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Lysanna Soulreaver Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:05:00 - [1] - Quote Just got into the game today. Played a few rounds after wading through all the tech stuff on how to suit up. It was fun... really fun. So I bought two different bundle packs and gleefully started working on being a scout to help my team. Except now I am not playing against people with the same amount of SP as I do or level of gear and just get ROCKED with laser guns and tanks and all sorts of higher level gear I just do not have access to yet nor can afford. Game went from super fun to... meh in less than a few hours. I keep using the top option for fights since I THOUGHT that was supposed to be nooby friendly but apparently it is only so for about 4-5 fights then ya get thrown to the wolves and their friends (I am guessing squads can queue up together somehow?). So I want to keep playing and liking this game but I gotta know... is the only way I will be able to play and have fun by joining a group and buying a mic?
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2581	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:15:00 - [2] - Quote Lysanna Soulreaver wrote: Just got into the game today. Played a few rounds after wading through all the tech stuff on how to suit up. It was fun... really fun. So I bought two different bundle packs and gleefully started working on being a scout to help my team. Except now I am not playing against people with the same amount of SP as I do or level of gear and just get ROCKED with laser guns and tanks and all sorts of higher level gear I just do not have access to yet nor can afford. Game went from super fun to... meh in less than a few hours. I keep using the top option for fights since I THOUGHT that was supposed to be nooby friendly but apparently it is only so for about 4-5 fights then ya get thrown to the wolves and their friends (I am guessing squads can queue up together somehow?). So I want to keep playing and liking this game but I gotta know... is the only way I will be able to play and have fun by joining a group and buying a mic? Basically CCP has no controls on how player fight in this game, normally you would expect to be paired with players of the same skill level..... not in Dust, you have to harden up (not a callous comment its something Dust requires of you to be fun) and push your way through matches. Come to learn who are the tough guys and who aren't, if there are a lot of corp names on your team deploy, if not or against you then think twice and be careful. You just have to breach about 3 Million SP to be competitive. You don't always have to have a mic but it is preferable, I bought a mic for this game and have not regretted it, some of the coolest gamers I have met online I have met through dust.
Rogue Saint Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 288	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:16:00 - [3] - Quote Lysanna Soulreaver wrote: So I want to keep playing and liking this game but I gotta know... is the only way I will be able to play and have fun by joining a group and buying a mic? Welcome to dust. Unfortunately you have experienced the "cold shower" that is going from Academy Battles to Normal Battles. As you have identified you are seriously under powered to deal with this kind of play. As you know, you need to grind to get WP to get SP to get better skills and suits, which for sure is going to be hard. My advice to you is stick with your "free" suits, try not to engage the enemy head on and try and capture stuff, such as Supply Depot's, Turrets, CRU's etc. This will net you some WP to aid your SP progression. I would then think about investing in Militia Drop Uplinks, you can carry 2 and have one activated. Placing these in "good" locations will gain you more WP, thus more SP. As time goes by you will start to get a better feel for all the maps and sockets (the structures on the map) and can workout the best strategy for how to play them. After a few days you should be accruing a good amount of SP and ISK. Don't blindly spend your SP, once its spent there is no way to change your selection. Look at the different classes of suit, see what other players are doing with them on the battlefield and then decide what you want to specialise in. Yes, being in a corp and having a mic is pretty much obligatory, even if its just to run with a regular squad that can assist you. HTH
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1029	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:20:00 - [4] - Quote Lysanna Soulreaver wrote: Just got into the game today. Played a few rounds after wading through all the tech stuff on how to suit up. It was fun... really fun. So I bought two different bundle packs and gleefully started working on being a scout to help my team. Except now I am not playing against people with the same amount of SP as I do or level of gear and just get ROCKED with laser guns and tanks and all sorts of higher level gear I just do not have access to yet nor can afford. Game went from super fun to... meh in less than a few hours. I keep using the top option for fights since I THOUGHT that was supposed to be nooby friendly but apparently it is only so for about 4-5 fights then ya get thrown to the wolves and their friends (I am guessing squads can queue up together somehow?). So I want to keep playing and liking this game but I gotta know... is the only way I will be able to play and have fun by joining a group and buying a mic? Ok so it sounds like you hit the wall many of the newbies hit after their first few games. Your right, once you get a certain amount of career WP you get taken out of the noob academy and put into the "pubstomp" academy. That's a place where people like me with about 22M SP and above live. So im going to tell you right now that there is a limited number of ways you can play and be successful in this game. 1.) Join a corporation. Yes.... you do have to squad up in this game in order to get the most fun out of it. And yes, to join a corp its likely you'll have to get a mic. Its incredibly hard to function in a squad if one of the members don't have a mic. It leaves gaps in intel and get people needlessly killed. So if you want to play this game competitively, or just with other people in general. I would recommend getting a microphone. A good one can cost as much as 250$ A decent one would cost around 50$ and a serviceable one would cost between 10-30$ 2.) Use explosive weaponry. Grenades, Remote explosives, Forge guns. These are mostly one hit kills and are effectively the best way for you to kill higher level people until you unlock better weapons/suits. Its a cheesy way to play, but its effective if you get good at it, and the best part of all is that it doesn't take a lot of SP to get into any of those things! (except for grenades sort of.....). 