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21yrOld Knight Pradox One 168	Posted - 2013.10.08 02:48:00 - [1] - Quote Every once in a while i find a Pilot that says being a merc is easy. That it requires no skill or that any one can shoot a gun. When i see this i laugh. I mean you can do a lot but you can't do what i do. You can't dodge an enemy squad of 6 then kill them all. You can't square off against a heavy and win. I must say one thing's true you will GO 514 before your 2nd battle. I have my immortality not because i can be a fancy mail man, not because I can shoot lasers at rocks, and certainly not for being confined in a chair all day. I earn my immortality because i am a skilled killer, because i can commit acts of destruction with out thinking about it. I can run up to my enemy and brutality stab in the face after ripping his mask off. I can charge a point fearless killing my enemies not giving one thought about dying. I can personally kill someone not from space through a strike of some sorts, but face to face. I get to see my prey face of terror when the crumple. So I must ask do you think that capsuleers can do our jobs.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2673	Posted - 2013.10.08 02:55:00 - [2] - Quote Nor is it easy to do what they do. But yes you are right, many mercs in the field are pretty poorly untrained and new to the mercenary life.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2050	Posted - 2013.10.08 04:24:00 - [3] - Quote When I hear them say things like that I invite them to step out of their pods and join us on the field, as you can expect not one of them has taken me up on the offer. I suppose if you could kill me by poking me with a pillow I might hesitate as well.
Maximia Beflas Derringer Defenses 1	Posted - 2013.10.08 05:06:00 - [4] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Nor is it easy to do what they do. But yes you are right, many mercs in the field are pretty poorly untrained and new to the mercenary life. Exactly! This isn't a matter of "who's stronger, who's better". We are all trained and molded into our own fates we decide. A capsuleer pilots and navigates in space, us mercenaries lay combat and change the tides of planets with our boots and guns. No job is unnecessary, and no job is the better. A capsuleer probably won't stand much of a chance against a well trained mercenary, and a mercenary will be lost amongst the spreadsheets, gizmos, and intricacy of a pilots life! It's the way it is.
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2192	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:21:00 - [5] - Quote Maximia Beflas wrote: True Adamance wrote: Nor is it easy to do what they do. But yes you are right, many mercs in the field are pretty poorly untrained and new to the mercenary life. Exactly! This isn't a matter of "who's stronger, who's better". We are all trained and molded into our own fates we decide. A capsuleer pilots and navigates in space, us mercenaries lay combat and change the tides of planets with our boots and guns. No job is unnecessary, and no job is the better. A capsuleer probably won't stand much of a chance against a well trained mercenary, and a mercenary will be lost amongst the spreadsheets, gizmos, and intricacy of a pilots life! It's the way it is. Each could always be taught the others trade. Both have an eternity to learn...
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 500	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:24:00 - [6] - Quote Maximia Beflas wrote: True Adamance wrote: Nor is it easy to do what they do. But yes you are right, many mercs in the field are pretty poorly untrained and new to the mercenary life. Exactly! This isn't a matter of "who's stronger, who's better". We are all trained and molded into our own fates we decide. A capsuleer pilots and navigates in space, us mercenaries lay combat and change the tides of planets with our boots and guns. No job is unnecessary, and no job is the better. A capsuleer probably won't stand much of a chance against a well trained mercenary, and a mercenary will be lost amongst the spreadsheets, gizmos, and intricacy of a pilots life! It's the way it is. And the interfaces with the capsuleer and clone soldier implants are incompatible with each other, that's why no clone soldier can be a capsuleer or vice versa.
Damus Trifarn The Yellow Lantern Corps 36	Posted - 2013.10.09 02:13:00 - [7] - Quote Bickering between the two groups will always continue, but the reality is this: We face the furies of war on the cold heights and valleys of rock. They face the furies of war in the cold abyss of an empty, black void. Both choices are riddled with physical and mental strains that can drive the mind into madness and the soul into a husk. I have nothing but respect for the fight the capsuleers choose to have, and many of them respect our fight. There will always those mercs and capsuleers who are arrogant enough to believe they can do both, but that is their own stupidity and undoing. For those arrogant enough to claim the ability to fight on both fronts, I can only ask them one thing: why would you ever subject your soul to the savage realities of both lives?
Rinas Rylos Rinas' Raiders 64	Posted - 2013.10.09 02:39:00 - [8] - Quote Damus Trifarn wrote: For those arrogant enough to claim the ability to fight on both fronts, I can only ask them one thing: why would you ever subject your soul to the savage realities of both lives? God, no thank you. I kill enough people per day without heading out into space and murdering my way through cruisers and transports and everything else they're flying up there, thank you very much. Besides, at least the people I kill come back. And yes, I know those flying sky bastards come back too, but their crews don't.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2722	Posted - 2013.10.09 02:41:00 - [9] - Quote Rinas Rylos wrote: Damus Trifarn wrote: For those arrogant enough to claim the ability to fight on both fronts, I can only ask them one thing: why would you ever subject your soul to the savage realities of both lives? God, no thank you. I kill enough people per day without heading out into space and murdering my way through cruisers and transports and everything else they're flying up there, thank you very much. Besides, at least the people I kill come back. And yes, I know those flying sky bastards come back too, but their crews don't. I am well informed of the tribulations a capsuleer must endure, though I dare say Soren, my patron, does not suffer in his service. "The Lord's work is not something to shirk" As the old adage goes
Damus Trifarn The Yellow Lantern Corps 38	Posted - 2013.10.09 02:57:00 - [10] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Rinas Rylos wrote: Damus Trifarn wrote: For those arrogant enough to claim the ability to fight on both fronts, I can only ask them one thing: why would you ever subject your soul to the savage realities of both lives? God, no thank you. I kill enough people per day without heading out into space and murdering my way through cruisers and transports and everything else they're flying up there, thank you very much. Besides, at least the people I kill come back. And yes, I know those flying sky bastards come back too, but their crews don't. I am well informed of the tribulations a capsuleer must endure, though I dare say Soren, my patron, does not suffer in his service. "The Lord's work is not something to shirk" As the old adage goes I look on those that make their grim work enjoyable with a curiosity and speculation. I find the concept of enjoying such a cruel way of life appalling, and yet it is interesting to see how their minds have been able to overcome the stresses of war (I am not implying that your associate is psychotic; I am merely looking back at my experiences with some capsuleers) That being said, I have found that it is more prudent to loathe the work and embrace the fellowship of those you work with. I may not like having to mow down foes with a Boundless HMG, but I can enjoy the thankful remarks of my friends that I saved by doing so. Such an encouragement is a continuous supply of morale that gives my mind strength to fight the depression of combat and sharpens my senses to make the kill happen.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2723	Posted - 2013.10.09 03:03:00 - [11] - Quote Damus Trifarn wrote: True Adamance wrote: Rinas Rylos wrote: Damus Trifarn wrote: For those arrogant enough to claim the ability to fight on both fronts, I can only ask them one thing: why would you ever subject your soul to the savage realities of both lives? God, no thank you. I kill enough people per day without heading out into space and murdering my way through cruisers and transports and everything else they're flying up there, thank you very much. Besides, at least the people I kill come back. And yes, I know those flying sky bastards come back too, but their crews don't. I am well informed of the tribulations a capsuleer must endure, though I dare say Soren, my patron, does not suffer in his service. "The Lord's work is not something to shirk" As the old adage goes I look on those that make their grim work enjoyable with a curiosity and speculation. I find the concept of enjoying such a cruel way of life appalling, and yet it is interesting to see how their minds have been able to overcome the stresses of war (I am not implying that your associate is psychotic; I am merely looking back at my experiences with some capsuleers) That being said, I have found that it is more prudent to loathe the work and embrace the fellowship of those you work with. I may not like having to mow down foes with a Boundless HMG, but I can enjoy the thankful remarks of my friends that I saved by doing so. Such an encouragement is a continuous supply of morale that gives my mind strength to fight the depression of combat and sharpens my senses to make the kill happen. It is not grim to take solace in the Lord, for the Lord is hope. I do not enjoy the kill in my day to day life, but I see it as a necessity. God's will is absolute, and I am dedicated to my cause.
