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P14GU3
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.10.05 05:12:00 -
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Just ran 4 pc in a row with nothing but MD. Profieciency 4. Been using MD since early chromo. Lets say I've got some experience with it and rarely go negative. Just played my first few pc matches since 1.4. Never broke a .5 kd. Scouts were beating me 1v1 in optimal range... in my 1k ehp logi. Wtf ccp, get your act together..
#AR514 |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4670
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Posted - 2013.10.05 05:14:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Just ran 4 pc in a row with nothing but MD. Profieciency 4. Been using MD since early chromo. Lets say I've got some experience with it and rarely go negative. Just played my first few pc matches since 1.4. Never broke a .5 kd. Scouts were beating me 1v1 in optimal range... in my 1k ehp logi. Wtf ccp, get your act together..
#AR514
I will teach you how to use it,Damage mods |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
416
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Posted - 2013.10.05 05:18:00 -
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First couple matches I had it fitted with double complex, one enhanced, switched it out for omni-tank cus I was getting gunned down by duvolle and krin in .3 seconds, and did worse. |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
416
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Posted - 2013.10.05 05:20:00 -
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You can get a few kills if you grab a high point still, other than that its useless... |
Omareth Nasadra
Qcgold
118
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Posted - 2013.10.05 05:20:00 -
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i'm still doing good with it, i win most of my 1v1 against any suit, altough heavy are tuff nut to crack, it's just that fully auto weapon pack a lot of dps in a short time now, you need to use cover to your advantage , direct hit the first shot, take cover and finish them with the splash, open ground you got no chance against AR wich is logic imho |
Thumb Green
Novashift
434
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Posted - 2013.10.05 05:23:00 -
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The MD is fine, it's you that is useless. Seriously, scouts can beat you? |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
416
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Posted - 2013.10.05 05:24:00 -
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Omareth Nasadra wrote:i'm still doing good with it, i win most of my 1v1 against any suit, altough heavy are tuff nut to crack, it's just that fully auto weapon pack a lot of dps in a short time now, you need to use cover to your advantage , direct hit the first shot, take cover and finish them with the splash, open ground you got no chance against AR wich is logic imho
You still talkin pc? I dom in pubs too.. I went from top 5 pc player to never breaking top 10.. |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
576
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Posted - 2013.10.05 05:26:00 -
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Play as a medic Logi and use the EC-3 or Boundless variants for optimal area denial. You'll seldom die if you can stay behind your squad and support them with reps and needles, and the kills and assists will just roll in over time. |
Wombat in combat
TeamPlayers
EoN.
100
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Posted - 2013.10.05 05:33:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Scouts were beating me 1v1 in optimal range... in my 1k ehp logi. Wtf ccp, get your act together.. I think there lies the problem, if you got a 1K HP suit you stand no chance against a clever scout because of how slow you move. But more seriously though I agree with you, the MD isn't really the best of weapons to acquire kills in PC because of all the lag. However I do not agree with you the mass driver is useless, it's a pretty beast weapon for the right circumstances. |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
533
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Posted - 2013.10.05 05:43:00 -
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LOLZ U CANT USE A WEAPON THAT U DONT NEED TO AIM OMGGGG LMAO WELL BACK TO BF4 C YA :-P |
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Omareth Nasadra
Qcgold
118
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Posted - 2013.10.05 05:43:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Omareth Nasadra wrote:i'm still doing good with it, i win most of my 1v1 against any suit, altough heavy are tuff nut to crack, it's just that fully auto weapon pack a lot of dps in a short time now, you need to use cover to your advantage , direct hit the first shot, take cover and finish them with the splash, open ground you got no chance against AR wich is logic imho You still talkin pc? I dom in pubs too.. I went from top 5 pc player to never breaking top 10.. Edit for thumb: watch some TSOLE youtube vids. On average I get top five. I'm not a great player but MD has definately taken a serious hit
well i've only PC about 10 time and went negative once (against Synertgy) with my MD, i'v adapt my style of play in PC by being less agressive and peppering them from behind the lines, lag is horrible and the explosion are better watched from a good distance, but you're right saying 1,5 has made it a lot tuffer for us |
Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Public Disorder.