3.) Spec into a standard heavy suit/heavy machine gun. Now you might think "what?" But hear me out. Having a Lvl1 Heavy suit, and a Lvl 1 HMG will give you just as much health as someone in a prototype Assault or logistics suit. This means that the heavy suit is the fastest way to bridge the gap between you and them. You'll have around 800-900 health and you'll get a pretty decent gun. If you play this right you should be able to kill at least one merc before dying every time, and if your lucky you'll get into a position where you can mow down several people. Keep in mind, im not saying you should stick with the heavy suit. Im just saying you should put Level 1 into the heavy basic skill (about 40k SP if im not mistaken) and just role with it. But yeah...... that's all I got dude. Good luck!
medomai grey warravens League of Infamy 186	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:20:00 - [5] - Quote It is possible to lone wolf but you'll be much more effective on the field if you can find a good squad with mics. Sounds like you just got out of CCP's academy program. Know that academy battle is not a good representation of what normal matches are like. Normal matches are brutal. I recommend joining the corp Dust University, who's mission is to help newer players.
Buttercup Chipmint Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 76	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:22:00 - [6] - Quote Do yourself a favor. RUN! Run as far away from this pile of garbage as you can. Well unless you want to pay to advance faster with boosters. Or you are a person who likes to grind, grind, grind. Shut this game off and come back in 2 years and then you will a pile of SP's to spend and might be able to compete.
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 570	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:23:00 - [7] - Quote well CCP pretty much screwed all the new players by dropping its WP count. so basically all you academy players will be thrown to us wolves in about 4-5 games of "practicing" in academy.
BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 74	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:23:00 - [8] - Quote dust is a squad based combat fps so yes usually u will need to be in a sqd to be effective but since you r a scout not so much you can ** ** up all by your self there are a ton of how to- scout posts on the forums and there is also the 'scouts united' channel pionters stay under cover dont be seen ... if you do become noticed dip and gtfo of there
Protected Void STRONG-ARMED BANDITS Public Disorder. 118	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:25:00 - [9] - Quote Lysanna Soulreaver wrote: Just got into the game today. Played a few rounds after wading through all the tech stuff on how to suit up. It was fun... really fun. So I bought two different bundle packs and gleefully started working on being a scout to help my team. Except now I am not playing against people with the same amount of SP as I do or level of gear and just get ROCKED with laser guns and tanks and all sorts of higher level gear I just do not have access to yet nor can afford. Game went from super fun to... meh in less than a few hours. I keep using the top option for fights since I THOUGHT that was supposed to be nooby friendly but apparently it is only so for about 4-5 fights then ya get thrown to the wolves and their friends (I am guessing squads can queue up together somehow?). So I want to keep playing and liking this game but I gotta know... is the only way I will be able to play and have fun by joining a group and buying a mic? Welcome, scout :-) As you note, Dust can be unforgiving for new players. Even more so if you choose hard mode - ie. playing as a scout. However, scout play is also easily one of the most fun and rewarding play styles once it starts clicking. I've played almost exclusively as a scout since the start of open beta. I do have alts with other roles, but I have way more fun as a scout. Best tip is to try to be clever about your movement. Never, ever attack anyone head-on as a scout. Flank around and surprise them. Try to use high alpha damage weapons, ie. weapons that let you do lots of damage in one go and then hide. Currently the Assault Rifle is also good for almost anything, but it's likely to get re-profiled in the future. Find a good corporation that suits your sensibilities. I can't stress this point enough. Getting some nice people to play with and cooperate with on a regular basis really makes a difference in this game. There are very few obscenity-screaming fourteen year olds, so a mic is also recommended. Last, but definitely not least, check out the Scout Registry - this forums largest thread, chock full of useful info, tips and friendly people that want to help you and know what you're going through. PS: Also, be selective about which forum threads you invest your time in. This forum has a few fistfuls of negative, wannabe hardballs that don't really contribute anything useful.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1586	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:25:00 - [10] - Quote My advice will be; spec into one of the Low Risk classes first. For example ; - Sniper - Heavy - Logistics Ones you have enough SP, spec into the High Risk Classes. Like for example ; - Scout - Assault - Tanks / Dropships - Commando And so on.