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 305	Posted - 2013.10.09 05:04:00 - [12] - Quote Damus Trifarn wrote: I look on those that make their grim work enjoyable with a curiosity and speculation. I find the concept of enjoying such a cruel way of life appalling, and yet it is interesting to see how their minds have been able to overcome the stresses of war (I am not implying that your associate is psychotic; I am merely looking back at my experiences with some capsuleers) There do seem to be capsuleers who enjoy pursuing conventional spacecraft, the means by which many a combat pilot's bread is buttered. An experienced capsuleer becomes a weapon of mass destruction; there may be some satisfaction in this. But the difference in power makes it analogous to hunting sub-sapient species in a planetary wilderness. A far greater joy-- and it is one more common, even inherent, to us than it is to them-- is the hunt for one's peers. There is something primal and addictive in the hunt and the kill, the test of skill and cunning. Experience that even once, and it is difficult to find much joy in hunting weaker victims. It makes the mere murder that is day-to-day capsuleer combat work seem ... ... downright herbivorous, really. Like grazing on grass, or mining. Appalling or not, this sort of fratricidal bloodlust is a motivating force behind much of the capsuleer economy. Quote: That being said, I have found that it is more prudent to loathe the work and embrace the fellowship of those you work with. I may not like having to mow down foes with a Boundless HMG, but I can enjoy the thankful remarks of my friends that I saved by doing so. Such an encouragement is a continuous supply of morale that gives my mind strength to fight the depression of combat and sharpens my senses to make the kill happen. Prudent, perhaps. And ... sometimes I do try not to enjoy it-- not to ... smile, as I prepare to vent a knife's plasma charge through the spine of a fellow "immortal" soldier. Though, really, if I did not enjoy the work, I think I would have to retire. I'm not sure you want someone like me on the loose in the civilian population.
Damus Trifarn The Yellow Lantern Corps 39	Posted - 2013.10.10 00:24:00 - [13] - Quote Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: Damus Trifarn wrote: I look on those that make their grim work enjoyable with a curiosity and speculation. I find the concept of enjoying such a cruel way of life appalling, and yet it is interesting to see how their minds have been able to overcome the stresses of war (I am not implying that your associate is psychotic; I am merely looking back at my experiences with some capsuleers) There do seem to be capsuleers who enjoy pursuing conventional spacecraft, the means by which many a combat pilot's bread is buttered. An experienced capsuleer becomes a weapon of mass destruction; there may be some satisfaction in this. But the difference in power makes it analogous to hunting sub-sapient species in a planetary wilderness. A far greater joy-- and it is one more common, even inherent, to us than it is to them-- is the hunt for one's peers. There is something primal and addictive in the hunt and the kill, the test of skill and cunning. Experience that even once, and it is difficult to find much joy in hunting weaker victims. It makes the mere murder that is day-to-day capsuleer combat work seem ... ... downright herbivorous, really. Like grazing on grass, or mining. Appalling or not, this sort of fratricidal bloodlust is a motivating force behind much of the capsuleer economy. Quote: That being said, I have found that it is more prudent to loathe the work and embrace the fellowship of those you work with. I may not like having to mow down foes with a Boundless HMG, but I can enjoy the thankful remarks of my friends that I saved by doing so. Such an encouragement is a continuous supply of morale that gives my mind strength to fight the depression of combat and sharpens my senses to make the kill happen. Prudent, perhaps. And ... sometimes I do try not to enjoy it-- not to ... smile, as I prepare to vent a knife's plasma charge through the spine of a fellow "immortal" soldier. Though, really, if I did not enjoy the work, I think I would have to retire. I'm not sure you want someone like me on the loose in the civilian population. I have no doubt the feeling of accomplishment in any field is something the human mind enjoys, but I always watch for the motive of a person to achieve anything. Is it the admirable zeal of a faithful Amarr such as Adamance, or the quest for a prosperous and successful Republic bound by kinship that I and so many other Matari seek? Maybe there are those in the Federation that seek a resurgence in credibility among their government, or a Caldari soldier fighting for the prosperity of his nation. These are all noble, and many other causes are admirable. The problem I have is when a motive for accomplishment in our line of work is the work itself, when we begin to kill for the sake of killing. I have also smiled and shouted for joy even in the midst of combat, for the relief that comes when the fighting is over is uplifting to me. I would, however, prefer that the fight never had to happen. Those that would love for the fight to continue so that they may continue to partake in their enjoyable killing sprees, in my opinion, have lost something higher in their person, and have let war drag them to their basic instincts. Maybe I am being too judgmental, but I have seen too many terrors take place with mercs that have this mindset, and I'd prefer to not witness them again.
Demel Derpovsky Derringer Defenses 16	Posted - 2013.10.10 04:20:00 - [14] - Quote Damus Trifarn wrote: I have no doubt the feeling of accomplishment in any field is something the human mind enjoys, but I always watch for the motive of a person to achieve anything. Is it the admirable zeal of a faithful Amarr such as Adamance, or the quest for a prosperous and successful Republic bound by kinship that I and so many other Matari seek? Maybe there are those in the Federation that seek a resurgence in credibility among their government, or a Caldari soldier fighting for the prosperity of his nation. These are all noble, and many other causes are admirable. The problem I have is when a motive for accomplishment in our line of work is the work itself, when we begin to kill for the sake of killing. I have also smiled and shouted for joy even in the midst of combat, for the relief that comes when the fighting is over is uplifting to me. I would, however, prefer that the fight never had to happen. Those that would love for the fight to continue so that they may continue to partake in their enjoyable killing sprees, in my opinion, have lost something higher in their person, and have let war drag them to their basic instincts. Maybe I am being too judgmental, but I have seen too many terrors take place with mercs that have this mindset, and I'd prefer to not witness them again. I don't know, that was the life I accepted. I knew I would partake in the raffle and the bloodshed, spraying both like leaves on a warm, green day. This world we live in is nothing but dominance, if you are at the bottom, good luck; if you are the top, don't go to the bottom. We, demi-gods of "Lazarus" flesh, blood, and bone are the dominant, a dominant made to fight, to contest and spill each others throats. The world revolves around an eternally moving machine, fueled by blood, bullets, and currency. It breathes luxury and pleasure into our lungs, and preaches words of greed. We are bound to this machine.
