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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
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Posted - 2013.10.06 18:13:00 -
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Whats your best scout fit wither its galante or minmatar?
Main ones are probably:
Scout gk.0 4 complex kinetic catalyzers (faster than minmatar scout)
1 complex shield extender
1 duvolle specialist shotgun
1 active scanner
1 locus grenade
Scout mk.0 2 complex kinetic catalyzers (slower than galante scout so you probably wasted your SP)
3 complex shield extenders
1 duvolle specialist shotgun
1 active scanner
1 locus grenade |
PEW JACKSON
s i n g u l a r i t y
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Posted - 2013.10.06 18:39:00 -
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Scout mk.0: 2 complex shield extenders 1 complex light dmg mod 1 complex armor plate 1 complex armor rep Std LR Syndicate smg Std nanohive
Gallente light frame G1 series: 1 complex shield extender 1 enhance shield extender 1 enhanced armor plate 1 complex armor rep Std LR Syndicate smg Compact nanohive |
Fist Groinpunch
Goonfeet Top Men.
120
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Posted - 2013.10.06 18:40:00 -
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PEW JACKSON wrote:Scout mk.0: 2 complex shield extenders 1 complex light dmg mod 1 complex armor plate 1 complex armor rep Std LR Syndicate smg Std nanohive
So how often do you die from LR overheat?
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PEW JACKSON
s i n g u l a r i t y
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Posted - 2013.10.06 18:42:00 -
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Fist Groinpunch wrote:PEW JACKSON wrote:Scout mk.0: 2 complex shield extenders 1 complex light dmg mod 1 complex armor plate 1 complex armor rep Std LR Syndicate smg Std nanohive
So how often do you die from LR overheat?
Never. 270 shield hp, 120 after an overheat. My shield start to regen before the sieze duration is up and by the time I've reloaded, I'm back to full shields. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
745
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Posted - 2013.10.06 18:44:00 -
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Best scout fit is a not in a scout suit but a gallente logi. |
Fist Groinpunch
Goonfeet Top Men.
120
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Posted - 2013.10.06 18:48:00 -
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PEW JACKSON wrote:Fist Groinpunch wrote:PEW JACKSON wrote:Scout mk.0: 2 complex shield extenders 1 complex light dmg mod 1 complex armor plate 1 complex armor rep Std LR Syndicate smg Std nanohive
So how often do you die from LR overheat? Never. 270 shield hp, 120 after an overheat. My shield start to regen before the sieze duration is up and by the time I've reloaded, I'm back to full shields.
You never die from LR overheat? See I find that hard to believe, because that suit has what, 500 hp altogether? So if you overheat after you've taken 300 or so damage, your clone is done.
Unless you're trying to tell me that no-one ever shoots at you as you're shooting at them. |
PEW JACKSON
s i n g u l a r i t y
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Posted - 2013.10.06 18:49:00 -
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Fist Groinpunch wrote:PEW JACKSON wrote:Fist Groinpunch wrote:PEW JACKSON wrote:Scout mk.0: 2 complex shield extenders 1 complex light dmg mod 1 complex armor plate 1 complex armor rep Std LR Syndicate smg Std nanohive
So how often do you die from LR overheat? Never. 270 shield hp, 120 after an overheat. My shield start to regen before the sieze duration is up and by the time I've reloaded, I'm back to full shields. You never die from LR overheat? See I find that hard to believe, because that suit has what, 500 hp altogether? So if you overheat after you've taken 300 or so damage, your clone is done. Unless you're trying to tell me that no-one ever shoots at you as you're shooting at them.
This tells me you don't use LRs....
STD LR overheat dmg is 150. |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
536
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Posted - 2013.10.06 18:55:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Whats your best scout fit wither its galante or minmatar?
Main ones are probably:
Scout gk.0 4 complex kinetic catalyzers (faster than minmatar scout)
1 complex shield extender
1 duvolle specialist shotgun
1 active scanner
1 locus grenade
Scout mk.0 2 complex kinetic catalyzers (slower than galante scout so you probably wasted your SP)
3 complex shield extenders
1 duvolle specialist shotgun
1 active scanner A1 1 locus grenade
I think i got killed by this today was to fast to shoot thats a good fit tho if u know how to use it
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Fist Groinpunch
Goonfeet Top Men.
120
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Posted - 2013.10.06 18:55:00 -
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Mistyped.
150 hp is just under a third of your total suit HP. That's cutting it close isn't it, especially when people are shooting back at you and you are taking hits because you are aiming down sights and can't strafe as much. Also you avoided my question, and that gives me my answer. |
Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
117
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Posted - 2013.10.06 19:00:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Whats your best scout fit wither its galante or minmatar?