Rogue Saint Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 288	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:25:00 - [11] - Quote Buttercup Chipmint wrote: Do yourself a favor. RUN! Run as far away from this pile of garbage as you can. Well unless you want to pay to advance faster with boosters. Or you are a person who likes to grind, grind, grind. Shut this game off and come back in 2 years and then you will a pile of SP's to spend and might be able to compete. Please take your own advice. I bet you're one of the people who QQ about numbers dropping too!
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 374	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:29:00 - [12] - Quote If I understand the match making system, big if, then if you did well in the Academy I.e. a decent or high KDR then you will be put in the high difficulty matches generally against high ability and or high SP toons. However, if you are overmatched and your KDR plummets as a result then match making will start to place you in matches against lower ability players. Gradually you should reach equilibrium when it comes to the individual matches you are placed in. However, as others have said if you see organised squads, generally from the same corp, on the opposing team be cautious in your play. Eventually you will start to remember the names of the tougher players and corps. Finally squads are the most dangerous thing in a battle especially if they are on coms.
RED-EYE -JEDI RETR0 PR0 GAMERS 6	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:29:00 - [13] - Quote Lysanna Soulreaver wrote: Just got into the game today. Played a few rounds after wading through all the tech stuff on how to suit up. It was fun... really fun. So I bought two different bundle packs and gleefully started working on being a scout to help my team. Except now I am not playing against people with the same amount of SP as I do or level of gear and just get ROCKED with laser guns and tanks and all sorts of higher level gear I just do not have access to yet nor can afford. Game went from super fun to... meh in less than a few hours. I keep using the top option for fights since I THOUGHT that was supposed to be nooby friendly but apparently it is only so for about 4-5 fights then ya get thrown to the wolves and their friends (I am guessing squads can queue up together somehow?). So I want to keep playing and liking this game but I gotta know... is the only way I will be able to play and have fun by joining a group and buying a mic? free free to send an application to my corp, i have been playing for about 8months and i will gladly help in anyway. we squad up alot to so we use tactics together on the battle field over mic. it definately helps mate. join our chat channel RPG PUBLIC.
RED-EYE -JEDI RETR0 PR0 GAMERS 6	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:30:00 - [14] - Quote Lysanna Soulreaver wrote: Just got into the game today. Played a few rounds after wading through all the tech stuff on how to suit up. It was fun... really fun. So I bought two different bundle packs and gleefully started working on being a scout to help my team. Except now I am not playing against people with the same amount of SP as I do or level of gear and just get ROCKED with laser guns and tanks and all sorts of higher level gear I just do not have access to yet nor can afford. Game went from super fun to... meh in less than a few hours. I keep using the top option for fights since I THOUGHT that was supposed to be nooby friendly but apparently it is only so for about 4-5 fights then ya get thrown to the wolves and their friends (I am guessing squads can queue up together somehow?). So I want to keep playing and liking this game but I gotta know... is the only way I will be able to play and have fun by joining a group and buying a mic?
DS 10 Will Ring For Booze 1028	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:32:00 - [15] - Quote www.youtube.com/user/DSTheDrunkHeavy Check out my New Players' Guide playlist. Also join the channel DRUNK NIGHT. I'll be on pretty much all weekend. Hit me up for some games.
