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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1051
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:03:00 -
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Assuming that PROTO and adv. AV is getting removed temporarily, this actually makes sense. If not, we're ******. |
Eyemakerwet
R 0 N 1 N
59
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:09:00 -
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Probably not. If so, I want my sp back!!! |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
723
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:16:00 -
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Eyemakerwet wrote:Probably not. If so, I want my sp back!!! They refund SP when they remove things. But yeah... STD vs STD would be fair. |
DS 10
Will Ring For Booze
1025
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:18:00 -
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You do know nothing is happening to AV right? |
Eyemakerwet
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:23:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:You do know nothing is happening to AV right?
As an av'er, I think they need to. Its only fair. The std vehicles are getting nefed to pave the way for a tiered vehicle system. As much as I love blowing things up I do have a lot if respect for my tankers. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1052
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:43:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:You do know nothing is happening to AV right?
Not confirmed yet as far as I know. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6718
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:49:00 -
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Better learn how to kamakazi with a Gorgon cuz dropships gon' be mean as hell
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1054
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:50:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Better learn how to kamakazi with a Gorgon cuz dropships gon' be mean as hell
lol |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1570
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:04:00 -
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I suggest you look at the stats in this link ;
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=113407&find=unread
And i mean REALLY look at them ... you'll see that is not as bad as you think.
Monkey say monkey do with you guys, huh ? |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1355
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:05:00 -
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Considering that proto, and to a lesser extent ADV, AV is the only viable way to control vehicles like tanks and DS's, no.
lol, STD AV vs STD tanks If this was the case, tankers would get their wish and be invincible. No good tank and pilot are getting killed by STD AV unless half the team was bombarding them all at once.
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1057
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:07:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Considering that proto, and to a lesser extent ADV, AV is the only viable way to control vehicles like tanks and DS's, no. lol, STD AV vs STD tanks If this was the case, tankers would get their wish and be invincible. No good tank and pilot are getting killed by STD AV unless half the team was bombarding them all at once.
Have you seen the stats that we have now? Please for god's sake be ******* quiet..... |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6718
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:07:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Better learn how to kamakazi with a Gorgon cuz dropships gon' be mean as hell lol You have proto squads though, and plenty of AV to spare.
I don't care, I'll fly through hell every day of the week.
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1058
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:09:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Better learn how to kamakazi with a Gorgon cuz dropships gon' be mean as hell lol You have proto squads though, and plenty of AV to spare. I don't care, I'll fly through hell every day of the week.
We fly and drive through hell on a daily basis already. It'll probably get worse. You know what? **** it. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6718
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:12:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Better learn how to kamakazi with a Gorgon cuz dropships gon' be mean as hell lol You have proto squads though, and plenty of AV to spare. I don't care, I'll fly through hell every day of the week. We fly and drive through hell on a daily basis already. It'll probably get worse. You know what? **** it. Batten down the ******* hatches, ****'s about to hit the ******* fan
Eject?
**** you HAHAHAHAH CHAAAARGE!! |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1115
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:15:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Considering that proto, and to a lesser extent ADV, AV is the only viable way to control vehicles like tanks and DS's, no. lol, STD AV vs STD tanks If this was the case, tankers would get their wish and be invincible. No good tank and pilot are getting killed by STD AV unless half the team was bombarding them all at once.
Can I ask whats the point in std and adv av if everyone uses proto and as you claim std av is usless against havs . Tbh its not if you use somthing calld team work proto av was introdused to tackle proto vehicles and since we dont have proto vehicles its blatently op. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1058
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:17:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Considering that proto, and to a lesser extent ADV, AV is the only viable way to control vehicles like tanks and DS's, no. lol, STD AV vs STD tanks If this was the case, tankers would get their wish and be invincible. No good tank and pilot are getting killed by STD AV unless half the team was bombarding them all at once. Can I ask whats the point in std and adv av if everyone uses proto and as you claim std av is usless against havs . Tbh its not if you use somthing calld team work proto av was introdused to tackle proto vehicles and since we dont have proto vehicles its blatently op.
this, and again, shut the **** up. |
Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
1054
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:17:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:Eyemakerwet wrote:Probably not. If so, I want my sp back!!! They refund SP when they remove things. But yeah... STD vs STD is fair. FTFY.
As a part-time AVer and pilot, STD v. STD is quite fair.
However, with everyone and their mother rocking Proto swarms, it throws that balance to ****. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1058
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:18:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Better learn how to kamakazi with a Gorgon cuz dropships gon' be mean as hell lol You have proto squads though, and plenty of AV to spare. I don't care, I'll fly through hell every day of the week. We fly and drive through hell on a daily basis already. It'll probably get worse. You know what? **** it. Batten down the ******* hatches, ****'s about to hit the ******* fanEject? **** you HAHAHAHAH CHAAAARGE!!