535
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:03:00 -
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Stop trying to use it as a shotgun |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
416
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:15:00 -
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Vin Vicious wrote:Stop trying to use it as a shotgun
If you hadn't been camping my spawn point I would have... |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
Public Disorder.
430
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:26:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Just ran 4 pc in a row with nothing but MD. Profieciency 4. Been using MD since early chromo. Lets say I've got some experience with it and rarely go negative. Just played my first few pc matches since 1.4. Never broke a .5 kd. Scouts were beating me 1v1 in optimal range... in my 1k ehp logi. Wtf ccp, get your act together..
#AR514 I will teach you how to use it,Damage mods
Double edge sword, the more damage mods you put on it, the more useless it becomes in CQC. I've had Assaults jump in my face that my active scan didn't pick up fast enough, and there is nothing you can do as a Logi with an Assault MD. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2597
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:41:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Just ran 4 pc in a row with nothing but MD. Profieciency 4. Been using MD since early chromo. Lets say I've got some experience with it and rarely go negative. Just played my first few pc matches since 1.4. Never broke a .5 kd. Scouts were beating me 1v1 in optimal range... in my 1k ehp logi. Wtf ccp, get your act together..
#AR514
You really think its the MD on your "1K EHP LOGI" that is keeping this game back?
#scoutsneedlovetoo
#lolmando
#WTFheavy
#Swarmsarebroke
#lackofcontent
( I don't mean to sound nearly so condescending as it do. Sorry.) |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5644
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:45:00 -
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How were you using it?
I generally run point defense from a safe elevated area at least 50-100m away depending on the map layout. You can't run and gun with the thing anymore since people can actually aim at you and TTK is a complete joke thanks to the "adjustments" from 1.0-1.3 they forgot to roll back when aiming sucked.
Just be glad they ignored the QQers and didn't nerf the MD. We'd be back to 1.0 Uprising all over again... |
medomai grey
warravens
League of Infamy
193
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:17:00 -
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Mass drivers had their ability to shake the aiming reticle of anyone it hits removed. This was a pretty big change for mass drives because targets can actually aim and fire back at the mass driver user. |
Caesar Williams
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
36
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:37:00 -
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It's alot harder now. With the boundless/ assualt I usually get the high ground or behind my squad . Good for area denial and lon gharrassment. Freedom is great with repair hives backing you. Funny how the noob tube takes the most skill to use these days |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
623
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Posted - 2013.10.05 10:03:00 -
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AR can kill you in 2 seconds, MD can fire 2 projectiles in that time, even a fitted scout survives that. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
517
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Posted - 2013.10.05 10:05:00 -
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MD is fine. I believe the main purpose of the MD was to be a area denial weapon. If you want to kill, use a AR or SR. Or just "adapt or die". You know; use flux, use high ground and cover to your advantage. |
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I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
993
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Posted - 2013.10.05 10:15:00 -
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Meh.
This is why I don't play PC. |
Bob Teller
Red Star.
EoN.
82
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Posted - 2013.10.05 11:37:00 -
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:LOLZ U CANT USE A WEAPON THAT U DONT NEED TO AIM OMGGGG LMAO WELL BACK TO BF4 C YA :-P
You think bf have weaker players then Dust,lol?There is about 2-3k players playing Dust and i'm sorry to tell you but there is not a lot of pro players in Dust(not a lot means not at all). |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
354
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Posted - 2013.10.05 13:20:00 -
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then you are doing something wrong..my last md match wasa exo5 on a stnd amarian logi witha smg and flux nades..1 nano 1 injector ..ran 28/5 2300 wp..md is as it should be a situational weapon..it isnt something that is supposed to be useable on every situation..its only really supreme on certain maps. as is the laser rifle ..you should specc up another situational weapon thats optimum situation is the opposite of the md to run on less md friendly maps |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
354
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Posted - 2013.10.05 13:22:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:You can get a few kills if you grab a high point still, other than that its useless...
a md is only supposed to be used when you have the elevation advantage ..the md weakness is not in range but in the height of the user |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
110
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Posted - 2013.10.05 13:31:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:The MD is fine, it's you that is useless. Seriously, scouts can beat you?
