bad, probably religious and probably disagreeing with us, sitting here, now, about a lot of stuff, but almost certainly possessing a conscience and more concerned with making a living and keeping the family fed and clothed than with interstellar politics.
To my fellow roleplayers: some of you are talking in character. I highly recommend cutting it out; this isn't the place and it's no skin off your nose whether people think of your faction as evil, OOC. (Among other things, many folks like rooting for the bad guys.) Furthermore, answering in character won't change whether people think of the Amarr as evil; at most, you can demonstrate that they don't consider themselves evil, which was pretty obvious from the get-go. Few people do, even when they're horrendously wrong about a great many things.
Welcome to a world of swirling grays. This is Eve. This is noir. There are no true heroes. Everyone is tainted. Nobody is pure. If you think you're pure, you're probably a villain because of it.
Good luck. |