Probably not. If so, I want my sp back!!!

You do know nothing is happening to AV right?

You do know nothing is happening to AV right?

Better learn how to kamakazi with a Gorgon cuz dropships gon' be mean as hell

Considering that proto, and to a lesser extent ADV, AV is the only viable way to control vehicles like tanks and DS's, no.

lol, STD AV vs STD tanks If this was the case, tankers would get their wish and be invincible. No good tank and pilot are getting killed by STD AV unless half the team was bombarding them all at once.

lol

You have proto squads though, and plenty of AV to spare.

I don't care, I'll fly through hell every day of the week.

We fly and drive through hell on a daily basis already. It'll probably get worse. You know what? **** it.

Considering that proto, and to a lesser extent ADV, AV is the only viable way to control vehicles like tanks and DS's, no.

lol, STD AV vs STD tanks If this was the case, tankers would get their wish and be invincible. No good tank and pilot are getting killed by STD AV unless half the team was bombarding them all at once.

Can I ask whats the point in std and adv av if everyone uses proto and as you claim std av is usless against havs . Tbh its not if you use somthing calld team work proto av was introdused to tackle proto vehicles and since we dont have proto vehicles its blatently op.

They refund SP when they remove things.
But yeah...
STD vs STD is fair.

Batten down the ******* hatches, ****'s about to hit the ******* fan

Eject?

**** you HAHAHAHAH CHAAAARGE!!

I suggest you look at the stats in this link ;

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=113407&find=unread

And i mean REALLY look at them ... you'll see that is not as bad as you think.

Monkey say monkey do with you guys, huh ?

Considering that proto, and to a lesser extent ADV, AV is the only viable way to control vehicles like tanks and DS's, no.

lol, STD AV vs STD tanks If this was the case, tankers would get their wish and be invincible. No good tank and pilot are getting killed by STD AV unless half the team was bombarding them all at once.

I suggest you look at the stats in this link ;

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=113407&find=unread

And i mean REALLY look at them ... you'll see that is not as bad as you think.

Monkey say monkey do with you guys, huh ?

I did, as well as did the math. My fit is even worse than now, by about 2k eHP.

What about Skills, Modules, and Turrets ... you looked at those too ?

Is not all about eHP you know ... other factors counts too.

Yes, I accounted for everything. This is with max skills as well. Oh, and With the said fit, there's no small turrets, and one HI slot is not filled. Then the repairer got changed, so it rep through damage, overall, it's a pretty hard nerf.

Maybe you should look at other possible fit's ? They did balance the suits in a similar way... sometimes you have to compromise eHP for more fire power, or the other way around.

I just saying.. the only problem i seeing is the AV grenades, and hopefully CCP will remove those before the changes are implemented.

I know for one thing: If PROTO AV still exists after, they better become far more expensive, or HAV's and LAV's get's a massive price drop. DS's can get a small one.

Maybe that is the plan.... we don't know yet. But i will assume that will be logical, making Vehicles easier to destroy, but also more affordable. That will make the game a lot more Dynamic and the Vehicles a lot more fun.

The Bigger Picture.

If a vehicle is easy to kill, then it's a easy loss. They can't cost as much as Dropships (resources), so it would make it even worse than now. Try again.

I just given you the Bigger Picture and you refuse to look at it.... fine... keep looking at the floor then. I don't think CCP is going to change this, and is definitely what Dust 514 needs.

I suggest you look at the stats in this link ;

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=113407&find=unread

And i mean REALLY look at them ... you'll see that is not as bad as you think.

Monkey say monkey do with you guys, huh ?

your right its 10x worse then everyone is picturing. thats why it got pushed twice. because they tested it and went wow... who every thought this up want to remove all vehicles because they are junk.

You guys are just stuck in that EvE type of thinking.. everything is Space Ships with you. A tank is not a meta level 5 indestructible titan class super destroyer, and this is not a Space Simulator.

FPS games work in a different way, and is about time CCP finally realize this. You call it a mistake, i call it evolution.

Considering that proto, and to a lesser extent ADV, AV is the only viable way to control vehicles like tanks and DS's, no.

lol, STD AV vs STD tanks If this was the case, tankers would get their wish and be invincible. No good tank and pilot are getting killed by STD AV unless half the team was bombarding them all at once.