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Void Echo
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.11 17:23:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:KA24DERT wrote:Enslaving, expansionist, religious zealots? The Amarr empire is by far the worst. Ha you should look around New Eden. We are the only things holding back half the Sani Sabik Cults from Empire space. Those are the really bad people. Fanatics with no sense of a forgiving God, who would happily blood children and clones for their barbaric and debased rituals, those who would affect your minds with implants and technologies to make you a part of the Hive Mind. We clothe and feed our slaves, we love and care for them as no one else in this vast cluster would, or could. We try to educate our peoples to the right paths, to make them whole in God's eyes so that they shall not sin against their creator and damn their selves for eternity. Shall I bring up the extremist Caldari who bombed an underwater Gallentean city, killing Billions. Sansha's Nation who take captives to the Darkest regions of space to do god knows what. Shall I mention the lawless Angel Cartel, so deep in corruption and murder that they cannot see the light. And you wish to call us, who wish only the best of intentions, the unity of mankind, and the formations of One galaxy spanning people are evil. You are ignorant and have no knowledge of the universe. I can only hope one day the Matari see that and cast you out as you deserve.
you hold the title of the worst empire mainly because your the only openly religious biased based society in the game that is playable by people |
Void Echo
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
1728
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Posted - 2013.10.11 17:38:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:The Jove (non sleeping Sleepers) are all dead. Last one went the way of the Dodo about 4 years ago. Some still 'live' in the matrix tho.
you have no proof of that, its exactly like an experiment I heard about...
when a guy put his cat inside a box, he added in some uranium to see if it would stay alive... now since he could not see the cat from outside the box, the cat was nether dead nor was it alive because there was no way to figure it out without opening the box, same can be said about the jove. |
Void Echo
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
1728
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Posted - 2013.10.11 17:41:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Christiphoros von Poe wrote:The Jove are still alive and in physical space... They are just extreme isolationists. Most of their race is in suspended animation though. Honestly, if it wasn't for the Jovian Disease, they could wipe out all 4 factions. The main priority for the Jove is finding a cure for their disease, not starting wars or expanding their space. Sorry bud, but actual living, breathing, intractable Jove are dead, the EVE canon book Templar One confirms it. There are billions in stasis, 'living' in a virtual world they constructed in hopes to stave off extinction.
if they are in stasis, they are not dead, just prolonging their lives...
there is a difference between stasis and death you know |
Void Echo
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
1728
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Posted - 2013.10.11 18:10:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Void Echo wrote: you hold the title of the worst empire mainly because your the only openly religious biased based society in the game that is playable by people. .
Hmm, if that is so, was all of 1400's Europe evil? Because...you know....it was all catholic and biased as such.... What has real life modern society come to if people are equating "religious society" to "evil"? Smh
its not the religious society that has granted you the title, it is your methods, much like the Christian crusades and the current muslim jihad.
the main goal may be of good will, but your image will be forever tainted by your methods.
people outside of the Christian faith saw the crusades as nothing but mindless killing much like how we outside of the empire see your war against the minmitar to be. Christian faith holders saw it as an upbringing to other people, either they accept god or they burn forever in hell, much like you amarr beliefs.
but the muslim example is far worse.
they see anyone who doesn't join their religion to be non-human and will not hesitate to kill anyone in their way.. all in the name of their god, much like the amarr...
basically, the amarr are the combination of the past Christianity and the current islam. however, they do not see themselves as that, much like how the past Christians did not see themselves as biased murderers and the current muslim extremists see themselves as holy warriors.
main difference between all 3 is that Christianity never had slaves and was in fact created by slaves, the muslims just kill and take no prisoners unless they convert, the amarr take slaves and convert them. |
Void Echo
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
1728
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Posted - 2013.10.11 18:18:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Void Echo wrote: you hold the title of the worst empire mainly because your the only openly religious biased based society in the game that is playable by people. .
Hmm, if that is so, was all of 1400's Europe evil? Because...you know....it was all catholic and biased as such....