Guinevere Bravo SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 429	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:33:00 - [16] - Quote SPECIALISE. SPECIALISE. SPECIALISE For a Infantry Assault/ Logi. Grab the AR and hit Level V with that in a week. Now you have a staple weapon good for all engagements. Wether you choose to pump more SP into it at a later stage is your choice. Now pick a suit. Going for looks is a good way to start, may i suggest you goto the maket place and press square on the proto suits and check out what looks sexiest to you. Now press triangle on the skill you need for the suit, it will tell you what bonus you receive, take this into account also. Assault suits, can carry 2 weapons Main/side arm. Have a better starting tank and faster run speed than a logi variant. Logi suits, can only carry 1 weapon (Except the Amar logi, hense why the suit has a few more shortfalls) have between 3-4 equipment slots for nanohives (ammo), Uplinks(Spawn points), Nanite Injectors (Rezes!), Repair tools (Guess what?), Scanners (Light the enemy up) and lastly Remote explosives (C4 Esk' Remote detonation). Normally fit a nice big tank. Mediocre run speeds (except the Minmatar) and larger than assault sig radius i believe. Now; Amarr 'Dual Tank' shields or armor, can be tanked both offers good versatility. Slowish run speed crappy sig radius. More SP require to 'Max' the suit. Caldari Shield tankers a decent choice and a popular one currently. Decent run speed & sig radius. Gallente Armor tankers another decent choice, abit sneakier (lower sig radius) and slower than others. Easy to Max the core skills you need to get the max bonus, easier to fit with the skill bonus's. Minmatar, I find the Assault suit is pure shield, whilst the Logi can be dual tanked ala the Amar suit. Fastest suits in game, decent sig profile and racial skills are handy. Id say was middle of the road for skills to max out out of the four. Once you have a suit and a gun then start working on your tank (HP) shield/armor skills. Max the one which is more important and appropriate to YOUR suit. Now, when you get to this stage its a good idea to start hitting the dropsuit upgrades tab hard, it will apply to all your suits. Biotic upgrades (Run faster) Fitting Skills Electronics/Engineering to incease CPU/PG. One tip; PRESS TRIANGLE BEFORE YOU INVEST SP INTO THE SKILL, IT WILL TELL YOU WHAT IT DOES!! EDIT HOW DID I MISS THE BIT ABOUT SCOUTS!! PAGING SINBOTO SIMMONS. GL HH o7
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Top Men. 132	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:44:00 - [17] - Quote Find a good group of players to squad with. Solo play is for the hardened few who will never burnout. Microphone isn't necessary per se, but highly recommended. Lots of ways to be good at the game, test out different things (except vehicles as they are utter **** right now) and specialize into something you like. Be careful with your skillpoints as they are gone once spent. Off topic: I wonder how many new players just rage quit after going through the OP's experience? :(
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 588	Posted - 2013.10.04 13:03:00 - [18] - Quote I'm a scout too and we are having a tough time. Eventually cloaking will solve all my problems. Yeah, join a corp and play with them. Keep on grinding, the game will hopefully get balanced.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 486	Posted - 2013.10.04 13:09:00 - [19] - Quote Lysanna Soulreaver wrote: Just got into the game today. Played a few rounds after wading through all the tech stuff on how to suit up. It was fun... really fun. So I bought two different bundle packs and gleefully started working on being a scout to help my team. Except now I am not playing against people with the same amount of SP as I do or level of gear and just get ROCKED with laser guns and tanks and all sorts of higher level gear I just do not have access to yet nor can afford. Game went from super fun to... meh in less than a few hours. I keep using the top option for fights since I THOUGHT that was supposed to be nooby friendly but apparently it is only so for about 4-5 fights then ya get thrown to the wolves and their friends (I am guessing squads can queue up together somehow?). So I want to keep playing and liking this game but I gotta know... is the only way I will be able to play and have fun by joining a group and buying a mic? You my friend just got a big dose of CCPs bait and switch. Once you get out of Academy mode you get introduced to the Protostomp. It's the thing that devolves this game down to frat brat epeen mode.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1065	Posted - 2013.10.04 13:19:00 - [20] - Quote i'll post an effective AR build that should suit you to getting up to par in matches. this is in order but I will be skipping the pre reqs, I apologize if the name of the skills are off. gallente medium frame to 1 assault rifles operation to 3 assault rifle sharp shooter to 2 gallente medium frame to 3 gallente logistics suit to 1 active scanner to 1 nano to 1( giving access to nano hives and nanite injectors basic ). grenades to level 2( this will give you access to all 3 basic grenades mainly AV grenades ). remote explosives to rank 1 shields operation to 2( increases your maximum shields ) armor operation to 2 ( increases your maximum armor ) armor plates to 3 armor repair to 3 damage mod skill to level 1 gallente logistics suit to rank 3 from here you can pretty much do what you want, either speccing further into your tanking skills, or going further into your weapon or logistics skills depending on how you wish to operate. the main way you will play this fit is use your scanners to scout ahead find enemies and shoot them in the back, try to avoid front on engagements, be smart and place your remote explosives in key spots to kill the enemies, stick close to cover until your tanking skills are higher. I can give you effective builds for other classes but honestly the medium suits are best for people just starting out, and I can't really suggest speccing into the others without practice. even heavy is a very specific style of play.

Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 342	Posted - 2013.10.04 13:21:00 - [21] - Quote Lysanna Soulreaver wrote: Just got into the game today. Played a few rounds after wading through all the tech stuff on how to suit up. It was fun... really fun. So I bought two different bundle packs and gleefully started working on being a scout to help my team. Except now I am not playing against people with the same amount of SP as I do or level of gear and just get ROCKED with laser guns and tanks and all sorts of higher level gear I just do not have access to yet nor can afford. Game went from super fun to... meh in less than a few hours. I keep using the top option for fights since I THOUGHT that was supposed to be nooby friendly but apparently it is only so for about 4-5 fights then ya get thrown to the wolves and their friends (I am guessing squads can queue up together somehow?). So I want to keep playing and liking this game but I gotta know... is the only way I will be able to play and have fun by joining a group and buying a mic? yes and most of the groups are gone or have such low player counts that it still doe not matter and even with allies the game is still no fun once you realize how out of balance everything is.
Meeko Fent DUST University Ivy League 1059	Posted - 2013.10.04 13:31:00 - [22] - Quote You can't. 6 infini-ISK Protosuits with double the EHP and much more DPS v. 1 broke as ****, 4-600 EHP, standard damage bluedot You cannot resist. No matter what you do. No. Matter. What.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 839	Posted - 2013.10.04 13:32:00 - [23] - Quote Play the outlying areas of the map to get going. Learn to navigate the structures and terrain. Use a sniper rifle to watch for hot spots and how the common player uses them. Squad up. Add "Chat.D-Uni" (no quotes) to your channels for tons of help. Party on dudes.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1065	Posted - 2013.10.04 13:36:00 - [24] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: You can't. 6 infini-ISK Protosuits with double the EHP and much more DPS v. 1 broke as ****, 4-600 EHP, standard damage bluedot You cannot resist. No matter what you do. No. Matter. What. ahhh but dust U tries so hard =(
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 1019	Posted - 2013.10.04 14:15:00 - [25] - Quote Welcome to New Eden, Lysanna Soulreaver. It is typically a rocky road here for the first few weeks but if you stick with it this will improve and you'll find yourself in some great adrenalin-filled matches. Lots of great advice in this thread, and i don't have much to add but i do want to point out one thing. Many of the vets here who are stronger players can roll a noob character, graduate from the academy in one match, and then go positive kdr and earn good ISK/skillpoints in pub matches. This is because in DUST, knowledge of game mechanics and FPS skill and battlefield awareness and tactics are as important as gear or skillpoints. In fact they're more important. Many peeps might take exception with what i'm saying because they don't like an uneven playing field and they don't like the way noobs get hammered in DUST because it drive potential players away and we really need more players. My point is that although SP and gear do make a big difference, stopping to think about how you're playing and how and when to engage an enemy in DUST will net you bigger rewards in the long run. This is especially important for solo players who don't have the safety net/force multiplyer that running with a squad provides. And while you're going through this admittedly painful process and start to get your feet under you, start to think about what you want CCP to put in the tutorial. o7. See you out there.
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 264	Posted - 2013.10.04 14:47:00 - [26] - Quote The strength of a scout lies in engagement management: -MOST IMPORTANTLY: Learn the maps/sockets -Learn the weapon types, especially their effective ranges -Do not get scanned, ever. -Retreat if scanned/seen -Dont run straight to your destination or in straight lines The depth of this game is amazing and academy grads, given the right know-how, can build suits that will wreck IN THEIR OPTIMUM ENVIRONMENT: damped range scout w REs, scanning laser scout with damage mods, speed-modded shotgun scout, etc. And accept that enemy positions change SO fast in this game! The best advice i can offer is to invest a day's worth of passive SP into active scanners and run around in a damped fit for a few days seeing what your playstyle is: intel gathering, sabotaging enemy equipment behind lines, planting advantageous uploaded uplinks, trapping/REs, etc. Read Shotty Gobang's scout registry post. LFS in SCOUTS UNITED in-game channel (lightning xvx, fusion commander, sinboto simmons, lightning bolt2, djinn marauder). Join d-uni for a week and read the articles. Join R 0 N 1 n and squad with proto scouts. ...stop rushing heavies straight on. STOP PLAYING ONLY AMBUSH o7 pseudo
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 264	Posted - 2013.10.04 14:55:00 - [27] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=90055 Note the correlation between kill count and KDR
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 304	Posted - 2013.10.04 15:07:00 - [28] - Quote First off, thanks for coming to the forum and asking about your issues rather than turning around and leaving. Secondly, here's my advice to a better experience in Dust: The matchmaking in Dust isn't very good, but it exists and it can be worked with. If the games you are getting in are too difficult, you may want to die a a lot for a couple of games. The matchmaking will reconsider it's believe in your capabilities and put you in games with less able mercenaries. I did this purposefully with an alt of mine to have somewhere to practice some fun but inefficient tactics and it helped me avoid the more difficult matches. Other than that I'd like to repeat what has been said before in this thread: There are easy and tough roles on the battlefield. Try finding a nieche that allows you to have fun. Depending on your personality you may want to face a superior enemy 1-v-1 as an assault guy until you're better then them, or maybe you rather want to assist others in being able to win the fight by being a Logibro, or maybe you want to be the big guy in the center of the battle. Just take a tour of the battlefield, observe what the others are doing and consider whether you'd find this fun.