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 307	Posted - 2013.10.10 05:16:00 - [15] - Quote Mr. Trifarn: The Templar Crusader acts as he believes is right; so do many others, seemingly including yourself. Respectfully, does this grant you absolution for the harm you inflict? Perhaps time will tell. Certainly, you are stronger, more focused, than the lost, or those who so badly want us to believe they are lost that they throw boxes of kittens out of airlocks. Really, I wonder how many of us are actually lost. We are capable of atrocity, certainly, but that is mostly a matter of frailties common to much of humanity. For my own part, I am content to channel my damaged soul toward constructive ends. The question for me is not whether I am "noble," but whether I serve a purpose beyond my own fractured existence-- whether I am useful. To return to the original topic of discussion: I'm sure many capsuleers could, briefly, do what we do. Some had background as ground soldiers before entering the academies, or come from elite backgrounds such as the Khanid cyberknights. Many of our weapons occupy the outer edges of what even enhanced soldiers might use, but, still, no doubt a few could still perform passably. What they would not do, is survive the experience. Capsuleer emergency cloning is dependant on the availability of a capsule and, more importantly, its onboard cloning rig. It is rare for the vast majority of us to walk away from a battle without at least one death. A capsuleer who walks into one of our conflicts is unlikely to walk away again.
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 307	Posted - 2013.10.10 05:27:00 - [16] - Quote Demel Derpovsky wrote: I don't know, that was the life I accepted. I knew I would partake in the raffle and the bloodshed, spraying both like leaves on a warm, green day. This world we live in is nothing but dominance, if you are at the bottom, good luck; if you are the top, don't go to the bottom. We, demi-gods of "Lazarus" flesh, blood, and bone are the dominant, a dominant made to fight, to contest and spill each others throats. There is truth in this. It is only a fragment, however. Be careful, soldier. A fragment of truth is more treacherous than a lie. Quote: The world revolves around an eternally moving machine, fueled by blood, bullets, and currency. It breathes luxury and pleasure into our lungs, and preaches words of greed. We are bound to this machine. Tch. The game of material gain, one of the largest civilization plays with itself so as to order itself. It is one of the most obvious illusions, and yet we forget so easily: beyond the reality we give it by our consent, it isn't real.
Damus Trifarn The Yellow Lantern Corps 39	Posted - 2013.10.16 01:46:00 - [17] - Quote Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: Mr. Trifarn: The Templar Crusader acts as he believes is right; so do many others, seemingly including yourself. Respectfully, does this grant you absolution for the harm you inflict? Perhaps time will tell. Certainly, you are stronger, more focused, than the lost, or those who so badly want us to believe they are lost that they throw boxes of kittens out of airlocks. Really, I wonder how many of us are actually lost. We are capable of atrocity, certainly, but that is mostly a matter of frailties common to much of humanity. For my own part, I am content to channel my damaged soul toward constructive ends. The question for me is not whether I am "noble," but whether I serve a purpose beyond my own fractured existence-- whether I am useful. To return to the original topic of discussion: I'm sure many capsuleers could, briefly, do what we do. Some had background as ground soldiers before entering the academies, or come from elite backgrounds such as the Khanid cyberknights. Many of our weapons occupy the outer edges of what even enhanced soldiers might use, but, still, no doubt a few could still perform passably. What they would not do, is survive the experience. Capsuleer emergency cloning is dependant on the availability of a capsule and, more importantly, its onboard cloning rig. It is rare for the vast majority of us to walk away from a battle without at least one death. A capsuleer who walks into one of our conflicts is unlikely to walk away again. I do not believe I am above judgement for the things I have done, for we all are human and all have had moments where they succumb to the darker possibilities of the soul. I am merely trying to offer insight from my past experiences. If time will tell, it will be a very long story, for the supply of our mortal vessels is only increasing. Until we run out of clones I anticipate that time will tell a library's worth of stories about our lives and our ventures.
Dante Gheinok Speakersof Truth 1	Posted - 2013.10.16 03:23:00 - [18] - Quote For the Capsuleers who think they can do what we do I say this ..... I was a trained baseline combat pilot before I became an Immortal Clone. I can still pilot, who of them will unpod and help me take back control of the gun turret that is keeping the squad pinned down?
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3169	Posted - 2013.10.16 03:32:00 - [19] - Quote Dante Gheinok wrote: For the Capsuleers who think they can do what we do I say this ..... I was a trained baseline combat pilot before I became an Immortal Clone. I can still pilot, who of them will unpod and help me take back control of the gun turret that is keeping the squad pinned down? (( Lore wise we cannot have both the Capsuleer Implants as well as the current generation of Clone mercenary implants....))
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 323	Posted - 2013.10.16 03:50:00 - [20] - Quote Damus Trifarn wrote: I do not believe I am above judgement for the things I have done, for we all are human and all have had moments where they succumb to the darker possibilities of the soul. I am merely trying to offer insight from my past experiences. If time will tell, it will be a very long story, for the supply of our mortal vessels is only increasing. Until we run out of clones I anticipate that time will tell a library's worth of stories about our lives and our ventures. Our humanity at this stage is debatable, Mr. Trifarn. We meet many definitions of it, but we have become detached from what's commonly known as the "human condition," notably the bits involving death. Reversing that observation, it's unlikely that most of us will be able to enjoy that bounty of time. Capsuleers last six months on average-- scarcely an eternity. At a guess, our average careers will be much shorter; death for capsuleers is both less traumatic and less common. True Adamance wrote: Dante Gheinok wrote: For the Capsuleers who think they can do what we do I say this ..... I was a trained baseline combat pilot before I became an Immortal Clone. I can still pilot, who of them will unpod and help me take back control of the gun turret that is keeping the squad pinned down? (( Lore wise we cannot have both the Capsuleer Implants as well as the current generation of Clone mercenary implants....)) ((Trained baseline pilot-- standard issue human being, meaning he is not and never was a capsuleer.)) The difference between being a baseline pilot and a pod captain is the difference between flying in a ship versus being a ship, and flying, Mr. Gheinok. Please let's not cheapen their experience just because they don't seem to understand ours.

Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1218	Posted - 2013.10.16 10:23:00 - [21] - Quote 'lights a cigar, puts in mouth' I have a twin, whom is also named Godin. We have discussed this same topic, as he is a Cap', while I'm a merc'. We think we know why they think they are superior; it's the ISK. Since they have much better ways of making ISK than us, they can have much more ISK than us, which makes them feel superior. Plus, they sit in big ass ships with giant guns all day, so they feel more powerful than us. But soon, we will have ways of making those ******* suffer.... 'blows smoke out of nose'
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 284	Posted - 2013.10.19 09:31:00 - [22] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Maximia Beflas wrote: True Adamance wrote: Nor is it easy to do what they do. But yes you are right, many mercs in the field are pretty poorly untrained and new to the mercenary life. Exactly! This isn't a matter of "who's stronger, who's better". We are all trained and molded into our own fates we decide. A capsuleer pilots and navigates in space, us mercenaries lay combat and change the tides of planets with our boots and guns. No job is unnecessary, and no job is the better. A capsuleer probably won't stand much of a chance against a well trained mercenary, and a mercenary will be lost amongst the spreadsheets, gizmos, and intricacy of a pilots life! It's the way it is. Each could always be taught the others trade. Both have an eternity to learn... We cannot learn their trade and they cannot learn ours. For them immortality is tied to the pod, they cannot ever be too far away for if they are they will not be able to be cloned and they will die. We however can never die, our brains are different and our mind is scanned by an implant inside our own brain. However the technology to be able to do this makes us incompatible with current capsule technology. Our implants come from sleeper technology. If a dust merc were to helm a ship even with training it would still be much slower than a capsuleer piloted ship, to them the ship itself is their body. Their will causes it to function, even though they may have crews, the crew for even the largest ships would not be able to pilot a cruiser, they are there to support the capusleer, primarily through reloading guns and unjamming equipment. If a eve pilot decided to Don our suits he would most likely be barely able to lift his arms in even a scout suit. Let alone interface with it. On a ship the ship's systems allow the pilot to only get the data needed for his tacnet. Out tacnet however is handled by our own brain. A pod jockey would be overwhelemed by the sheer amount of information fed to him every second and would most likely pass out from information overload.
