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I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:21:00 -
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Does anyone know what the Thale's Tar sniper is? It is not in the shop. How strong is it? Every time I die from it I die in one shot, even when I'm moving. I have never been shot twice by it in one life, so I was wondering if it is strong enough to one shot a basic militia suit, or is the sniper using it ALWAYS getting headshots on me from +400m even when I'm running around. I can understand maybe getting a couple of headshots on me even while I am moving, but not every single time from that distance. |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
373
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:23:00 -
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Not sure about the numbers but yes it will one shot a militia suit.
Officer weapon only found in salvage. Needs high SP investment to use. |
Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
119
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:25:00 -
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Its an officer sniper, can only be obtained from salvave. What im wondering is what the stats on the balacs sniper rifle are |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:25:00 -
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As the proud owner of quite a few (So far have only lost one ever due to a FG, putting it on a maxed EHP heavy was a very wise choice...), it is an Officer Weapon so salvage only.
25 total rounds, 5 to a clip Better zoom then even the proto Kaili Tac Sniper, which is saying something. 355.something base damage so it hits like a god damned truck. Needs Sniper at V and the next skill at III Stable enough that you can double-tap targets though not as well as the real tacticals.
Very rare, ridiculously overpowered. If you ever get shot by one, make it your life goal to kill the person using it as he will cry. |
Eyemakerwet
R 0 N 1 N
59
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:27:00 -
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I AM TacoBueno wrote:Does anyone know what the Thale's Tar sniper is? It is not in the shop. How strong is it? Every time I die from it I die in one shot, even when I'm moving. I have never been shot twice by it in one life, so I was wondering if it is strong enough to one shot a basic militia suit, or is the sniper using it ALWAYS getting headshots on me from +400m even when I'm running around. I can understand maybe getting a couple of headshots on me even while I am moving, but not every single time from that distance.
I cant remember the true numbers but if im correct, fully skilled up with 3 dmg mods can deal almost 1200 dmg to the head. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1124
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:27:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Its an officer sniper, can only be obtained from salvave. What im wondering is what the stats on the balacs sniper rifle are About 100 less damage than the Thale's. Has 7 shots in a clip though, but that doesn't make up for that much less damage. |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
281
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:31:00 -
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Thales TAR-07 - Damage: 355.3 - RoF: 50 RPM - Clip: 5 - Ammo: 25 - Reload: 4s
Requires: - Weaponry 3 - Light Weapon Ops 2 - Sniper Ops 5 - Sniper Prof 3
My Thales numbers: - 3 complex damage mods - Prof 5 = 492.58 damage pershot ~ 443.33 damage to body (90%) ~ 862.03 damage to head (175%) |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:32:00 -
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Ah, it all makes sense now. Yeah after getting killed by them I do try to seek them out, but I can't remember if I killed any of them. How is the rate of fire? Is it slower than the tactical snipers? |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
749
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:33:00 -
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Officer grade sniper aquired through salvage at the end of a match.
Does the damage of a charge sniper as base, but fires like a tactical rifle with a clip of 5, has superior zoom over the other snipers and is a pain in the ass, imagine the damage it would do if people wasn't firing it from the redline so their damage wasn't reduced by the range. |
Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
119
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:33:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Its an officer sniper, can only be obtained from salvave. What im wondering is what the stats on the balacs sniper rifle are About 100 less damage than the Thale's. Has 7 shots in a clip though, but that doesn't make up for that much less damage. I still does a crapton of damage |
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Eyemakerwet
R 0 N 1 N
59
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:33:00 -
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Keep in mind it deals 110% damage to shields. |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:33:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Thales TAR-07 - Damage: 355.3 - RoF: 50 RPM - Clip: 5 - Ammo: 25 - Reload: 4s
Requires: - Weaponry 3 - Light Weapon Ops 2 - Sniper Ops 5 - Sniper Prof 3
My Thales numbers: - 3 complex damage mods - Prof 5 = 492.58 damage pershot ~ 443.33 damage to body (90%) ~ 862.03 damage to head (175%)
GEEEEZ that is crazy, haha I know what I'm going for next (just got the charge sniper) |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1124
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:37:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Its an officer sniper, can only be obtained from salvave. What im wondering is what the stats on the balacs sniper rifle are About 100 less damage than the Thale's. Has 7 shots in a clip though, but that doesn't make up for that much less damage. I still does a crapton of damage It is an upgrade over the Ishukone due to Slightly more damage. Higher clipsize. Better zoom (same as the Thale's which is better than the zoom on the Tactical).
But compared to the Thale's it's not really that good (the Thale's is OP). |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
283
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:39:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:Its an officer sniper, can only be obtained from salvave. What im wondering is what the stats on the balacs sniper rifle are About 100 less damage than the Thale's. Has 7 shots in a clip though, but that doesn't make up for that much less damage. I still does a crapton of damage It is an upgrade over the Ishukone due to Slightly more damage. Higher clipsize. Better zoom (same as the Thale's which is better than the zoom on the Tactical). But compared to the Thale's it's not really that good (the Thale's is OP).
Plus its a tactical like the C15-A or Kaalakiota
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1202
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:41:00 -
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Damn, I have every officer weapon besides the balac, why i get no balac! |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
283
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:42:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Damn, I have every officer weapon besides the balac, why i get no balac!
Believe it was a tournament prize? c/d? |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1202
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:43:00 -
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Dang, I really can't wait for the player market to finally be implemented (Though it is likely a year or two away), as I'd like to collect one of everything. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1125
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:43:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Damn, I have every officer weapon besides the balac, why i get no balac! Because they don't drop in salvage.