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 622	Posted - 2013.10.04 15:10:00 - [29] - Quote Lysanna Soulreaver wrote: Just got into the game today. Played a few rounds after wading through all the tech stuff on how to suit up. It was fun... really fun. So I bought two different bundle packs and gleefully started working on being a scout to help my team. Except now I am not playing against people with the same amount of SP as I do or level of gear and just get ROCKED with laser guns and tanks and all sorts of higher level gear I just do not have access to yet nor can afford. Game went from super fun to... meh in less than a few hours. I keep using the top option for fights since I THOUGHT that was supposed to be nooby friendly but apparently it is only so for about 4-5 fights then ya get thrown to the wolves and their friends (I am guessing squads can queue up together somehow?). So I want to keep playing and liking this game but I gotta know... is the only way I will be able to play and have fun by joining a group and buying a mic? no, but if you're serious, then the best way is to join a group and get a mic. you need to be able to listen even if you don't talk much. you'd be surprised the effect that having people to ask questions can have on your game.
BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 77	Posted - 2013.10.04 17:43:00 - [30] - Quote for TRAINING as a ninja you should apply to RONIN they are a scout training corp lead by lightning i do believe who is at the tops of the scout killboard

Lysanna Soulreaver Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.10.04 18:17:00 - [31] - Quote Thank you all for your replies and not just telling me to L2PNoob. I guess I will just have to find a suitable mic when I get the chance and hope that somehow I can figure out which Corps I should be looking at. Just felt really upset that this game went so fast from "Oh wow guys... ya see what I just did there??!!" to, "Oh wow guys... any chance I'll get more than 5 feet before something random blows my head off?" Not giving up yet... mainly because I spent money already and I want my monies worth. I totally could see how someone with no investment in the game would drop it like a bad habit once they "discovered" the "joys" of playing against pre-made squads.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 397	Posted - 2013.10.04 18:20:00 - [32] - Quote squad up with higher tier players
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 397	Posted - 2013.10.04 18:23:00 - [33] - Quote BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI wrote: for TRAINING as a ninja you should apply to RONIN they are a scout training corp lead by lightning i do believe who is at the tops of the scout killboard this^ and join Scouts United in game chat and take a look at the thread (alot of great scouting info) and you have chosen Scout one if not the hardest roles to fill in DUST but stick with it we need more
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 87	Posted - 2013.10.04 18:47:00 - [34] - Quote Lysanna Soulreaver wrote: Just got into the game today. Played a few rounds after wading through all the tech stuff on how to suit up. It was fun... really fun. So I bought two different bundle packs and gleefully started working on being a scout to help my team. Except now I am not playing against people with the same amount of SP as I do or level of gear and just get ROCKED with laser guns and tanks and all sorts of higher level gear I just do not have access to yet nor can afford. Game went from super fun to... meh in less than a few hours. I keep using the top option for fights since I THOUGHT that was supposed to be nooby friendly but apparently it is only so for about 4-5 fights then ya get thrown to the wolves and their friends (I am guessing squads can queue up together somehow?). So I want to keep playing and liking this game but I gotta know... is the only way I will be able to play and have fun by joining a group and buying a mic? Go and play something else for 6 months and leave your character to gain passive sp ... you gain 198k passive sp per week or 28k per day .. you could technically log on each day to gain 3-6k bonus sp which would take you to 240k sp per week .. honestly if you play this game for 6 months you will be so annnoyed and bored with it that you'll likely quit and not want to come back,,, racial variants and new equipment vehicles suits and weapons are being introduced over the next 6 months so really it would be best to just make 2 PSN accounts create 2 characters activate passive SP on each account and come back in 6 months , there will be more content more bugs and glitches should be fixed plus you'll have 5m sp + to use which will allow you to start playing competetively ... you cant reallocate sp and you dont get respecs on this game so with loads of new content being added it is not a good time to skill into stuff so either play in militia gear for the time being and dont spend any sp or do my original suggestion and dont play for 6 months .... This game is absolute hell for new players .. Im not trying to turn you away im just trying to let you know what you're in for ... fact is every suggestion on this page is from a perspective of people who started their characters in BETA before the surge of protobears pubstomping all the time they dont know what they are talking about ... I'm sure you aren;t on this game to speak to people .. that's what facebook/twitter is for .. you are here to have fun ..