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 332	Posted - 2013.10.19 13:56:00 - [23] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: Our implants come from sleeper technology. I keep hearing this, but while it stands to reason I haven't been able to get it verified. ((As far as I know, CCP's never clarified whether this bit of lore is IC knowledge.))
Damus Trifarn The Yellow Lantern Corps 39	Posted - 2013.10.19 16:43:00 - [24] - Quote Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: Damus Trifarn wrote: I do not believe I am above judgement for the things I have done, for we all are human and all have had moments where they succumb to the darker possibilities of the soul. I am merely trying to offer insight from my past experiences. If time will tell, it will be a very long story, for the supply of our mortal vessels is only increasing. Until we run out of clones I anticipate that time will tell a library's worth of stories about our lives and our ventures. Our humanity at this stage is debatable, Mr. Trifarn. We meet many definitions of it, but we have become detached from what's commonly known as the "human condition," notably the bits involving death. Reversing that observation, it's unlikely that most of us will be able to enjoy that bounty of time. Capsuleers last six months on average-- scarcely an eternity. At a guess, our average careers will be much shorter; death for capsuleers is both less traumatic and less common. [ True, our humanity has been.... altered. Still, I believe that the concept of humanity remains alive even in us because we are using our immortality for very human reasons. Idealists, criminals, pragmatists, and maniacs use their immortality to accomplish the same goals they has as a mortal, but with an extended amount of time. Most of the clones of the first generations were indeed destroyed mentally by the implants, but over time technology is increasing our ability to remain mentally intact despite immortality. I believe that while our mortality is altered, our human nature is indifferent to immortality, or even enhanced. As time wears on our minds, I believe we will begin to see the effects of too much time, and many will despair when they have accomplished all they want in life, only to know that there is even more to live out. That being said, I hope you are right that this 'immortality' will prove to be finite.
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 324	Posted - 2013.10.25 00:58:00 - [25] - Quote Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: SgtDoughnut wrote: Our implants come from sleeper technology. I keep hearing this, but while it stands to reason I haven't been able to get it verified. ((As far as I know, CCP's never clarified whether this bit of lore is IC knowledge.)) If you read templar 1 it says that all the implants come from sleeper tech. Also the video shows the ship pulling up to a sleeper base in WH space.
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 338	Posted - 2013.10.25 01:03:00 - [26] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: SgtDoughnut wrote: Our implants come from sleeper technology. I keep hearing this, but while it stands to reason I haven't been able to get it verified. ((As far as I know, CCP's never clarified whether this bit of lore is IC knowledge.)) If you read templar 1 it says that all the implants come from sleeper tech. Also the video shows the ship pulling up to a sleeper base in WH space. ((I know. The fact that Tony G wrote it and the video shows it does NOT mean that our characters have a clue.))
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3620	Posted - 2013.10.25 03:50:00 - [27] - Quote (( we really have to hammer home what is and isn't play knowledge when we RP. I am sick of people bringing up things to do with the Empress when most mercenaries would have no clue what she is or isn't like having never met or heard of these things.))
exolden shadovar Iron Havok 16	Posted - 2013.11.08 11:58:00 - [28] - Quote ...right like thier job is hard. alota them just use a drone army...hell heard a few even use the drone to pilot their ships. ((havent been here in awhile oo thought i drop some meta rp statement for da luls. p.s Russian botters need to die in a fire))
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 97	Posted - 2013.11.16 19:42:00 - [29] - Quote While we have the classic features of a human being, weaklings that they are, how can us mercs be considered them anymore? Yes we die, but we never cease to exist. The lesser ones get one chance, we get infinite. If a normal human tried to pick up our guns (let alone a capsuleer), they'd hurt themselves. If they didn't, as soon as they fired, they'd melt their skin. Have you looked at the temperature regulator in our dropsuits? I have and the air around us is superheated. And I's like to see a single human pick up an HMG by himself, like we can. I know, I know, we have an exoskeleton on our Heavy suit, but it still stands. I am the Horseless Headsman. Director and COO of We Who Walk Alone Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 144	Posted - 2013.11.16 21:08:00 - [30] - Quote Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: Ten years of this existence would be ... trying. I wonder what sort of shape our minds will be in after fifty, if we keep at it. We shall see. In the mean time, I'd hardly classify these limited conflicts CONCORD has restricted us to as real war. Maybe in time we will be cleared for larger and larger deployments but as the battlefield is for us now I often feel less like a soldier and more like a professional athlete. What we face today is child's play compared to what will potentially arise years from now. *In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.*

Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 359	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:20:00 - [31] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: While we have the classic features of a human being, weaklings that they are, how can us mercs be considered them anymore? Yes we die, but we never cease to exist. The lesser ones get one chance, we get infinite. If a normal human tried to pick up our guns (let alone a capsuleer), they'd hurt themselves. If they didn't, as soon as they fired, they'd melt their skin. Have you looked at the temperature regulator in our dropsuits? I have and the air around us is superheated. And I's like to see a single human pick up an HMG by himself, like we can. I know, I know, we have an exoskeleton on our Heavy suit, but it still stands. We also have extensive shielding and armor on lighter suit-types. A baseliner human might suffer a broken arm from firing a shotgun even with a scout dropsuit, but it's not like they'd catch on fire. We're all still squishy biomass underneath it all. To be an infomorph is to be an informational entity, defined by data, not by any single body, but don't buy the hype. We're not truly immortal, any more than a computer program that is transferred from machine to machine. We just no longer die of quite the same things-- at least, unless we are cut off from supplies. Most of the first generation of our kind is dead, remember.