It was a closed beta tournament prize along with Balac ARs and SMGs. Of these only the AR drops, so you don't have the SMG either. |
Eyemakerwet
R 0 N 1 N
59
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:48:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Thales TAR-07 - Damage: 355.3 - RoF: 50 RPM - Clip: 5 - Ammo: 25 - Reload: 4s
Requires: - Weaponry 3 - Light Weapon Ops 2 - Sniper Ops 5 - Sniper Prof 3
My Thales numbers: - 3 complex damage mods - Prof 5 = 492.58 damage pershot ~ 443.33 damage to body (90%) ~ 862.03 damage to head (175%)
dont sniper rifles deal 190% to the head? Maybe it was changed. But thats what it used to be
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3669
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:06:00 -
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Eyemakerwet wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:Thales TAR-07 - Damage: 355.3 - RoF: 50 RPM - Clip: 5 - Ammo: 25 - Reload: 4s
Requires: - Weaponry 3 - Light Weapon Ops 2 - Sniper Ops 5 - Sniper Prof 3
My Thales numbers: - 3 complex damage mods - Prof 5 = 492.58 damage pershot ~ 443.33 damage to body (90%) ~ 862.03 damage to head (175%) dont sniper rifles deal 190% to the head? Maybe it was changed. But thats what it used to be
He's calculating those numbers against shields, which take 10% less damage from railgun type shots. Quite a lot of the time you'll be shooting armoured targets though in which case it'll do a fair bit more damage and probably that 190% headshot multiplier. I know I've been OHKO'd with 900 armour by a Thales.
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:24:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Dang, I really can't wait for the player market to finally be implemented (Though it is likely a year or two away), as I'd like to collect one of everything.
I'd sell you one of mine if i could lol |
Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1910
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:28:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote: My Thales numbers: - 3 complex damage mods - Prof 5 = 492.58 damage pershot
Is wrong :(
x3 complex damage mods with Prof 5 (after stacking penalties) is 516.46 DMG per shot. |
8213
Grade No.2
323
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:28:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:Rogue Saint wrote: My Thales numbers: - 3 complex damage mods - Prof 5 = 492.58 damage pershot
Is wrong :( x3 complex damage mods with Prof 5 (after stacking penalties) is 516.46 DMG per shot.
Here's a question for you. What is the stacking penalty? |
fawkuima juggalo
Hollowed Kings
65
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:57:00 -
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I AM SO PROUD OF YOU GUYS FOR NOT TROLLING THIS DUDE.... *claps |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1522
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Posted - 2013.10.03 23:43:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:As the proud owner of quite a few (So far have only lost one ever due to a FG, putting it on a maxed EHP heavy was a very wise choice...), it is an Officer Weapon so salvage only.
25 total rounds, 5 to a clip Better zoom then even the proto Kaili Tac Sniper, which is saying something. 355.something base damage so it hits like a god damned truck. Needs Sniper at V and the next skill at III Stable enough that you can double-tap targets though not as well as the real tacticals.
Very rare, ridiculously overpowered. If you ever get shot by one, make it your life goal to kill the person using it as he will cry. recoils a ***** |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
287
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Posted - 2013.10.03 23:50:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:Rogue Saint wrote: My Thales numbers: - 3 complex damage mods - Prof 5 = 492.58 damage pershot
Is wrong :( x3 complex damage mods with Prof 5 (after stacking penalties) is 516.46 DMG per shot.
Hmm I'm wrong, but I think you are too :)
- 3x Complex damage = 26.4% damage - Prof 5 = 15% damage = 502.39 damage pershot ~ 452.15 body (90% shield) ~ 879.18 head (175% shield)
Or am I missing something?
8213 wrote: Here's a question for you. What is the stacking penalty?
With some modules, when you use more than one the subsequent modules are penalised.
Ref: Dust Penalties |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
485
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Posted - 2013.10.04 05:04:00 -
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I AM TacoBueno wrote:Does anyone know what the Thale's Tar sniper is? It is not in the shop. How strong is it? Every time I die from it I die in one shot, even when I'm moving. I have never been shot twice by it in one life, so I was wondering if it is strong enough to one shot a basic militia suit, or is the sniper using it ALWAYS getting headshots on me from +400m even when I'm running around. I can understand maybe getting a couple of headshots on me even while I am moving, but not every single time from that distance.
A sweet, sweet rare salvage item. Are these things still obtainable? My sniper char has three from before uprising. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1127
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Posted - 2013.10.04 06:20:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Hmm I'm wrong, but I think you are too :) - 3x Complex damage = 26.4% damage - Prof 5 = 15% damage = 502.39 damage pershot ~ 452.15 body (90% shield) ~ 879.18 head (175% shield) Or am I missing something? That's also wrong since the percentages are multiplied, not just added together.
So 355.3 * 1.15 * 1.264 = 516.46. |
deezy dabest
Warpoint Sharx
36
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Posted - 2013.10.04 08:08:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote: That's also wrong since the percentages are multiplied, not just added together.
So 355.3 * 1.15 * 1.264 = 516.46.
Or if you want the full calculation 355.3 * 1.15 (Prof) * 1.1 (DM 1) * 1.087 (DM 2) * 1.057 (DM 3) = 516.40.
This looks right to me and then you times that by 1.75 for a head shot (175%) which is much easier thanks to the increased zoom and you pretty much have a OHK of anyone and everyone aside from fully specd heavies. This is why I have heard many refer to it as the god mode sniper rifle.
And as far as if I ever cried when losing one, I have only lost one thanks to running it on proto logi fully stacked with shields and armor, yes I did have the urge to shed a tear for it. |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
575
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Posted - 2013.10.04 08:29:00 -
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*counts up Thale's in possession*
*53*
*...doesn't even snipe...*
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