I call bullshit on that claim. Plague is one of the best MD users I have seen, even when is sucked balls he was rocking it like a champ. I did notice a change with the mass driver last time I used it (EXO-5 w/ 2 complex dmg mods) and it seemed like I couldn't kill anyone with it, I know damn well it's not my fault. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
211
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Posted - 2013.10.05 13:43:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:The MD is fine, it's you that is useless. Seriously, scouts can beat you?
The only time i've beaten a mass driver with my scout is running away or sneaking up behind him, the natural predator of scouts The Mass Driver |
Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
115
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Posted - 2013.10.05 13:51:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:First couple matches I had it fitted with double complex, one enhanced, switched it out for omni-tank cus I was getting gunned down by duvolle and krin in .3 seconds, and did worse.
They have more SP and experience than you. You think your elite, they are. You will get there  |
JP Acuna
RoyalSquad514
19
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Posted - 2013.10.05 14:04:00 -
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It's fine.
I used it some time in my secondary character and it was great, but you have to be supportive with it. Stay behind your team, you need them. And using it as a secondary weapon could be very useful. Everyone shoots at the MD guy when they spot him, so keep low profile.
If you went 1vs1 you were doing it wrong, so it's normal getting killed by a scout or by anyone.
It's fine this way, it's not supposed to be the absolute weapon and people were abusing it a lot. We need to learn how to use guns properly, they're all for different circumstances and roles. |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
357
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Posted - 2013.10.05 14:08:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Thumb Green wrote:The MD is fine, it's you that is useless. Seriously, scouts can beat you? The only time i've beaten a mass driver with my scout is running away or sneaking up behind him, the natural predator of scouts The Mass Driver
exactly scouts asa speed clas are weakest vs area damage i.e the massdriver the fault is with the op's gun game...maybe not always but hey everyone has a ****** day |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:15:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:The MD is fine, it's you that is useless. Seriously, scouts can beat you?
LOL kinda harsh but I have to agree, how the **** do scouts kill you? |
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Dust Junky 4Life
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:18:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Just ran 4 pc in a row with nothing but MD. Profieciency 4. Been using MD since early chromo. Lets say I've got some experience with it and rarely go negative. Just played my first few pc matches since 1.4. Never broke a .5 kd. Scouts were beating me 1v1 in optimal range... in my 1k ehp logi. Wtf ccp, get your act together..
#AR514
Just by not playing for 24 hours your gun game gets thrown off. Mass driver takes just the right angle. I always try to be high up when dropping mass bombs into general public. They run like roaches. |
KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
829
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:29:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote: -- snip -- #AR514 Read the entire comment list. Interesting responses and some were quite informative.
However, your hash tag shows your true nature. You are one of the DUST QQ Kitten Core that believe Their Favorite Weapon is the only weapon. Anything CCP does that reduces your dominance makes you pour out whine like a Napa Valley party host. Game balance? What is that? Just pull the trigger and everyone else dies. Like an easy arcade game.
Well, HTFU Kitten. This is all your fault and has nothing to do with CCP.
You went into PC battles with the mind set of a MD Pub Stomper and, from what I know, that will cost you suits. Many of them. PC was mostly recently described to me as 'constant explosions of MD and grenades'. PC eats suits. And egos or at least the dreams of egos considering your post.
I have played some PC. I don't like them because I have only played once where lag didn't reduce the functionality of the team. Until that is fixed I find no reason to play them. |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
75
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:49:00 -
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Welcome to the world of aim assist, a weapon without it is at a disadvantage. |
Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
118
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Posted - 2013.10.17 02:18:00 -
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MD needs more nerf... It was never meant to be a frontline weapon like how it is used now. It needs a slower recharge time between shots. Its requires no skill to aim at the ground in front of you, spam fire button and run around in circles to max your splash damage. It should have a more strategic role on the battlefield. |
Fist Groinpunch
Goonfeet
Top Men.
125
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Posted - 2013.10.17 02:22:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:AR can kill you in 2 seconds, MD can fire 2 projectiles in that time, even a fitted scout survives that.
This right here. The AR beats the MD like a red headed step child, DPS wise.