sir ravenwing BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 35	Posted - 2014.01.28 02:42:00 - [32] - Quote I find killing amusing, the staggering to the ground, the feel of a kill and the challenge but I only kill creatures of greed for we our made of greed and evil with a tiny spark of goodness. We must kill, not to get paid but to survive in this industrial world of greed, evil, and bloodshed. We simply fuel their markets in a cycle the will never end. As for the capsuller side, well I've heard them spit their lies. They shall never be what we are and we can't go to the endless black void of space so leave it a stalemate I do not fear my enemies, I fear the damn blueberries
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 398	Posted - 2014.01.28 17:37:00 - [33] - Quote sir ravenwing wrote: I find killing amusing, the staggering to the ground, the feel of a kill and the challenge but I only kill creatures of greed for we our made of greed and evil with a tiny spark of goodness. We must kill, not to get paid but to survive in this industrial world of greed, evil, and bloodshed. We simply fuel their markets in a cycle the will never end. As for the capsuller side, well I've heard them spit their lies. They shall never be what we are and we can't go to the endless black void of space so leave it a stalemate And people think my worldview is dark. "Evil" is an easy, imprecise word denoting something we think the universe (or the gods, or God) would consider an enemy. Identifying others in this way makes it okay to kill them. Defining one's self in this way (much more uncommon) declares an exception to society's rules-- it essentially claims license to act on a whim, while bragging that one can weather the consequences and daring society to try to enforce its mores. Personally, I find it simpler, and less depressing, to let the universe's moral sensibilities take care of themselves and focus on what I see in the world that is worth defending. Civilization produces plenty of suffering, and feeds the greed of some at the expense of others, perhaps-- but that is nothing to the horror that would be humans in a state of nature: insular, tribal in the most narrow and limited sense, protective of their nearest and dearest and vicious towards the stranger. To "civilize" the human animal is a worthwhile project: "good," if you like. It's just incomplete, and unlikely to ever really be completed. This is not such a terrible thing....
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6271	Posted - 2014.01.28 18:57:00 - [34] - Quote sir ravenwing wrote: I find killing amusing, the staggering to the ground, the feel of a kill and the challenge but I only kill creatures of greed for we our made of greed and evil with a tiny spark of goodness. We must kill, not to get paid but to survive in this industrial world of greed, evil, and bloodshed. We simply fuel their markets in a cycle the will never end. As for the capsuller side, well I've heard them spit their lies. They shall never be what we are and we can't go to the endless black void of space so leave it a stalemate That is the view of a weak man.....and only weak men believe what they do in battle defines who they are as men. We could be so much more, and stand for such greater causes, enact great feats that normal men and women could only dream of. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
sir ravenwing BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 36	Posted - 2014.01.29 00:11:00 - [35] - Quote Raises eyebrow "Weak man?,hah, that is of war if you want I can say a long speech about us, but I do not think we have much time for that, do you?" Author of A Raven's Call/ we fight for nothing but the almighty ISK- Sir Ravenwing
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6300	Posted - 2014.01.29 01:42:00 - [36] - Quote sir ravenwing wrote: Raises eyebrow "Weak man?,hah, that is of war if you want I can say a long speech about us, but I do not think we have much time for that, do you?" I would listen to your "speech" as you call it. As I said. A weak man divines his purpose from war. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
sir ravenwing BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 36	Posted - 2014.01.29 02:44:00 - [37] - Quote Our porpose is far too complex to describe fully besides I suck at describing stuff so... Our every cell breathes war from blind-minded man's point of view and I agree that is from weak minded men who are too arrogrant to see beyond what is easy to find. Your purpose is to serve your god, I know this for who you are and denak's purpose is to correct, mine is unknown so I fight till I have my answer if you wanted my speech too bad maybe tomorrow I'll speak but for now I am out of breath Author of A Raven's Call/ we fight for nothing but the almighty ISK- Sir Ravenwing
Mister0Zz Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 102	Posted - 2014.01.30 11:19:00 - [38] - Quote Conflict is not our purpose, it is a deeply physical manner of communication that is only truly understood by the immortal. A mortal man dies when he is shot, but when the Immortal is shot he Is being challenged, and in those challenges lies moments and truths beholden only to those freed from the finality of death. We fight to learn, we fight to earn isk, we fight for happiness and to enjoy the company of our comrades on the battlefield. Strong bonds are tempered through conflict while some are born from it and others often broken by it. Conflict is not our purpose. But it often proves an effective method of communicating one's purpose
Mister0Zz Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 102	Posted - 2014.01.30 11:26:00 - [39] - Quote For the record, i have a capsuleer clone and an infantry clone. I spend around equal time in both going where I'm needed most. We're not different, just a quick transfer of consciousness and any one of you could climb out of a pod
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 955	Posted - 2014.01.30 11:27:00 - [40] - Quote Mister0Zz wrote: For the record, i have a capsuleer clone and an infantry clone. I spend around equal time in both going where I'm needed most. We're not different, just a quick transfer of consciousness and any one of you could climb out of a pod Bullshit. Everyone knows that you can not be a capsuleer and a duster at the same time, regardless if you have different clones. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 29th

True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6406	Posted - 2014.01.30 19:47:00 - [41] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: Mister0Zz wrote: For the record, i have a capsuleer clone and an infantry clone. I spend around equal time in both going where I'm needed most. We're not different, just a quick transfer of consciousness and any one of you could climb out of a pod Bullshit. Everyone knows that you can not be a capsuleer and a duster at the same time, regardless if you have different clones. Denak is right, so far as I know the implants are currently mutually exclusive... "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6217	Posted - 2014.01.30 20:34:00 - [42] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Denak Kalamari wrote: Mister0Zz wrote: For the record, i have a capsuleer clone and an infantry clone. I spend around equal time in both going where I'm needed most. We're not different, just a quick transfer of consciousness and any one of you could climb out of a pod Bullshit. Everyone knows that you can not be a capsuleer and a duster at the same time, regardless if you have different clones. Denak is right, so far as I know the implants are currently mutually exclusive... This is accurate. The different technologies involved with capsuleers and immortal soldiers interfere with each other too much that it is impossible for one consciousness to be both. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Mister0Zz Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 102	Posted - 2014.01.31 01:24:00 - [43] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: True Adamance wrote: Denak Kalamari wrote: Mister0Zz wrote: For the record, i have a capsuleer clone and an infantry clone. I spend around equal time in both going where I'm needed most. We're not different, just a quick transfer of consciousness and any one of you could climb out of a pod Bullshit. Everyone knows that you can not be a capsuleer and a duster at the same time, regardless if you have different clones. Denak is right, so far as I know the implants are currently mutually exclusive... This is accurate. The different technologies involved with capsuleers and immortal soldiers interfere with each other too much that it is impossible for one consciousness to be both. That is a common misconception, but our clones are designed to interface with the same CRUs that the capsuleers do. All combat relevant data is stored in the implant itself and is therefore incompatible with a capsuleer clone because the data doesn't transfer with the consciousness like usual. In other words When i can fight i cant fly And when i fly i cant fight but the consciousness transfer happens just the same
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6424	Posted - 2014.01.31 02:17:00 - [44] - Quote Mister0Zz wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: True Adamance wrote: Denak Kalamari wrote: Mister0Zz wrote: For the record, i have a capsuleer clone and an infantry clone. I spend around equal time in both going where I'm needed most. We're not different, just a quick transfer of consciousness and any one of you could climb out of a pod Bullshit. Everyone knows that you can not be a capsuleer and a duster at the same time, regardless if you have different clones. Denak is right, so far as I know the implants are currently mutually exclusive... This is accurate. The different technologies involved with capsuleers and immortal soldiers interfere with each other too much that it is impossible for one consciousness to be both. That is a common misconception, but our clones are designed to interface with the same CRUs that the capsuleers do. All combat relevant data is stored in the implant itself and is therefore incompatible with a capsuleer clone because the data doesn't transfer with the consciousness like usual. In other words When i can fight i cant fly And when i fly i cant fight but the consciousness transfer happens just the same ((Can you confirm that canonically, I believe CCP somewhere has stated we cloned soldiers cannot become capsuleers. I will look into this.)) "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6262	Posted - 2014.01.31 03:41:00 - [45] - Quote ((also the simple fact that you cannot link your EVE and Dust accounts so they are two separate characters with different names and all . . . )) ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