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 401	Posted - 2013.10.04 19:39:00 - [35] - Quote I didn't see this mentioned but use your skill points wisely focus mainly on core skills found in the dropsuit upgrades section of skills this will buff up any suit you may want or need to use when upgrading skills levels levels 1-3-5 are the most effective besides some weapon and equipment skills
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 265	Posted - 2013.10.04 19:45:00 - [36] - Quote Learn the maps, learn the weapons, gossip with squad mates. Any bluetooth earpiece used for a mobile phone will work...thrift store $3. Create some alts that specialize into sniper, heavy, and assault and learn THEIR weaknesses so you can exploit them as a scout. Remote explosives I Scrambler rifle I Laser rifle I Active Scanner I Drop Uplinks I Mass driver ^will give you some things to experiment with. Also, militia gear uses more cpu/pg than STD gear, keep that in mind when you run into problems fitting gear on a suit you're trying to create. And take it easy. Scout suits take 20-25M SP to round out fully (blame biotics and electronics)...so dont burn out, enjoy the game.
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 292	Posted - 2013.10.04 19:54:00 - [37] - Quote I've never joined a squad and used mic ever. Been here since a few updates before uprising, in like september, and I still like the game.
BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 81	Posted - 2013.10.06 03:47:00 - [38] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've never joined a squad and used mic ever. Been here since a few updates before uprising, in like september, and I still like the game. you are the few, the proud, the brave
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 737	Posted - 2013.10.06 03:58:00 - [39] - Quote Ohhh I remember when i first played dust I always ran the medic class with a massdriver yup those were the days of endless tears yet I toughed though it and know all I do is isk farm in my bpo suits.
Lysanna Soulreaver Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2013.10.12 02:42:00 - [40] - Quote Bought a mic. Figured I would use it if not here then on another game eventually. I know PTT is set for left Keypad by default. Is voice only on during matches? Joined a few squads with the squad finder but I either got kicked before match (no warning or notice) or I just sat there staring at the social screen and nothing happened.

Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1459	Posted - 2013.10.12 02:47:00 - [41] - Quote It's a jagged little pill. I kid you not, its going to be ROUGH. I do mean, ROUGH! I got my ass handed to me so fast...I just couldn't believe it. If you don't find a corporation to grow with or you just want to run solo, your best bet is to stick to squad finder. Run with a squad always. Follow them everywhere, not matter how anxious you are to run on your own and shoot a merc, stick with your squad. Everyone has been where you at except for the folks who played since beta. Stick it out, its a grind but its well worth it. I will be more than happy to squad with you if you like as well. Just add me as contact in game.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 576	Posted - 2013.10.12 04:08:00 - [42] - Quote level up sniper rifle and go hid in the redline with a good SR and a free starter suit. Beyond that there is no hope for you.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1130	Posted - 2013.10.12 04:18:00 - [43] - Quote 1) Buy a mic 2) Find friends to play with [at least 5 others] 3) Get 3 million SP. You'll be able to run a good advanced suit. 6 = proto
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 263	Posted - 2013.10.12 09:01:00 - [44] - Quote And this ladies and gents is why people who play in new eden shine above every other gaming community out there. Everyone is willing to help people, from the nastiest pirate to the honorguard of a militia, every single player has something to contribute to keep a newbro around just a bit longer. (all my advice had already been mentioned so nothing more to add)
The Eristic Dust 90210 40	Posted - 2013.10.12 09:43:00 - [45] - Quote Lysanna Soulreaver wrote: Bought a mic. Figured I would use it if not here then on another game eventually. I know PTT is set for left Keypad by default. Is voice only on during matches? Joined a few squads with the squad finder but I either got kicked before match (no warning or notice) or I just sat there staring at the social screen and nothing happened. Make sure voice chat is enabled in settings, turn PTT off (unless you REALLY want to use it; PROTIP: You don't.), select the squad channel, then "activate voice". A green light will appear on the channel for which you have voice activated. It make take a few moments for it to start working. Also, if your squadmates aren't mic'd up, you won't hear anything, though they may be able to hear you (depending on their settings).