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Skipper Jones
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
876
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Posted - 2013.10.17 02:30:00 -
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Weird. I go 19-7, 21-10, 16-1 only using the Mass Driver
Skipper Jones services available if needed  |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1002
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:09:00 -
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It's not as good as it was.
This is what happens when you rock too many ARseholes with a popular weapon.
My Shotguns and Flaylocks send their condolences from Uprising's Purgatory. HMGs and Lasers said it was pretty ****** down there. |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
2253
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:09:00 -
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You trippin', Yo! |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1110
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:13:00 -
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Pro tip:
Aim at a Fatty, you can't miss
Even if you do, he can't get outta the splash.
Seriously, Mass Drivers **** me up! |
itsmellslikefish
DIOS EX.
Top Men.
354
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:25:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Just ran 4 pc in a row with nothing but MD. Profieciency 4. Been using MD since early chromo. Lets say I've got some experience with it and rarely go negative. Just played my first few pc matches since 1.4. Never broke a .5 kd. Scouts were beating me 1v1 in optimal range... in my 1k ehp logi. Wtf ccp, get your act together..
#AR514
Good. Use a real gun. Like a plasma cannon. Seriously though, for pc plcs great ohks heavys and oneshot in the barrel means little to no friendly fire, Iv never killed a single teammate. Run it with a squad or buddy system, you get the initial shot and let teammates mop the rest up. Freddy plop! Swoooooosh boom! Complex dmg mods help. |
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McFurious
TeamPlayers
EoN.
382
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Posted - 2013.10.17 03:49:00 -
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Tek Hound wrote:Welcome to the world of aim assist, a weapon without it is at a disadvantage.
This 110% |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
1181
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Posted - 2013.10.17 04:25:00 -
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ur not using it right. get on a building and spam boundless or use it to breach and clear. it does wonders. if u think u can take anything head on with it, ur high.
i use it in pc all the time and i love it more than my tank. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
586
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Posted - 2013.10.17 05:22:00 -
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not to be a dic but MD is not supposed to be 1 v 1 weapon. When it becomes that (see pre- 1.4 aimbotless AR time) it becomes OP.
What CCP should do is improve breach weapons. Make it rewarding to use breach MD in 1v1 fights if you can land shots. Of course, that would require balancing on the part of CCP and we all know how that goes... |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
478
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:13:00 -
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Fist Groinpunch wrote:Jack McReady wrote:AR can kill you in 2 seconds, MD can fire 2 projectiles in that time, even a fitted scout survives that. This right here. The AR beats the MD like a red headed step child, DPS wise.
yes in outright face to face firing but if your a real md user you dont do that...people are constantly qqing now because aspects that were op before are now balanced scouts are no longer starfing at thier run speed..which means scout is once again only bad ass if you have skills which 80% of all scouts suck balls at thier profession the same can be said for md users ...those of us that used those spec before the ftm aspects of them see no issue with them now i killed over 100 people collectively in the 3 matches i got into where i didnt freeze yesterday ima md logi.
also try and engage your enemies from behind obvious always make sure you have the high ground and if its really an issue ..work on you head shot perfection you geta head shot from a exo5 md insta pops enemy |
superjoe360x
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
90
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Posted - 2013.10.17 11:44:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Omareth Nasadra wrote:i'm still doing good with it, i win most of my 1v1 against any suit, altough heavy are tuff nut to crack, it's just that fully auto weapon pack a lot of dps in a short time now, you need to use cover to your advantage , direct hit the first shot, take cover and finish them with the splash, open ground you got no chance against AR wich is logic imho You still talkin pc? I dom in pubs too.. I went from top 5 pc player to never breaking top 10.. Edit for thumb: watch some TSOLE youtube vids. On average I get top five. I'm not a great player but MD has definately taken a serious hit
I could show you how to its done. I typically go 20 kills or so and 2 to 3 deaths every dom I play.
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
84
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:45:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Just ran 4 pc in a row with nothing but MD. Profieciency 4. Been using MD since early chromo. Lets say I've got some experience with it and rarely go negative. Just played my first few pc matches since 1.4. Never broke a .5 kd. Scouts were beating me 1v1 in optimal range... in my 1k ehp logi. Wtf ccp, get your act together..
#AR514
Yo man, you still are playing! Haven't seen you online in forever. |
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