'aims ik Forge at Dropship' Your day is about to turn to **** ************ tehehe..... |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
962
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:22:00 -
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So what do you gather from the changes CCP is working on? |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
962
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:23:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Considering that proto, and to a lesser extent ADV, AV is the only viable way to control vehicles like tanks and DS's, no. lol, STD AV vs STD tanks If this was the case, tankers would get their wish and be invincible. No good tank and pilot are getting killed by STD AV unless half the team was bombarding them all at once. You mean you won't need the PRO crutch to destroy STD vehicles? |
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1060
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:24:00 -
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I did, as well as did the math. My fit is even worse than now, by about 2k eHP. |
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
392
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:31:00 -
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yeah the stats are worse its a standard tank they are doing this rebalance/nerf so they can bring in adv/pro tanks to DUST to do this they had to bring down the std tanks to a std balance of hp/slots |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1570
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:32:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:I did, as well as did the math. My fit is even worse than now, by about 2k eHP.
What about Skills, Modules, and Turrets ... you looked at those too ?
Is not all about eHP you know ... other factors counts too. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1060
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:33:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:I did, as well as did the math. My fit is even worse than now, by about 2k eHP. What about Skills, Modules, and Turrets ... you looked at those too ? Is not all about eHP you know ... other factors counts too.
Yes, I accounted for everything. This is with max skills as well. Oh, and With the said fit, there's no small turrets, and one HI slot is not filled. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1570
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:39:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:I did, as well as did the math. My fit is even worse than now, by about 2k eHP. What about Skills, Modules, and Turrets ... you looked at those too ? Is not all about eHP you know ... other factors counts too. Yes, I accounted for everything. This is with max skills as well. Oh, and With the said fit, there's no small turrets, and one HI slot is not filled. Then the repairer got changed, so it rep through damage, overall, it's a pretty hard nerf.
Maybe you should look at other possible fit's ? They did balance the suits in a similar way... sometimes you have to compromise eHP for more fire power, or the other way around.
I just saying.. the only problem i seeing is the AV grenades, and hopefully CCP will remove those before the changes are implemented. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1060
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:42:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:I did, as well as did the math. My fit is even worse than now, by about 2k eHP. What about Skills, Modules, and Turrets ... you looked at those too ? Is not all about eHP you know ... other factors counts too. Yes, I accounted for everything. This is with max skills as well. Oh, and With the said fit, there's no small turrets, and one HI slot is not filled. Then the repairer got changed, so it rep through damage, overall, it's a pretty hard nerf. Maybe you should look at other possible fit's ? They did balance the suits in a similar way... sometimes you have to compromise eHP for more fire power, or the other way around. I just saying.. the only problem i seeing is the AV grenades, and hopefully CCP will remove those before the changes are implemented.
Dude, this is with a STD turret, missing two turrets, and a HI slot, all for tank, and it's STILL weaker. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1060
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:43:00 -
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I know for one thing: If PROTO AV still exists after, they better become far more expensive, or HAV's and LAV's get's a massive price drop. DS's can get a small one. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1571
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:50:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:I know for one thing: If PROTO AV still exists after, they better become far more expensive, or HAV's and LAV's get's a massive price drop. DS's can get a small one.
Maybe that is the plan.... we don't know yet. But i will assume that will be logical, making Vehicles easier to destroy, but also more affordable. That will make the game a lot more Dynamic and the Vehicles a lot more fun.
The Bigger Picture. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1060
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:53:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:I know for one thing: If PROTO AV still exists after, they better become far more expensive, or HAV's and LAV's get's a massive price drop. DS's can get a small one. Maybe that is the plan.... we don't know yet. But i will assume that will be logical, making Vehicles easier to destroy, but also more affordable. That will make the game a lot more Dynamic and the Vehicles a lot more fun. The Bigger Picture.
If a vehicle is easy to kill, then it's a easy loss. They can't cost as much as Dropships (resources), so it would make it even worse than now. Try again. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1571
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:56:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:I know for one thing: If PROTO AV still exists after, they better become far more expensive, or HAV's and LAV's get's a massive price drop. DS's can get a small one. Maybe that is the plan.... we don't know yet. But i will assume that will be logical, making Vehicles easier to destroy, but also more affordable. That will make the game a lot more Dynamic and the Vehicles a lot more fun. The Bigger Picture. If a vehicle is easy to kill, then it's a easy loss. They can't cost as much as Dropships (resources), so it would make it even worse than now. Try again.
I just given you the Bigger Picture and you refuse to look at it.... fine... keep looking at the floor then. I don't think CCP is going to change this, and is definitely what Dust 514 needs. |
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