DUST Search - Vehicle HP buff is a lie!

Keri Starlight wrote:

The legend345 wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Pandora Mars wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

The only vehicle to lose out on HP was the Saga.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdFZ2ZzEyNW1neVdqYUF4bXU5NUdUOXc#gid=0

Where those values are coming from? LOL, they are completely wrong!

Both Gunny and Maddie have 3250 on their main attribute and 1250 as secondary.

Armor tanks will get a slight buff to the basic HP (but an overall nerf), while shield tanks are being COMPLETELY nerfed!

Yay! (sarcasm overload)

Dust 514 info wikia website started by the SC guys I believe. I know the wikia website is ages wrong. My own database dumps are useless and sadly there is no easy access to dust 514 items outside the client to which I have little to no access to this week.

New Numbers of course are pulled straight from the post.

Module slots equals Effective HP. Less spots less Effective HP. This has been TheLegend345 walking you through commonsense Smile

Not only, but as I said Armor tanks at least will get a (ridicolously) slight HP buff to the empty hull, while shield tanks not. They are just getting nerfed.

Gunny: 3250 -> 2650 shields

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Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 595	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:50:00 - [1] - Quote Please stop! Just stop! Stop saying all vehicles are getting a HP buff! For your information, a Gunnlogi has currently 3250 shields (empty hull) and it's being NERFED to 2650. What the hell is wrong with you guys? Turn your PS3 on, run DUST 514 and check the Gunnlogi's HP! This is a direct nerf to Shield tanks! WTH, CCP? But especially WTH, tankers? Don't you know your own vehicle's HP? Coup de grace to shield tanks.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1203	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:52:00 - [2] - Quote Well... Technically with the batshit resists, if you dedicate one-third of your prefered module slots to one then your EHP goes through the roof... Trick is to not get insta-popped by a FG sniper in your ginormous cooldowns... Which is hilarious considering the "slower" Gunnies are supposed to be hit-and-run... Only time will tell shrugs I'm skilling into FGs though to prepare for all the free meals in 1.7
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1054	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:53:00 - [3] - Quote We know, Dropships got one. Damn you can't read. Land vehicles are becoming overall **** in this game.....
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 595	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:56:00 - [4] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Well... Technically with the batshit resists, if you dedicate one-third of your prefered module slots to one then your EHP goes through the roof... Trick is to not get insta-popped by a FG sniper in your ginormous cooldowns... Which is hilarious considering the "slower" Gunnies are supposed to be hit-and-run... Only time will tell shrugs I'm skilling into FGs though to prepare for all the free meals in 1.7 My gunny currently has 4960 shields with just the basic hull and a supplemental shield extender. The new PROTO (lolwut) extender gives me 1325 shields, for a total of 3375 (it's a 1000 shields nerf and I'm getting 250 armor from the basic hull instead, which is useless). I don't even want to talk about the speed....
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9167	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:56:00 - [5] - Quote The only vehicle to lose out on HP was the Saga. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdFZ2ZzEyNW1neVdqYUF4bXU5NUdUOXc#gid=0
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 595	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:57:00 - [6] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The only vehicle to lose out on HP was the Saga. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdFZ2ZzEyNW1neVdqYUF4bXU5NUdUOXc#gid=0 I REALLY urge you to log in and check the Gunnlogi's HP (3250 shields). That spreedsheet is completely WRONG, lol.
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1054	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:58:00 - [7] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The only vehicle to lose out on HP was the Saga. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdFZ2ZzEyNW1neVdqYUF4bXU5NUdUOXc#gid=0 Already tired 6 fits, and All of them has lower eHP than my old Maddy. Come again? LAV's can't even fit a ******* hardener.....
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1613	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:59:00 - [8] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The only vehicle to lose out on HP was the Saga. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdFZ2ZzEyNW1neVdqYUF4bXU5NUdUOXc#gid=0 now its all tanks
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9167	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:01:00 - [9] - Quote Well if the spreadsheet is so wrong why do you help update it?
Pandora Mars Afterlife Overseers 366	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:02:00 - [10] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The only vehicle to lose out on HP was the Saga. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdFZ2ZzEyNW1neVdqYUF4bXU5NUdUOXc#gid=0 Where those values are coming from? LOL, they are completely wrong! Both Gunny and Maddie have 3250 on their main attribute and 1250 as secondary. Armor tanks will get a slight buff to the basic HP (but an overall nerf), while shield tanks are being COMPLETELY nerfed! Yay! (sarcasm overload)