shadow drake35 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 36	Posted - 2014.02.02 16:52:00 - [46] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: Every once in a while i find a Pilot that says being a merc is easy. That it requires no skill or that any one can shoot a gun. When i see this i laugh. I mean you can do a lot but you can't do what i do. You can't dodge an enemy squad of 6 then kill them all. You can't square off against a heavy and win. I must say one thing's true you will GO 514 before your 2nd battle. I have my immortality not because i can be a fancy mail man, not because I can shoot lasers at rocks, and certainly not for being confined in a chair all day. I earn my immortality because i am a skilled killer, because i can commit acts of destruction with out thinking about it. I can run up to my enemy and brutality stab in the face after ripping his mask off. I can charge a point fearless killing my enemies not giving one thought about dying. I can personally kill someone not from space through a strike of some sorts, but face to face. I get to see my prey's face of terror when the crumple. So I must ask do you think that capsuleers can do our jobs. dust take skill not clicking a mic to got there and type a distance for a attack The Mercenary Way Who cares about race as long as the job is done and i get paid.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6471	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:12:00 - [47] - Quote shadow drake35 wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Every once in a while i find a Pilot that says being a merc is easy. That it requires no skill or that any one can shoot a gun. When i see this i laugh. I mean you can do a lot but you can't do what i do. You can't dodge an enemy squad of 6 then kill them all. You can't square off against a heavy and win. I must say one thing's true you will GO 514 before your 2nd battle. I have my immortality not because i can be a fancy mail man, not because I can shoot lasers at rocks, and certainly not for being confined in a chair all day. I earn my immortality because i am a skilled killer, because i can commit acts of destruction with out thinking about it. I can run up to my enemy and brutality stab in the face after ripping his mask off. I can charge a point fearless killing my enemies not giving one thought about dying. I can personally kill someone not from space through a strike of some sorts, but face to face. I get to see my prey's face of terror when the crumple. So I must ask do you think that capsuleers can do our jobs. dust take skill not clicking a mic to got there and type a distance for a attack Seems like you have very little idea abour what capsuleers actually do. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Skilfer Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 59	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:02:00 - [48] - Quote True Adamance wrote: ((Can you confirm that canonically, I believe CCP somewhere has stated we cloned soldiers cannot become capsuleers. I will look into this.)) ((In Templar One they explain that primary implant used in capsuleers requires massive cloning facilities in stations (consciousness trasfers from clone --> facility --> clone) while the one being used in DUST mercs transfers it directly from clone to clone. Let us add on the fact that the two fields are EXTREMELY speciallized, require two vastly different skill sets, skill books can only be downloaded one at a time, and the fact that implants and clones are sold by corporate entities. This importance of the last fact is that it is more profitable to make alliances and corporations purchase multiple types of clones and implants than it is to try and create masterkey versions that fit everything. I hope that helps! ))
Dagger-Two Tharumec 227	Posted - 2014.02.06 20:36:00 - [49] - Quote (( Hate to do this ooc but it seems clarification is needed. To be a capsuleer you need a specific genetic markers, which themselves are very rare. Not everyone can be a capsuleer. Even if you had the cybernetics installed, without the correct genes you would 'wetgrave' when you connected to the capsule, your mind becoming locked in with the system, resulting in permanant coma. Anyone can have the merc implant installed. A capsuleer could technically create a jump clone of himself, forsaking the large cerebro-spinal implant for the merc one, but from that point 'jumping' back to the capsuleer body would be a problen, since it is impossible to say if the data stored in the implant could be accessed, and even if it could, how it could be mapped to an organic brain. )) Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1085	Posted - 2014.02.10 15:52:00 - [50] - Quote it's like the whole armed forces argument that it seems like military people get into hilarious arguments over. The Navy is better than the Airforce, but the Army is better than the Navy, But the Airforce is better than the Navy, add your offensive-yet-hilarious jokes too --- You gotta have some respect for capsuleers tho. They do more stat checking and have to deal with mostly outsmarting and playing chess with their opponents even on 1v1. Pretty sure a lot of them deal with more politics than us but I'm sure will get there sooner or later. Everything else I'm highly ignorant on still. At the same they, they have to respect us. We put more...physical action into the game, if you will. We can't point and click a target. We must use our personal reaction skills, muscle memory, tactical thinking, spatial awareness, distance guessing, etc. It's funny really... By the time Dust really gets off the ground, Valkyrie pilots will be ready to go through what we went through(if they're really getting placed into the active EVE world). Will probably be treating them the same. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus

XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 568	Posted - 2014.02.10 17:38:00 - [51] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: it's like the whole armed forces argument that it seems like military people get into hilarious arguments over. The Navy is better than the Airforce, but the Army is better than the Navy, But the Airforce is better than the Navy, add your offensive-yet-hilarious jokes too --- You gotta have some respect for capsuleers tho. They do more stat checking and have to deal with mostly outsmarting and playing chess with their opponents even on 1v1. Pretty sure a lot of them deal with more politics than us but I'm sure will get there sooner or later. Everything else I'm highly ignorant on still. At the same they, they have to respect us. We put more...physical action into the game, if you will. We can't point and click a target. We must use our personal reaction skills, muscle memory, tactical thinking, spatial awareness, distance guessing, etc. It's funny really... By the time Dust really gets off the ground, Valkyrie pilots will be ready to go through what we went through(if they're really getting placed into the active EVE world). Will probably be treating them the same. ((Please place parenthesis around OOC statements and questions. Better yet don't say them at all. Will edit my post when you do.)) What the hell is a Valkyrie pilot? Are you referring to the EVE gate? Who says you can't kill in style? When CCP plays Dust514
21yrOld Knight Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 521	Posted - 2014.03.06 02:24:00 - [52] - Quote Wow this topic has a lot of debate behind. I have met more pilots since I made my first statements. My mind hasn't changed. In fact it I have a even firmer believe on the subject. A lot of misconceptions also. 1.8 must be a porn star because it is taking a long time to come.
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 359	Posted - 2014.03.11 08:50:00 - [53] - Quote You should remember that capsuleers just see those ships what they destroys,and they dont see agony and misery what they cause with their attacks in colonys and space stations and civs etc etc.So they dont remorse those things,other hand we mercs are aware those things and i haven`t heard any talk of us mercs have hitted against civs. Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Hawk-eye Occultus Omega Elite Mercs INC. 68	Posted - 2014.03.11 09:28:00 - [54] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: You should remember that capsuleers just see those ships what they destroys,and they dont see agony and misery what they cause with their attacks in colonys and space stations and civs etc etc.So they dont remorse those things,other hand we mercs are aware those things and i haven`t heard any talk of us mercs have hitted against civs. Depends how large the ships are. If you have a frigate piloted by a capsuleer, and they fly past an exploded battleship, they will be able to see the corpses of the crew floating all around them. The capsuleer in the dreadnought will not, however, as his camera drones orbit so far from him (and possibly the battle) that he can barely make out that frigate, unless he starts actively searching for it. It's all about scale. CONTRACTS: ' Remember, whenever we need muscle; we simply farm it out to our favourite band of shady missionaries...
