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Yun Hee Ryeon
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Posted - 2013.10.09 05:04:00 -
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Damus Trifarn wrote:I look on those that make their grim work enjoyable with a curiosity and speculation. I find the concept of enjoying such a cruel way of life appalling, and yet it is interesting to see how their minds have been able to overcome the stresses of war (I am not implying that your associate is psychotic; I am merely looking back at my experiences with some capsuleers) There do seem to be capsuleers who enjoy pursuing conventional spacecraft, the means by which many a combat pilot's bread is buttered. An experienced capsuleer becomes a weapon of mass destruction; there may be some satisfaction in this. But the difference in power makes it analogous to hunting sub-sapient species in a planetary wilderness.
A far greater joy-- and it is one more common, even inherent, to us than it is to them-- is the hunt for one's peers. There is something primal and addictive in the hunt and the kill, the test of skill and cunning. Experience that even once, and it is difficult to find much joy in hunting weaker victims. It makes the mere murder that is day-to-day capsuleer combat work seem ...
... downright herbivorous, really. Like grazing on grass, or mining.
Appalling or not, this sort of fratricidal bloodlust is a motivating force behind much of the capsuleer economy.
Quote:That being said, I have found that it is more prudent to loathe the work and embrace the fellowship of those you work with. I may not like having to mow down foes with a Boundless HMG, but I can enjoy the thankful remarks of my friends that I saved by doing so. Such an encouragement is a continuous supply of morale that gives my mind strength to fight the depression of combat and sharpens my senses to make the kill happen. Prudent, perhaps. And ... sometimes I do try not to enjoy it-- not to ... smile, as I prepare to vent a knife's plasma charge through the spine of a fellow "immortal" soldier. Though, really, if I did not enjoy the work, I think I would have to retire.
I'm not sure you want someone like me on the loose in the civilian population. |
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Posted - 2013.10.10 05:16:00 -
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Mr. Trifarn:
The Templar Crusader acts as he believes is right; so do many others, seemingly including yourself. Respectfully, does this grant you absolution for the harm you inflict? Perhaps time will tell. Certainly, you are stronger, more focused, than the lost, or those who so badly want us to believe they are lost that they throw boxes of kittens out of airlocks.
Really, I wonder how many of us are actually lost. We are capable of atrocity, certainly, but that is mostly a matter of frailties common to much of humanity.
For my own part, I am content to channel my damaged soul toward constructive ends. The question for me is not whether I am "noble," but whether I serve a purpose beyond my own fractured existence-- whether I am useful.
To return to the original topic of discussion: I'm sure many capsuleers could, briefly, do what we do. Some had background as ground soldiers before entering the academies, or come from elite backgrounds such as the Khanid cyberknights. Many of our weapons occupy the outer edges of what even enhanced soldiers might use, but, still, no doubt a few could still perform passably.
What they would not do, is survive the experience.
Capsuleer emergency cloning is dependant on the availability of a capsule and, more importantly, its onboard cloning rig. It is rare for the vast majority of us to walk away from a battle without at least one death. A capsuleer who walks into one of our conflicts is unlikely to walk away again. |
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Posted - 2013.10.10 05:27:00 -
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Demel Derpovsky wrote:I don't know, that was the life I accepted. I knew I would partake in the raffle and the bloodshed, spraying both like leaves on a warm, green day. This world we live in is nothing but dominance, if you are at the bottom, good luck; if you are the top, don't go to the bottom. We, demi-gods of "Lazarus" flesh, blood, and bone are the dominant, a dominant made to fight, to contest and spill each others throats. There is truth in this. It is only a fragment, however.
Be careful, soldier. A fragment of truth is more treacherous than a lie.
Quote:The world revolves around an eternally moving machine, fueled by blood, bullets, and currency. It breathes luxury and pleasure into our lungs, and preaches words of greed. We are bound to this machine. Tch. The game of material gain, one of the largest civilization plays with itself so as to order itself.
It is one of the most obvious illusions, and yet we forget so easily: beyond the reality we give it by our consent, it isn't real. |
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Posted - 2013.10.16 03:50:00 -
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Damus Trifarn wrote:I do not believe I am above judgement for the things I have done, for we all are human and all have had moments where they succumb to the darker possibilities of the soul. I am merely trying to offer insight from my past experiences. If time will tell, it will be a very long story, for the supply of our mortal vessels is only increasing. Until we run out of clones I anticipate that time will tell a library's worth of stories about our lives and our ventures. Our humanity at this stage is debatable, Mr. Trifarn. We meet many definitions of it, but we have become detached from what's commonly known as the "human condition," notably the bits involving death.