1400s Europe was evil to those outside of their beliefs. |
Void Echo
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
1728
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Posted - 2013.10.11 18:50:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Except First Prophet has no clue what he's talking about. Keep making up ridiculous lies and maybe people will start to believe them? How dare you, sir. I know exactly what I'm saying. I've read this sht. I've never once said such thing about you, why would you ever say that to me? I thought we were friends. You Amarr always leave us in tears.
because hes amarr, and the amarr have the biggest diehard fanbois over every other race in dust.
a lot like the "beliebers" |
Void Echo
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
1728
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Posted - 2013.10.11 18:52:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:no offense to any1 here.
but i say religion is idiotic.
corruption is everywhere.
what ppl should be fighting is corruption..
we have the good. the evil.
and the corrupt.
which are attached to all other factions.
im siding with galente mostly because they have the best looking symbol.
although i do like the caldari medium dropsuit.
i prefer my armor instead of shields.
at least with religion you have something to look forward to after death, with atheism you don't have anything after life. "we become the earth and trees", yeah but your not self conscious at all. |
Void Echo
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
1728
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:38:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:lol what? People still to this day judge Christians off actions of a few made some hudreds of years ago? And no, not all Christians supported crusades, that's just silly to even suggest. But yeah, let's forever judge Christians as mindless murders just as we should forever judge say a country like Germany as mindless murders?
because today we live in a society that has 0 tolerance for violence of any kind whether it be defense or assault, all past actions committed by the human species that involves mass genocide are very much frowned upon. sane people do not blame others that are alive today for their ancestors actions. id also like to point out that you let out the muslims on this post, when in fact their religion does say to kill and annihilate any and all non-believers until only they are left.
Aero Yassavi wrote:Also Christianity is based around serving your fellow man, and Amarr slavery isn't really far off. Don't be confused with 17th/18th century slavery, that is not at all what is happening here. Think of it more as an indentured servitude to help bring these raises up to a high standard of living.
slavery is still slavery, no matter if its violent or non-violent as I already said, slavery has always been and will always be a word that people associate fully with oppression, genocide and plain cruelty towards another group or individual. nobody is going to change the definition of the word slavery just because a group of people that don't even exist on earth do not use slavery as we know it, it doesn't work like that. if that what you believe, then instead of calling it slavery you rename it something like reeducation, not slavery.
Aero Yassavi wrote:Again, you are associating "slavery" with "evil" because you are looking at 17th/18th century slavery on Earth. Slavery in Amarr is not a harsh, brutal, or violent lifestyle at all. It is entirely an upbringing, as these slaves will very quickly become full citizens of the empire. Anyone found acting with disrespect towards the slaves is a criminal by imperial law, so how is it fair to judge an entire empire off a small handful of criminals? Hey, I saw in the news earlier that some dude in America killed some other dude. Guess that means America stands for citizens killing citizens.
slavery no matter violent or non-violent is still slavery, we also have sex slavery and human trafficking basically another form of slavery.. it does not matter if a certain individual does something bad, if the entire community basically openly advocates the method used, then they are forever marked by it. your also confusing beliefs with actions. the actions of an individual do not represent the whole unless the whole openly says that's what they believe. again, the world is not going to change the definition of slavery just because you people do not use it in the way we are used to, mainly because you don't even exist in the real world. |
Void Echo
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
1728
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:44:00 -
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Phazoid wrote:hey we offer people the oportunity to be integrated into the amarr culture, they need to pass some sort of trial known as slavery, to gain full social status and be recognized as amarr, also we have slaverhounds, big hyena-like dogs, very lovable, but they eat people so dont forget to feed them or you may be they next lunch, on another note i support everything BUT the religion in the amarr regime, it just blinds people, also as we expand we offer more people to join us, other races just kill eveyone or use them as pow, we enslave them, but with the very real posibility of full amar social status.
amarr version of offering something: full invasion of said society and complete and near annihilation of the civilization, kidnapping its citizens and taking them where they will never leave.
il go with the normal version of the word offering.
im glad I openly oppose and fight you hypocrites.. however the only amarrian I like to debate against is adamance. |
Void Echo
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
1728
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:49:00 -
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Honestly the main topic that shows how weak amarr is, is the jove war.
When you amarrians found the jove, they were in a weakened state due to their crippling disease that they are still trying to find a cure for, you saw opportunity to take them over and attempted to destroy them. you failed, miserably I might add and ran back to your home planet with your tails up your asses. if they weren't so weakened by their disease at the time, you would offered to become allies like you did with the caldari in hopes and plans that one day in the future, when they are weak, you would make your move.
the only thing keeping you from attacking the caldari is the fact that they have a powerful military capable to defeating you in an all out war if we aren't fighting them. |
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Void Echo
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
1729
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Posted - 2013.10.11 23:34:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: ((That's and opinion you have there and no one gave you the right to judge anyone else or anything else, however I think the distinctions come in here, with a doubt standard applying to the Amarr, with a tradition of belief in an almighty god, thousands of years of entitlement is something that I think makes them act in the ways they do, the honestly believe that the are sanctions by a higher power to do what must be done to unite the galaxy whether this is right or wrong is not important only that people understand why it is done. More often than not Void/Prophet you know the what for's and hows but never bothered to acknowledge the why's.))
there is only one "why", you do it because you say your god demands it. |
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