Kitt 514 True North. 143	Posted - 2014.03.14 19:19:00 - [55] - Quote As a pod pilot, and a merc... Piloting a ship is much more difficult.
Dagger-Two Tharumec Villore Accords 257	Posted - 2014.03.16 08:23:00 - [56] - Quote Kitt 514 wrote: As a pod pilot, and a merc... Piloting a ship is much more difficult. ((Ugh, for the umpteenth time, you can't be a capsuleer and a mercenary, the two are incompatible. This is established lore which should be followed if you're going to use this in-character channel. )) Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
Foehammerr Immortal Guides 10	Posted - 2014.03.17 04:34:00 - [57] - Quote I made friend a while back who got into the business of being a capsuleer for supporting the Gallente cause by performing orbital strikes for us mercs. While in one of our text chats, we came to a topic similar to this one. If I remember correctly, he said that Capsuleer tech (implants, pods, and the like) comes from those Joivan types. Since we all agree that our implants come from the Sleepers (different people right?), it makes sense that our tech don't cross well. And while we're on the subjects of them space jockeys, I never really understood why that resent us as much as they do. Now this ain't all of 'em, but my cap' friend told me that a loot of them really don't like us. maybe they just dont like the new kids on the block? I had the displeasure of running into one of these salty cap's early on in my career. I ain't seen so much animosity in someone, even downrange. Its like just the thought of us boils their processed, synthetic blood. I bet they fear us. They must think we're a threat to their way of life. The thought almost makes me laugh. *Rangers Lead The Way!* Beta Vet since 2/5/2013
21yrOld Knight Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 567	Posted - 2014.03.17 20:09:00 - [58] - Quote Foehammerr wrote: I made friend a while back who got into the business of being a capsuleer for supporting the Gallente cause by performing orbital strikes for us mercs. While in one of our text chats, we came to a topic similar to this one. If I remember correctly, he said that Capsuleer tech (implants, pods, and the like) comes from those Joivan types. Since we all agree that our implants come from the Sleepers (different people right?), it makes sense that our tech don't cross well. And while we're on the subjects of them space jockeys, I never really understood why that resent us as much as they do. Now this ain't all of 'em, but my cap' friend told me that a loot of them really don't like us. maybe they just dont like the new kids on the block? I had the displeasure of running into one of these salty cap's early on in my career. I ain't seen so much animosity in someone, even downrange. Its like just the thought of us boils their processed, synthetic blood. I bet they fear us. They must think we're a threat to their way of life. The thought almost makes me laugh. I couldn't agree with you more. This guy looks like he is a fine merc. ( Our implants are based off of sleepers. The ones we use were created by the empires. If we had the original sleeper tech we would go 514 a lot. They are of different origin.) I like dust more then eve. Eve feels like work. Volunteer member of the Arkombine, but i don't want out.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 298	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:56:00 - [59] - Quote Not sure if I like all the extended family I have, must be by marriage. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Dagger-Two Tharumec Villore Accords 259	Posted - 2014.03.20 04:21:00 - [60] - Quote You could likely speculate on Capsuleer opinion for ages. I can tell you one thing, however. Amongst the ones I call friends, the general sentiment is fear. Not fear of your power, of being usurped or surpassed, but fear of what a new breed of immortals is capable of. Capsuleers already stain the skies with the blood of countless innocent people, and now immortal soldiers may soon do the same on our worlds. History has already borne witness to the atrocities that come with such power. This trans-humanism that is romanticized amongst the elite is a steep, slippery slope. It causes you to forget what is truly important, to forget where you came from or who you really are. You end up a shadow of your original self, a monster with no care for those not like you. It is these monsters they fear; that I fear. Capsuleer or mercenary, it does not matter. Both are threats to humanity at large. One day, sooner than you might like to think, the fighting will no longer be based around empires or ideologies, but around the very survival of our humanity against those who would see it destroyed. Some of us are already fighting... Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8561	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:54:00 - [61] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: You could likely speculate on Capsuleer opinion for ages. I can tell you one thing, however. Amongst the ones I call friends, the general sentiment is fear. Not fear of your power, of being usurped or surpassed, but fear of what a new breed of immortals is capable of. Capsuleers already stain the skies with the blood of countless innocent people, and now immortal soldiers may soon do the same on our worlds. History has already borne witness to the atrocities that come with such power. This trans-humanism that is romanticized amongst the elite is a steep, slippery slope. It causes you to forget what is truly important, to forget where you came from or who you really are. You end up a shadow of your original self, a monster with no care for those not like you. It is these monsters they fear; that I fear. Capsuleer or mercenary, it does not matter. Both are threats to humanity at large, and I can assure you there are capsuleers out there who do not wish to be, who fight for the right reasons. One day, sooner than you might like to think, the fighting will no longer be based around empires or ideologies, but around the very survival of our humanity against those who would see it destroyed. To that end, ask yourself: Are you still human? Mortals should not fear us......I wish they did not..... The people of the Empire having nothing to fear from me, nor those mortals of Republic who remain non combatants. I wish they would remember how many of our kind defend them and stand at the vanguard of our peoples wars so they they may not. In response I believe I am still human.....the Faith might disagree....but I would like to think that when the time comes I can prove that even being what we are we still retain our essential humanity and Faith in God. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
21yrOld Knight Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 571	Posted - 2014.03.21 04:00:00 - [62] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: You could likely speculate on Capsuleer opinion for ages. I can tell you one thing, however. Amongst the ones I call friends, the general sentiment is fear. Not fear of your power, of being usurped or surpassed, but fear of what a new breed of immortals is capable of. Capsuleers already stain the skies with the blood of countless innocent people, and now immortal soldiers may soon do the same on our worlds. History has already borne witness to the atrocities that come with such power. This trans-humanism that is romanticized amongst the elite is a steep, slippery slope. It causes you to forget what is truly important, to forget where you came from or who you really are. You end up a shadow of your original self, a monster with no care for those not like you. It is these monsters they fear; that I fear. Capsuleer or mercenary, it does not matter. Both are threats to humanity at large, and I can assure you there are capsuleers out there who do not wish to be, who fight for the right reasons. One day, sooner than you might like to think, the fighting will no longer be based around empires or ideologies, but around the very survival of our humanity against those who would see it destroyed. To that end, ask yourself: Are you still human? Mortals should not fear us......I wish they did not..... The people of the Empire having nothing to fear from me, nor those mortals of Republic who remain non combatants. I wish they would remember how many of our kind defend them and stand at the vanguard of our peoples wars so they they may not. In response I believe I am still human.....the Faith might disagree....but I would like to think that when the time comes I can prove that even being what we are we still retain our essential humanity and Faith in God. It is nice that you have a dream of a world perfect for us mercs, but sadly it isn't true. All of man kind besides capsuleers fear us. They have the fullest right to, when they are characters like void echo around. There is also what the empires tell them of us. We are meant to be feared. All of us are killing machines. That is all we do. Like I said before we don't transport special documents, or consistently look at the price of ores worth less then a militia scrambler pistol. We kill for a living. The empires are going to want us to be destroyed. When they understand that we have similarities to capsuleers being on a loose leash made out of a spider web. One quick pull on our end and they loose control of us. Their only option is to have us all biomassed. We are all 2nd generation clones for a reason, because the first generation went insane and became out of control. They are very capable of doing the same to us. I don't understand why people support the empires, when they empires know we are a threat to them. We must fight against the empires and build our own clown infrastructure. The empires will remember the day Arkombine became free of the empires grasp. They will remember when the ways of the clone mercenary became to power. The will remember when Arkombine becomes the power they feared of our creation. On the forums, I feel lost like a Malaysian aircraft. Volunteer member of the Arkombine, but i don't want out.