Main ones are probably:
Scout gk.0 4 complex kinetic catalyzers (faster than minmatar scout)
1 complex shield extender
1 duvolle specialist shotgun
1 active scanner
1 locus grenade
Scout mk.0 2 complex kinetic catalyzers (slower than galante scout so you probably wasted your SP)
3 complex shield extenders
1 duvolle specialist shotgun
1 active scanner
1 locus grenade
Min is slower but has 2 more shield extenders.. that does not make up for it?
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Ghost Kaisar
Pradox One
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Posted - 2013.10.06 19:04:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Whats your best scout fit wither its galante or minmatar?
Main ones are probably:
Scout gk.0 4 complex kinetic catalyzers (faster than minmatar scout)
1 complex shield extender
1 duvolle specialist shotgun
1 active scanner
1 locus grenade
Scout mk.0 2 complex kinetic catalyzers (slower than galante scout so you probably wasted your SP)
3 complex shield extenders
1 duvolle specialist shotgun
1 active scanner
1 locus grenade Min is slower but has 2 more shield extenders.. that does not make up for it?
GK.0 can armor tank.
Seriously, you can get a GK.0 to have insane amounts of health and still sprint fast.
Only real difference is that an MK.0 can have over 250 shields and recharge FAST. Great for hit and run. |
PEW JACKSON
s i n g u l a r i t y
71
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Posted - 2013.10.06 19:05:00 -
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Fist Groinpunch wrote:Mistyped.
150 hp is just under a third of your total suit HP. That's cutting it close isn't it, especially when people are shooting back at you and you are taking hits because you are aiming down sights and can't strafe as much. Also you avoided my question, and that gives me my answer.
270 shield HP + 243 armor hp = 513 total hp
Armor reps per sec is 6.25 Shield reps per sec is 40.
I also have a 4 second shield recharge delay with an 8 second depleted recharge time. Add that in with the smallest hit box in game + targets 70m+ away and you have a very good LR scout fit. If people get into my armor I just find cover and wait for shields to recharge. Minnie suits have the highest strafe speed in game..... I can dance around most shots coming in from 80 meters (excluding snipers). |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.06 19:07:00 -
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1 complex shield extender 3 complex armor reps 1 complex plate standard shotgun standard smg m1 locus grenades a45 active scanner |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
408
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Posted - 2013.10.06 19:08:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Athena Sentinel wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Whats your best scout fit wither its galante or minmatar?
Main ones are probably:
Scout gk.0 4 complex kinetic catalyzers (faster than minmatar scout)
1 complex shield extender
1 duvolle specialist shotgun
1 active scanner
1 locus grenade
Scout mk.0 2 complex kinetic catalyzers (slower than galante scout so you probably wasted your SP)
3 complex shield extenders
1 duvolle specialist shotgun
1 active scanner
1 locus grenade Min is slower but has 2 more shield extenders.. that does not make up for it? GK.0 can armor tank. Seriously, you can get a GK.0 to have insane amounts of health and still sprint fast. Only real difference is that an MK.0 can have over 250 shields and recharge FAST. Great for hit and run. try my gk.o fit for hit and run on a gallente |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
1126
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Posted - 2013.10.06 19:20:00 -
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Honestly, my scout fits all over the place.
One of my main fits:
Shield exterder Kincat Cardio Ferro Reactive K-5/Creodon(or however it's spelled)
Thinking about ditching kincats for another armour mod...
My basic fit is what I run 90 percent of the time in pubs:
Std shotgun M209/512/GN-20(I switch it out a lot) M1 MLT shield extender Basic reactive plate Enhanced cardio mod Basic/enhanced quantem scanner That fit runs me around 7000-13,500 isk depending what I switch out. |
Fist Groinpunch
Goonfeet Top Men.
120
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Posted - 2013.10.06 19:27:00 -
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PEW JACKSON wrote:Fist Groinpunch wrote:Mistyped.
150 hp is just under a third of your total suit HP. That's cutting it close isn't it, especially when people are shooting back at you and you are taking hits because you are aiming down sights and can't strafe as much. Also you avoided my question, and that gives me my answer. 270 shield HP + 243 armor hp = 513 total hp Armor reps per sec is 6.25 Shield reps per sec is 40. I also have a 4 second shield recharge delay with an 8 second depleted recharge time. If people get into my armor I just find cover and wait for shields to recharge. Minnie suits have the highest strafe speed in game..... I can dance around most shots coming in from 80 meters (excluding snipers). Add that in with the smallest hit box in game + fairly distant targets and you have a very good LR scout fit.
Fair enough
I'm a little jealous because my dream of running a proto Minmatar shorgun scout is so far away, yet you have access to it but instead choose to run LRs. The world is not fair. |
PEW JACKSON
s i n g u l a r i t y
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Posted - 2013.10.06 19:35:00 -
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Fist Groinpunch wrote:Fair enough I'm a little jealous because my dream of running a proto Minmatar shorgun scout is so far away, yet you have access to it but instead choose to run LRs. The world is not fair.