Lysanna Soulreaver Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2013.10.13 00:11:00 - [46] - Quote Finally got the mic working. Squaded up a bit and the game was quite different for sure. Not sure where I should hang my hat corp wise... wanna choose one that has people playing and tolerant of my noobishness. Starting to think like a scout though.... scanning like a mofo and then running like a girl if they are coming my way... lol.
BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 119	Posted - 2013.10.13 00:17:00 - [47] - Quote Lysanna Soulreaver wrote: Finally got the mic working. Squaded up a bit and the game was quite different for sure. Not sure where I should hang my hat corp wise... wanna choose one that has people playing and tolerant of my noobishness. Starting to think like a scout though.... scanning like a mofo and then running like a girl if they are coming my way... lol. as a scout always try to engage from the back or if they are occupied the flank is satifactory ..but risky ps if you are in game now 00.20 eve time hmu an we can ninja it up
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 276	Posted - 2013.10.13 01:18:00 - [48] - Quote Lysanna Soulreaver wrote: Just got into the game today. Played a few rounds after wading through all the tech stuff on how to suit up. It was fun... really fun. So I bought two different bundle packs and gleefully started working on being a scout to help my team. Except now I am not playing against people with the same amount of SP as I do or level of gear and just get ROCKED with laser guns and tanks and all sorts of higher level gear I just do not have access to yet nor can afford. Game went from super fun to... meh in less than a few hours. I keep using the top option for fights since I THOUGHT that was supposed to be nooby friendly but apparently it is only so for about 4-5 fights then ya get thrown to the wolves and their friends (I am guessing squads can queue up together somehow?). So I want to keep playing and liking this game but I gotta know... is the only way I will be able to play and have fun by joining a group and buying a mic? my recommendations are: 1: Don't spend any real money on the game until you get at least 3mill sp. I say this because right now its going to mostly be a waste. Once you have a few million sp you can start to specialize and spending aurum will let you get early access to better gear. 2: I do recommend a mic. It doesnt have to be anything fancy and there are some very cheap ones out there. But communication in this game helps greatly. 3: Squad up. Hopefully you can find players willing to teach you a bit about the game and teamwork. Maybe even get invited to a nice corp.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 626	Posted - 2013.10.13 01:46:00 - [49] - Quote My advice, join d-Uni and well get ya up and running and then you should be fine. :)
Seeth Mensch highland marines 43	Posted - 2013.10.22 20:05:00 - [50] - Quote So many folks had such great info. I have nothing to contribute beyond: This game punishes being new. It's sad, but true. I had the same blast of fun you did, then was really confused why I was suddenly miserable for a while. I wish CCP would break people down into tier: academy, then x amount of SP, with several brackets, and an "unlimited" for the hardcore players. Maybe give those guys some more ISK for their game :) Join the HighLonesome channel some time, I play pretty frequently and we have a good crew--plus some scouts to run with! We can chat with that mic you'll be getting/have gotten already. Hope you are having fun.

Michael Cratar Fenrir's Wolves DARKSTAR ARMY 252	Posted - 2013.10.22 20:16:00 - [51] - Quote Lysanna Soulreaver wrote: Just got into the game today. Played a few rounds after wading through all the tech stuff on how to suit up. It was fun... really fun. So I bought two different bundle packs and gleefully started working on being a scout to help my team. Except now I am not playing against people with the same amount of SP as I do or level of gear and just get ROCKED with laser guns and tanks and all sorts of higher level gear I just do not have access to yet nor can afford. Game went from super fun to... meh in less than a few hours. I keep using the top option for fights since I THOUGHT that was supposed to be nooby friendly but apparently it is only so for about 4-5 fights then ya get thrown to the wolves and their friends (I am guessing squads can queue up together somehow?). So I want to keep playing and liking this game but I gotta know... is the only way I will be able to play and have fun by joining a group and buying a mic? It happens. CCP has worked on this for a while. Problem is, its tricky to get working. Just push through it. It's your only option atm.
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 154	Posted - 2013.10.22 20:31:00 - [52] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: And this ladies and gents is why people who play in new eden shine above every other gaming community out there. Everyone is willing to help people, from the nastiest pirate to the honorguard of a militia, every single player has something to contribute to keep a newbro around just a bit longer. (all my advice had already been mentioned so nothing more to add) Even though the biggest reason new players leave is being protostomped ? Yeah great community, use the best gear you possibly can in a public gamemode filled with the new and inexperienced and then proceed to improve your KD/R by slaughtering them ... Even at Advanced you get slaughtered by protostompers the only difference is that you then have a huge advantage over the other new guys using STD and miltia to balance it out


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