Reversing that observation, it's unlikely that most of us will be able to enjoy that bounty of time. Capsuleers last six months on average-- scarcely an eternity. At a guess, our average careers will be much shorter; death for capsuleers is both less traumatic and less common.
True Adamance wrote:Dante Gheinok wrote:For the Capsuleers who think they can do what we do I say this ..... I was a trained baseline combat pilot before I became an Immortal Clone.
I can still pilot, who of them will unpod and help me take back control of the gun turret that is keeping the squad pinned down? (( Lore wise we cannot have both the Capsuleer Implants as well as the current generation of Clone mercenary implants....)) ((Trained baseline pilot-- standard issue human being, meaning he is not and never was a capsuleer.))
The difference between being a baseline pilot and a pod captain is the difference between flying in a ship versus being a ship, and flying, Mr. Gheinok.
Please let's not cheapen their experience just because they don't seem to understand ours. |
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Posted - 2013.10.19 13:56:00 -
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SgtDoughnut wrote:Our implants come from sleeper technology.
I keep hearing this, but while it stands to reason I haven't been able to get it verified.
((As far as I know, CCP's never clarified whether this bit of lore is IC knowledge.)) |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 01:03:00 -
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SgtDoughnut wrote:Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:SgtDoughnut wrote:Our implants come from sleeper technology. I keep hearing this, but while it stands to reason I haven't been able to get it verified. ((As far as I know, CCP's never clarified whether this bit of lore is IC knowledge.)) If you read templar 1 it says that all the implants come from sleeper tech. Also the video shows the ship pulling up to a sleeper base in WH space. ((I know. The fact that Tony G wrote it and the video shows it does NOT mean that our characters have a clue.)) |
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Posted - 2013.11.17 04:20:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:While we have the classic features of a human being, weaklings that they are, how can us mercs be considered them anymore? Yes we die, but we never cease to exist. The lesser ones get one chance, we get infinite. If a normal human tried to pick up our guns (let alone a capsuleer), they'd hurt themselves. If they didn't, as soon as they fired, they'd melt their skin. Have you looked at the temperature regulator in our dropsuits? I have and the air around us is superheated. And I's like to see a single human pick up an HMG by himself, like we can. I know, I know, we have an exoskeleton on our Heavy suit, but it still stands. We also have extensive shielding and armor on lighter suit-types. A baseliner human might suffer a broken arm from firing a shotgun even with a scout dropsuit, but it's not like they'd catch on fire. We're all still squishy biomass underneath it all.
To be an infomorph is to be an informational entity, defined by data, not by any single body, but don't buy the hype. We're not truly immortal, any more than a computer program that is transferred from machine to machine. We just no longer die of quite the same things-- at least, unless we are cut off from supplies.
Most of the first generation of our kind is dead, remember. |
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Posted - 2014.01.28 17:37:00 -
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sir ravenwing wrote:I find killing amusing, the staggering to the ground, the feel of a kill and the challenge but I only kill creatures of greed for we our made of greed and evil with a tiny spark of goodness. We must kill, not to get paid but to survive in this industrial world of greed, evil, and bloodshed. We simply fuel their markets in a cycle the will never end. As for the capsuller side, well I've heard them spit their lies. They shall never be what we are and we can't go to the endless black void of space so leave it a stalemate And people think my worldview is dark.
"Evil" is an easy, imprecise word denoting something we think the universe (or the gods, or God) would consider an enemy. Identifying others in this way makes it okay to kill them. Defining one's self in this way (much more uncommon) declares an exception to society's rules-- it essentially claims license to act on a whim, while bragging that one can weather the consequences and daring society to try to enforce its mores.
Personally, I find it simpler, and less depressing, to let the universe's moral sensibilities take care of themselves and focus on what I see in the world that is worth defending. Civilization produces plenty of suffering, and feeds the greed of some at the expense of others, perhaps-- but that is nothing to the horror that would be humans in a state of nature: insular, tribal in the most narrow and limited sense, protective of their nearest and dearest and vicious towards the stranger.
To "civilize" the human animal is a worthwhile project: "good," if you like. It's just incomplete, and unlikely to ever really be completed.
This is not such a terrible thing.... |
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