I used to run Proto smgs and scrambler pistols, but with the AA and strafe speed reduction, deaths became too common for me.
I don't think I'll be running Minnie scout very much after 1.5 drops though. Gallente might be the new standard for scouts with their ability to avoid scans. (lotta lows) |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
218
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Posted - 2013.10.07 15:52:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Whats your best scout fit wither its galante or minmatar?
Main ones are probably:
Scout gk.0 4 complex kinetic catalyzers (faster than minmatar scout)
1 complex shield extender
1 duvolle specialist shotgun
1 active scanner
1 locus grenade
Scout mk.0 2 complex kinetic catalyzers (slower than galante scout so you probably wasted your SP)
3 complex shield extenders
1 duvolle specialist shotgun
1 active scanner
1 locus grenade Min is slower but has 2 more shield extenders.. that does not make up for it? Speed beats HP if you can use it properly. I'm skilling into galante for it and wasted my SP on minmatar. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1479
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:37:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote: Speed beats HP if you can use it properly.
Stacking KinCats on a Scout is far less effective than other combat strategies. This is the unanimous conclusion of former speed tankers (as it relates to the current build). I'm glad to hear you're going to test it out for yourself; nothing is as persuasive as firsthand experience.
Perhaps mechanics will change down the road to the benefit of speed-tanked Scouts. If/when that occurs, I'll be right there with you stacking KinCats again. In the mean time, best of luck on your experiment. o7 |
Wey Yu
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:45:00 -
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In reference to this post here summarizing that essentialy the accumulator for stacking items finaly hits negative return, which means basicaly the energy required to fit the module is not paying out a valid energy return on its use.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1369652#post1369652
Although that is one particular item, it would surely reason other mods are also bound by the same inherent maths?
Lasor rifles in anything not able to tank at 50m is pretty risky returns. |
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
218
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:56:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote: Speed beats HP if you can use it properly.
Stacking KinCats on a Scout is far less effective than other combat strategies. This is the unanimous conclusion of former speed tankers (as it relates to the current build). I'm glad to hear you're going to test it out for yourself; nothing is as persuasive as firsthand experience. Perhaps mechanics will change down the road to the benefit of speed-tanked Scouts. If/when that occurs, I'll be right there with you stacking KinCats again. In the mean time, best of luck on your experiment. o7 Yeah thanks i've realised i can't wait for a scout buff so i've searched and found the galante scout better than minmatar scout in the way of passive scanning and speed which you possibly know assuming by your comment. |
Eyemakerwet
R 0 N 1 N
74
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:04:00 -
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Galente gko. 3x comp kin cats 1X enhanced reactive armor 1x comp shield extender K5 specialist shotgun Toxin sub M1 locust nades Basic injector |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
198
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:20:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote: Scout mk.0 (slower than galante scout so you probably wasted your SP)
No, the Scout mk.0 is if you actually want to be fast and have a decent amount of HP. At least that's why I would use it. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
219
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:21:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote: Scout mk.0 (slower than galante scout so you probably wasted your SP)
No, the Scout mk.0 is if you actually want to be fast and have a decent amount of HP. At least that's why I would use it. True but i prefer speed to HP but some HP is needed in some cases. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1659
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:29:00 -
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That's a pretty bad gk.0 build tbh. Hp>speed
Scout.gk0
Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Toxin smg Core Locus nade K2 nano 2 Enh Plates 2 Complx Rep
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
219
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:31:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:That's a pretty bad gk.0 build tbh. Hp>speed
Scout.gk0
Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Toxin smg Core Locus nade K2 nano 2 Enh Plates 2 Complx Rep
Lol lots of grenade throwing huh? that'll do with dat shotgun. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1659
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:33:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:That's a pretty bad gk.0 build tbh. Hp>speed
Scout.gk0
Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Toxin smg Core Locus nade K2 nano 2 Enh Plates 2 Complx Rep
Lol lots of grenade throwing huh? that'll do with dat shotgun. Yep lol. It's my PC fit. However I think I might downgrade the nades. Lately I've been killing myself more often then he enemy. Damn lag |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:36:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:That's a pretty bad gk.0 build tbh. Hp>speed
Scout.gk0
Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Toxin smg Core Locus nade K2 nano 2 Enh Plates 2 Complx Rep
Lol lots of grenade throwing huh? that'll do with dat shotgun. Yep lol. It's my PC fit. However I think I might downgrade the nades. Lately I've been killing myself more often then he enemy. Damn lag Never happens to me? but i do use the standard locus grenades and in some cases... i do end up blown to bits due to suicide and blowing up scouts trying to shotgun me. |
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