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6718	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:02:00 - [11] - Quote Glory to the flying coffins It's like, me and 5 other pilots that are happy about the changes, and everyone else is just like....the ****? (I honestly don't understand what's happening with tanks. They are...painfully easy to kill right now....so AV is going to need a dramatic nerf to compensate, unless something else is up their sleeve. It's all too early to really tell right now, unfortunately. Smh <3 Flying logi
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1057	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:05:00 - [12] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Glory to the flying coffins It's like, me and 5 other pilots that are happy about the changes, and everyone else is just like....the ****? (I honestly don't understand what's happening with tanks. They are...painfully easy to kill right now....so AV is going to need a dramatic nerf to compensate, unless something else is up their sleeve. It's all too early to really tell right now, unfortunately. Smh <3 Flying logi I like the Dropship changes, but those HAV and LAV changes.... wtf?
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 598	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:05:00 - [13] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Well if the spreadsheet is so wrong why do you help update it? Ok. I need to log in to help you, but so far I can tell you that the Gunnlogi has 3250 shields and 1250 armor now and the Madrugar is the exact opposite, as Pandora Mars says. I will log in, take all the stats down and help you if you want.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9167	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:06:00 - [14] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Well if the spreadsheet is so wrong why do you help update it? Ok. I need to log in to help you, but so far I can tell you that the Gunnlogi has 3250 shields and 1250 armor now and the Madrugar is the exact opposite, as Pandora Mars says. I will log in, take all the stats down and help you if you want. please do, also take into account possible skills, raw stats without skill are needed unless otherwise stated. Also EHP =/= HP round on the spreadsheet but if you want to make an EHP profile feel free.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9167	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:08:00 - [15] - Quote Pandora Mars wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The only vehicle to lose out on HP was the Saga. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdFZ2ZzEyNW1neVdqYUF4bXU5NUdUOXc#gid=0 Where those values are coming from? LOL, they are completely wrong! Both Gunny and Maddie have 3250 on their main attribute and 1250 as secondary. Armor tanks will get a slight buff to the basic HP (but an overall nerf), while shield tanks are being COMPLETELY nerfed! Yay! (sarcasm overload) Dust 514 info wikia website started by the SC guys I believe. I know the wikia website is ages wrong. My own database dumps are useless and sadly there is no easy access to dust 514 items outside the client to which I have little to no access to this week. New Numbers of course are pulled straight from the post.
The legend345 TeamPlayers EoN. 1099	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:15:00 - [16] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Pandora Mars wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The only vehicle to lose out on HP was the Saga. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdFZ2ZzEyNW1neVdqYUF4bXU5NUdUOXc#gid=0 Where those values are coming from? LOL, they are completely wrong! Both Gunny and Maddie have 3250 on their main attribute and 1250 as secondary. Armor tanks will get a slight buff to the basic HP (but an overall nerf), while shield tanks are being COMPLETELY nerfed! Yay! (sarcasm overload) Dust 514 info wikia website started by the SC guys I believe. I know the wikia website is ages wrong. My own database dumps are useless and sadly there is no easy access to dust 514 items outside the client to which I have little to no access to this week. New Numbers of course are pulled straight from the post. Module slots equals Effective HP. Less spots less Effective HP. This has been TheLegend345 walking you through commonsense
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 599	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:16:00 - [17] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Keri Starlight wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Well if the spreadsheet is so wrong why do you help update it? Ok. I need to log in to help you, but so far I can tell you that the Gunnlogi has 3250 shields and 1250 armor now and the Madrugar is the exact opposite, as Pandora Mars says. I will log in, take all the stats down and help you if you want. please do, also take into account possible skills, raw stats without skill are needed unless otherwise stated. Also EHP =/= HP round on the spreadsheet but if you want to make an EHP profile feel free. Ok, I will be able to log in in one hour and write all the stuff currently in the game (skills included). I will post them here, so check them out!
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 599	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:18:00 - [18] - Quote The legend345 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Pandora Mars wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The only vehicle to lose out on HP was the Saga. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdFZ2ZzEyNW1neVdqYUF4bXU5NUdUOXc#gid=0 Where those values are coming from? LOL, they are completely wrong! Both Gunny and Maddie have 3250 on their main attribute and 1250 as secondary. Armor tanks will get a slight buff to the basic HP (but an overall nerf), while shield tanks are being COMPLETELY nerfed! Yay! (sarcasm overload) Dust 514 info wikia website started by the SC guys I believe. I know the wikia website is ages wrong. My own database dumps are useless and sadly there is no easy access to dust 514 items outside the client to which I have little to no access to this week. New Numbers of course are pulled straight from the post. Module slots equals Effective HP. Less spots less Effective HP. This has been TheLegend345 walking you through commonsense Not only, but as I said Armor tanks at least will get a (ridicolously) slight HP buff to the empty hull, while shield tanks not. They are just getting nerfed. Gunny: 3250 -> 2650 shields
The legend345 TeamPlayers EoN. 1100	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:20:00 - [19] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: The legend345 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Pandora Mars wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The only vehicle to lose out on HP was the Saga. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdFZ2ZzEyNW1neVdqYUF4bXU5NUdUOXc#gid=0 Where those values are coming from? LOL, they are completely wrong! Both Gunny and Maddie have 3250 on their main attribute and 1250 as secondary. Armor tanks will get a slight buff to the basic HP (but an overall nerf), while shield tanks are being COMPLETELY nerfed! Yay! (sarcasm overload) Dust 514 info wikia website started by the SC guys I believe. I know the wikia website is ages wrong. My own database dumps are useless and sadly there is no easy access to dust 514 items outside the client to which I have little to no access to this week. New Numbers of course are pulled straight from the post. Module slots equals Effective HP. Less spots less Effective HP. This has been TheLegend345 walking you through commonsense Not only, but as I said Armor tanks at least will get a (ridicolously) slight HP buff to the empty hull, while shield tanks not. They are just getting nerfed. Gunny: 3250 -> 2650 shields Trust me the armor will be toilet as well
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 602	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:21:00 - [20] - Quote The legend345 wrote: Keri Starlight wrote: The legend345 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Dust 514 info wikia website started by the SC guys I believe. I know the wikia website is ages wrong. My own database dumps are useless and sadly there is no easy access to dust 514 items outside the client to which I have little to no access to this week. New Numbers of course are pulled straight from the post. Module slots equals Effective HP. Less spots less Effective HP. This has been TheLegend345 walking you through commonsense Not only, but as I said Armor tanks at least will get a (ridicolously) slight HP buff to the empty hull, while shield tanks not. They are just getting nerfed. Gunny: 3250 -> 2650 shields Trust me the armor will be toilet as well I'm not saying otherwise

BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Murder Cakes Of Doom 424	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:22:00 - [21] - Quote not saying this is a good thing but ur passive regen is also like insanely higher so yea 1 draw back for a great upgrade. :D armor tanks have it as well be we rely on armor not shields XD and we need to use a module to rep ourselves. :D
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 724	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:24:00 - [22] - Quote If shields were meant for burst combat than they have a funny way of making this happen.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1835	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:59:00 - [23] - Quote Xender17 wrote: If shields were meant for burst combat than they have a funny way of making this happen. i think CCP was high when they came up with this idea. lets make a hit and tanks thats even slower and less durable then past tanks because our data shows they were too slow and not durable enough before. that'll teach people to ask for buffs. the only thing they did for shields is an actual passive recharge that are good but they are hanging on that as the sole reason to nerf everything else. tone down the passive add hp and speed.
Harpyja Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 605	Posted - 2013.10.03 23:24:00 - [24] - Quote I'll be 100% happy if all AV damage gets nerfed down to 1/3 of their current damage.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 3604	Posted - 2013.10.03 23:34:00 - [25] - Quote ladwar wrote: Xender17 wrote: If shields were meant for burst combat than they have a funny way of making this happen. i think CCP was high when they came up with this idea. lets make a hit and tanks thats even slower and less durable then past tanks because our data shows they were too slow and not durable enough before. that'll teach people to ask for buffs. the only thing they did for shields is an actual passive recharge that are good but they are hanging on that as the sole reason to nerf everything else. tone down the passive add hp and speed. Yeah the cool downs are kinda crap on the boosters etc but they give a significant boost, a heavy booster adds just under 2000 shields in less than a second, and a light booster half of that, add on the added EHP a hardener would get off those numbers and you get some serious active tank.
jerrmy12 kahoalii Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 54	Posted - 2013.10.03 23:54:00 - [26] - Quote that cake is a lie.
The legend345 TeamPlayers EoN. 1115	Posted - 2013.10.04 01:27:00 - [27] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: that cake is a lie. Post of the day
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 605	Posted - 2013.10.04 01:40:00 - [28] - Quote The legend345 wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: that cake is a lie. Post of the day Of course I got the inspiration from Portal for the topic title
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 605	Posted - 2013.10.04 01:52:00 - [29] - Quote Stats for IWS: Part 1: Vehicles Section: LAV BALOCH Shields 416 Armor 1520 Shield recharge 4,5/s CPU 70 PG 265 High Slots 1 Low Slots 2 ONIKUMA Shields 1168 Armor 496 Shield recharge 12/s CPU 110 PG 160 High Slots 2 Low Slots 1 METHANA Shields 503 Armor 2138 Shield recharge 6/s CPU 105 PG 275 High Slots 2 Low Slots 3 SAGA Shields 1425 Armor 900 Shield recharge 16/s CPU 155 PG 170 High Slots 3 Low Slots 2
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 605	Posted - 2013.10.04 02:03:00 - [30] - Quote Stats for IWS: Part 1: Vehicles Section: HAV SICA Shields 2500 Armor 963 Shield recharge 22/s CPU 310 PG 1805 High Slots 3 Low Slots 2 SOMA Shields 863 Armor 2788 Shield recharge 8/s CPU 210 PG 2540 High Slots 2 Low Slots 4 GUNNLOGI Shields 3250 Armor 1250 Shield recharge 22/s CPU 330 PG 1805 High Slots 5 Low Slots 2 MADRUGAR Shields 1125 Armor 3625 Shield recharge 8/s CPU 210 PG 2690 High Slots 2 Low Slots 5



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