Dagger-Two Tharumec Villore Accords 259	Posted - 2014.03.21 04:40:00 - [63] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: You could likely speculate on Capsuleer opinion for ages. I can tell you one thing, however. Amongst the ones I call friends, the general sentiment is fear. Not fear of your power, of being usurped or surpassed, but fear of what a new breed of immortals is capable of. Capsuleers already stain the skies with the blood of countless innocent people, and now immortal soldiers may soon do the same on our worlds. History has already borne witness to the atrocities that come with such power. This trans-humanism that is romanticized amongst the elite is a steep, slippery slope. It causes you to forget what is truly important, to forget where you came from or who you really are. You end up a shadow of your original self, a monster with no care for those not like you. It is these monsters they fear; that I fear. Capsuleer or mercenary, it does not matter. Both are threats to humanity at large, and I can assure you there are capsuleers out there who do not wish to be, who fight for the right reasons. One day, sooner than you might like to think, the fighting will no longer be based around empires or ideologies, but around the very survival of our humanity against those who would see it destroyed. To that end, ask yourself: Are you still human? Mortals should not fear us......I wish they did not..... The people of the Empire having nothing to fear from me, nor those mortals of Republic who remain non combatants. I wish they would remember how many of our kind defend them and stand at the vanguard of our peoples wars so they they may not. In response I believe I am still human.....the Faith might disagree....but I would like to think that when the time comes I can prove that even being what we are we still retain our essential humanity and Faith in God. Your heart seems to be in the right place Kador, but look at what you wrote. 'Mortals should not fear us' Mortals. Lesser beings. That is how it begins. The separation subtly slips in to your mind, and you barely notice it taking hold. Whether that was your intended choice of words or not, the truth behind them remains. It is when we begin defining ourselves as immortals, and everyone else as mortals, that humanity is lost for both. We become Gods, and they become worthless. Regardless of differences in faith, you and I can undoubtedly agree: we are not Gods, and we should never think of ourselves or act as such. Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8572	Posted - 2014.03.21 07:11:00 - [64] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: You could likely speculate on Capsuleer opinion for ages. I can tell you one thing, however. Amongst the ones I call friends, the general sentiment is fear. Not fear of your power, of being usurped or surpassed, but fear of what a new breed of immortals is capable of. Capsuleers already stain the skies with the blood of countless innocent people, and now immortal soldiers may soon do the same on our worlds. History has already borne witness to the atrocities that come with such power. This trans-humanism that is romanticized amongst the elite is a steep, slippery slope. It causes you to forget what is truly important, to forget where you came from or who you really are. You end up a shadow of your original self, a monster with no care for those not like you. It is these monsters they fear; that I fear. Capsuleer or mercenary, it does not matter. Both are threats to humanity at large, and I can assure you there are capsuleers out there who do not wish to be, who fight for the right reasons. One day, sooner than you might like to think, the fighting will no longer be based around empires or ideologies, but around the very survival of our humanity against those who would see it destroyed. To that end, ask yourself: Are you still human? Mortals should not fear us......I wish they did not..... The people of the Empire having nothing to fear from me, nor those mortals of Republic who remain non combatants. I wish they would remember how many of our kind defend them and stand at the vanguard of our peoples wars so they they may not. In response I believe I am still human.....the Faith might disagree....but I would like to think that when the time comes I can prove that even being what we are we still retain our essential humanity and Faith in God. Your heart seems to be in the right place Kador, but look at what you wrote. 'Mortals should not fear us' Mortals. Lesser beings. That is how it begins. The separation subtly slips in to your mind, and you barely notice it taking hold. Whether that was your intended choice of words or not, the truth behind them remains. It is when we begin defining ourselves as immortals, and everyone else as mortals, that humanity is lost for both. We become Gods, and they become worthless. Regardless of differences in faith, you and I can undoubtedly agree: we are not Gods, and we should never think of ourselves or act as such. Mortal surely for that is what they are......but by no means they lesser beings? No if anything they possess what we lack....and it its own right that very thing is precious to me which is why I strive to protect it. I misunderstand your logic.....but logic is subjective and fallible..... and sometimes our kind form odd notions about what they are. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Dagger-Two Tharumec Villore Accords 259	Posted - 2014.03.21 17:48:00 - [65] - Quote It might seem like strange reasoning now, but I'm sure one day you'll understand what I mean. As for you Knight, the empires are more than just governments. They are made up of tens of trillions of innocents. The more you act like a threat to those people, the more the empire governments will view you as such. In the end, your existence is insignificant compared to the countless lives the empires struggle to protect. Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 405	Posted - 2014.03.21 18:41:00 - [66] - Quote Reality is this,they(factions) need us and capsuleers.We are nececerry evil,if they could they would wipe all of us out. Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Dagger-Two Tharumec Villore Accords 259	Posted - 2014.03.21 18:50:00 - [67] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: Reality is this,they(factions) need us and capsuleers.We are nececerry evil,if they could they would wipe all of us out. Your statement contradicts itself. If they need us, why would they wipe us out? The truth is while we are viewed as an evolution of mankind, we are not necessary, and evil is a matter of personal choice. Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
Embry Laughton Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 47	Posted - 2014.03.26 18:11:00 - [68] - Quote Well when you think about it, they can. We're paid to go kill other mercs. They too can get paid to kill mercs. They might not be as surgically precise, but you can't deny that they can be damn effective. Hale Sentra the italian threadpocalypse 2014, I was there
Hawk-eye Occultus Omega Elite Mercs INC. 86	Posted - 2014.03.26 19:23:00 - [69] - Quote Embry Laughton wrote: Well when you think about it, they can. We're paid to go kill other mercs. They too can get paid to kill mercs. They might not be as surgically precise, but you can't deny that they can be damn effective. I'm pretty sure the main reason that we are the ones sent in rather than the regular soldiers is the whole "you're an immortal infomorph" thing. Graveyards are expensive. CONTRACTS: ' Remember, whenever we need muscle; we simply farm it out to our favourite band of shady missionaries...
Embry Laughton Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 47	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:27:00 - [70] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Embry Laughton wrote: Well when you think about it, they can. We're paid to go kill other mercs. They too can get paid to kill mercs. They might not be as surgically precise, but you can't deny that they can be damn effective. I'm pretty sure the main reason that we are the ones sent in rather than the regular soldiers is the whole "you're an immortal infomorph" thing. Graveyards are expensive. The discussion isn't about us vs regular soldiers, its about us vs capsuleers. Us vs regular soldiers isn't even a debate. I think the primary argument in favor of mercs over capsuleers is that we can take an installation with minimal collateral damage when compared to it being glassed from orbit. Hale Sentra the italian threadpocalypse 2014, I was there



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