DUST Search - I don't really see too many heavies with HMGs anymore...

Long Evity wrote:

D legendary hero wrote:

Long Evity wrote:

calvin b wrote:

Those who say heavies are fine are full of S*** and should not comment unless you play one. I quit being a heavy a month ago and went assault AR and been winning most matches. The only ones I have trouble with is the occasional FG, if the FG did not do the damage it does they would be screwed. I was playing heavy since Beta and I cant express how much I hate the current heavy and its apparent weaknesses. Out ranged, damage is so so, and our suits is like paper to almost all weapons. I play sniper to relieve the boredom and I have put heavies under in less than 3 shots with no problem. I love seeing heavies in the open for I know its an easy kill and the poor B****** is F****. So if you think a heavy is fine how many have seen a scout with a SG own a heavy? How many have seen a AR, ScR user own a heavy with ease? If heavies were as good as some say then you would see more of them and the evidence is completely the opposite.

I called for a strike over a month ago to voice our discontent of the current heavy use. Very few would sign that petition, now that I see less of the heavy brothers I wonder if they would change there minds and sign.

Boycott the heavy and refuse to use it or any heavy weapon until CCP fixes its role.

Heavies are fine.

I don't base my heavy experiences off of pubs like everyone else is doing. Pubs are not a reliable place to see if a suit is working or not when it's suppose to be situational to begin with. A suits as good as a team can put it to effect - and in PC heavies are put to great effect.

I am still trying to understand where this whole 'situational thing" comes from.
Each suit is supposed to have advantages and disadvantages. however, how one uses said advantages is up to them.

Not to adress your eariler point. Why is every suit "situation" except assault suits?

since, heavies are supposed to be defense only. then shouldnt assaults be offense only?

It's messed up - I know. But in what situation do you see a heavy thriving in long distance combat even with a long distance weapon? Our hitbox is too big and we're too slow.. We'll likely just get gunned down trying to put our sights down on 'em. It makes us situational. Just like scouts shouldn't be charging head first. Is CCP doing what's right for each class to play there roles effectively? Nope. But it is what it is and it's likely to get worse and more situational for the heavy, and I mean every type of heavy. There won't ever be a heavy to rival the assault suit in versatilely. And that's the role the assault player plays - versatile. At least in my opinion, but the logi seems more capable of being anything it wants.


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HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles 3720	Posted - 2013.10.07 21:32:00 - [1] - Quote Gave up on the heavy and use an assault rifle and have so much more fun! I solo proto heavies with my SMG and laugh at any heavy that tells me I can't I was a die hard heavy from the very beginning but with its current state and the size of maps I have no interest in standing in one small enclosed area and wait to have grenades thrown at me. The current heavy/HMG is a flop is it powerful in the right situation yes. how often in this game does the right situation play out per match?
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles 3733	Posted - 2013.10.10 02:44:00 - [2] - Quote Long Evity wrote: D legendary hero wrote: Long Evity wrote: calvin b wrote: Those who say heavies are fine are full of S* and should not comment unless you play one. I quit being a heavy a month ago and went assault AR and been winning most matches. The only ones I have trouble with is the occasional FG, if the FG did not do the damage it does they would be screwed. I was playing heavy since Beta and I cant express how much I hate the current heavy and its apparent weaknesses. Out ranged, damage is so so, and our suits is like paper to almost all weapons. I play sniper to relieve the boredom and I have put heavies under in less than 3 shots with no problem. I love seeing heavies in the open for I know its an easy kill and the poor B** is F**. So if you think a heavy is fine how many have seen a scout with a SG own a heavy? How many have seen a AR, ScR user own a heavy with ease? If heavies were as good as some say then you would see more of them and the evidence is completely the opposite. I called for a strike over a month ago to voice our discontent of the current heavy use. Very few would sign that petition, now that I see less of the heavy brothers I wonder if they would change there minds and sign. Boycott the heavy and refuse to use it or any heavy weapon until CCP fixes its role. Heavies are fine. I don't base my heavy experiences off of pubs like everyone else is doing. Pubs are not a reliable place to see if a suit is working or not when it's suppose to be situational to begin with. A suits as good as a team can put it to effect - and in PC heavies are put to great effect. I am still trying to understand where this whole 'situational thing" comes from. Each suit is supposed to have advantages and disadvantages. however, how one uses said advantages is up to them. Not to adress your eariler point. Why is every suit "situation" except assault suits? since, heavies are supposed to be defense only. then shouldnt assaults be offense only? It's messed up - I know. But in what situation do you see a heavy thriving in long distance combat even with a long distance weapon? Our hitbox is too big and we're too slow.. We'll likely just get gunned down trying to put our sights down on 'em. It makes us situational. Just like scouts shouldn't be charging head first. Is CCP doing what's right for each class to play there roles effectively? Nope. But it is what it is and it's likely to get worse and more situational for the heavy, and I mean every type of heavy. There won't ever be a heavy to rival the assault suit in versatilely. And that's the role the assault player plays - versatile. At least in my opinion, but the logi seems more capable of being anything it wants. I'm starting to think it just the combination of the two that's the problem The heavy suit has too many limiting factors for a weapon that is only good in certain situations, which is mainly close quarters. The reason the shotgun is so good is cause you can put it on a light suit and close the distance and determine your situation. The heavy suit is supposed to allow you tank your way into an ideal situation which it fails to do in any way. Even out running a grenade is not always an option especially in tight quarters. So using the Hmg with the heavy suit is just a bad combo under the current build. We cant run away from a fight for the most part (without an LAV) Any type of open area is certain death without the ability to close the gap. The fact that dispersion does little more than tickle someone who is landing head shots on us is a but ridiculous. "Aim assist and long range weapons." We can both agree that the range we had in Chromosone may have been to much however with the range that assault rifles have combined with the aim assist and less lag the Hmg or suit needs something to make it less of "situational suit that we are not able dictate" In my opinion the HMG/ Heavy Suit is the problem fix one or the other and there may be a chance. But with the limiting factors that are imposed on the heavy suit right now just makes it no fun to play, when you can do twice as good with an AR carry other fun stuff in your equipment slot and actually play the objectives and choos your situation instead of waitng for the situation to come to you, which usually just ends in a grenade.