So...... Aurum refund when the game goes live !? CCP when Is the real release date quit trollin us brahz.....

I thought drop ships, and assault drop ships were...to quote a few.

over priced, broken, useless, waste of sp, that can be so easily destroyed by forge guns that they have no need to exist.

if this is the case I think the game can survive a month while they fit them into the new build of the game, I won't say 1.7 because it could be 1.8 or further when everything is back in place.

the players want a total re-balance of vehicles and that's what they are getting.

I thought drop ships, and assault drop ships were...to quote a few.

over priced, broken, useless, waste of sp, that can be so easily destroyed by forge guns that they have no need to exist.

if this is the case I think the game can survive a month while they fit them into the new build of the game, I won't say 1.7 because it could be 1.8 or further when everything is back in place.

the players want a total re-balance of vehicles and that's what they are getting.

Nope. A thriving community for the ADS. Check out condor squad chat channel.

I thought drop ships, and assault drop ships were...to quote a few.

over priced, broken, useless, waste of sp, that can be so easily destroyed by forge guns that they have no need to exist.

if this is the case I think the game can survive a month while they fit them into the new build of the game, I won't say 1.7 because it could be 1.8 or further when everything is back in place.

the players want a total re-balance of vehicles and that's what they are getting.

how would you feel if the weapon you use 90% of the time was taken out for months?

I use a lot of weapons now, and I'm even specced into two suits, snipers get nerfed every other patch, and I am expecting them to be useless in the near future, and I'm prepared for anything I'm specced into to become useless at any time. I don't have low sp anymore so all my eggs aren't in one basket anymore.

This just in. CCP is taking assault ships out of EVE to rebalance all ships.

jk

Seriously, do you think they would do that? Have they ever done that?

Who takes stuff out of a game that is out of beta?

If removal of ADS among other things is not proof that this game is still beta and CCP is treating it like that I don't know what is.

Way to lose more player base CCP. I hope you can make this game last long enough to jump the fissure of this game's development and it still mattering to anybody by the time you get it "balanced".

Oh, and for those DS pilots stayingGǪ better learn to dive bomb. Stick with the cheap ships for that.

You have to explain that one to me because I'm a sniper and far as I can tell they haven't changed like ever so plz explain this so called nerf because I don't see it

Taking out the Assault Dropship to focus on balancing the core of vehicle gameplay just because it is a branch off of the dropships makes just as much sense as taking out the logistics dropsuit to focus on balancing the core of infantry gameplay just because it is a branch off of medium frames.

if they are removed then they would probably just do what they did every other time skills got removed and refund the sp spent on the skill used to get it.

Imagine how much happier that community would be with a proper Gunship to replace the ADS.

I really think that that's what should be pushed for. I would figure that you keep Logistics Dropships, add in a Black Ops variant with cloaking bonuses to move people covertly, and keep them in all cases fixed in the transport role.

A Gunship would be far more maneuverable and useful for supporting ground troops anyway.

depends on how you look at it, assault drops ships were an ill thought quick fix to making drop ships useful, not quite full gun ships they just strapped a turret to the front of the ship and didn't even bother making much of a new model. the controls didn't complement because they didn't spend much time on it.

now if they were doing a full redo of the vehicles wouldn't it make sense to just focus the dropships on being good drop ***** and create a gun ship class to take the place of an assault drop ship?

in the end I don't really know what they have planned, as stated by many they haven't been clear on this at all, you could be right and this could be a stupid waste of a ship, or it might be for the better, I don't ave the information to judge it yet.

Imagine how much happier that community would be with a proper Gunship to replace the ADS.

I really think that that's what should be pushed for. I would figure that you keep Logistics Dropships, add in a Black Ops variant with cloaking bonuses to move people covertly, and keep them in all cases fixed in the transport role.

A Gunship would be far more maneuverable and useful for supporting ground troops anyway.

If all you can think about is kills with a dropship then I honestly think you shouldn't be flying them as dropships are more designed or at least was intended to be transports and the ASD was a poor excuse of a gunship but thats just how I feel

well since chrome...

- Draw distance nerf prevents us from firing at optimal range like before chrome.

- Charge sniper has increased in price and quadrupled in cpu and pg.

- Armor has recieved a major buff while the SR damage remains the same.

- The designers are now designing their maps with the intention of preventing snipers from covering points. as seen with the recent maps and quoted by the gm's.


There are other things that have changed but they all follow this pattern, in general the snipers don't change like you said the game just changes around them for the worse.

What is with this argument? Look, you know what a gunship can't do that an ADS can do? Transport 4 players! If and when they add a gunship, I highly doubt it will have that many passenger slots. I know a lot of people may overlook this, but those four passenger slots are pretty huge to how many play the ADS. I will basically take my squad from base to base while providing aerial support (and freeing up one extra teammate who doesn't need to stay on board to gun). The ADS is not a poor man's excuse for a gunship at all! Rather it is an extremely versatile support vehicle, and a pretty important one to the current state of vehicle balance. Even if they were to add in a gunship, I would probably still use ADS most the time just because of how important those 4 passenger seats are to my play style.

I too am now beginning to fear CCP will never re-implement the ADS since this "gunships will make them obsolete" thing that's gaining steam.