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ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:

Bartimaeus of Achura wrote:

ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:

You think the shutdown is Obama's fault? It is pretty clear that a bunch of Tea Party fucktards are having fit like a bunch of 2 year olds. Why? Because of a law that was voted on and passed by voters, enacted by democratically elected officials, caused the re-election of said democratically elected officials, and was upheld by the Supreme Court. What they are doing is not only undemocratic it is at best destructive towards their party and more importantly America as a whole. Over what? Giving people health care? Absolutely absurd! Every other first world Nation in the world has Universal Healthcare. Republicans also forget that it was THEY that adopted the ACA from a Professor Mark Pauly as an alternative to Bill Clintons proposal back in the 90s. But, suddenly its bad because of Obama. Its obvious that they are doing this because they don't want to hand Obama a political victory. Which is somehow more important than your life. That segment of the GOP absolutely disgusts me on a personal level at this point in time.

Shut up. he is the one who "refuses to interact with the tea party" listen to rush Limbaugh or Andy Dean. they will either prove you wrong or prove you an idiot.

America doesn't negotiate with terrorists. Foreign OR Domestic ones.

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CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 390	Posted - 2013.10.03 20:22:00 - [1] - Quote 1st way... every1 troll them for ever.. 2nd way...(much easier) get rid of Obama..
Heimdallr69 TeamPlayers EoN. 935	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:28:00 - [2] - Quote Doesn't matter who the president is in our eyes the president will always be a dipshit
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 752	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:59:00 - [3] - Quote Fallout 3 is the answer
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 321	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:03:00 - [4] - Quote you sir/madam need to go back to high school gov. here. read this. learn it. the president is not making laws your local senator/congressman is! yes he's a dip, but he's also a largely powerless dip.
echo47 Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 86	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:48:00 - [5] - Quote This might work if he was a dictator. Its his last ast term I am sure everything will get better when a new pres comes in , rainbows and unicorns and jobs for everyone. Dems and repubicans (sic) will sudden ly and magiaclly get along for the betterment of the republic.
Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 589	Posted - 2013.10.04 16:06:00 - [6] - Quote Ultimate solution: remove all "central" sc governments and let people take responsibility for their lives in their own hands with respect to lives of other people ofc. Aka "the golden rule" - "Do to others as you would have them do to you"
ThePrinceOfNigeria Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 70	Posted - 2013.10.04 16:14:00 - [7] - Quote You think the shutdown is Obama's fault? It is pretty clear that a bunch of Tea Party fucktards are having fit like a bunch of 2 year olds. Why? Because of a law that was voted on and passed by voters, enacted by democratically elected officials, caused the re-election of said democratically elected officials, and was upheld by the Supreme Court. What they are doing is not only undemocratic it is at best destructive towards their party and more importantly America as a whole. Over what? Giving people health care? Absolutely absurd! Every other first world Nation in the world has Universal Healthcare. Republicans also forget that it was THEY that adopted the ACA from a Professor Mark Pauly as an alternative to Bill Clintons proposal back in the 90s. But, suddenly its bad because of Obama. Its obvious that they are doing this because they don't want to hand Obama a political victory. Which is somehow more important than your life. That segment of the GOP absolutely disgusts me on a personal level at this point in time.
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 327	Posted - 2013.10.04 17:05:00 - [8] - Quote Personally, I don't like any of them, Dems or Reps. They are all assholes so removed from the people they are representing that they don't give a s**** that their political squabbling is destroying this country bit by bit.
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 392	Posted - 2013.10.04 18:15:00 - [9] - Quote to many politicians in government.. they r all idiots up there.. Obama included.. it almost seems that the dumb guy always wins the elections. im pretty sure they r the ones who have no clue as to what to do to fix. im pretty sure if a smart person who actually knows whats going on. would do a much better job on fixing the country.. but it seems that we only have idiot corrupt politicians. a clueless president. and many other problems. with all this talking and all the sides its really really stupid as far as im concerned.. at this point im not sure who to blame and would say its easier to blame all of them for screwing up. as many problems we have been seeing with our government i still see no good reason to shut it down. i think the best solution is to do some massive replacing so we can get rid of the idiots and replace them with ppl that will actually try to fix everything. as of right now it just sounds like lies and corruption.. im annoyed by it and also sick of it. we need to add a new party to the government. it should be called the all other factions are stupid faction. and just fill it up with ppl who can run the country better than the ppl currently...
Meeko Fent DUST University Ivy League 1063	Posted - 2013.10.04 22:07:00 - [10] - Quote All the five year olds need to be put back into daycare. "But we don't like the ACA!" "But we do like it!" "We can't have it cause I don't want it!" "But we won't not have it!" Several months later... "It's your fault we shutdown the government, you didn't accept our spending plan!" "No it's your fault!" Anybody wonder why they couldn't have compromised on it instead of just turning their backs to one another until the governments shuts down so they can point more fingers?

DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2179	Posted - 2013.10.05 00:05:00 - [11] - Quote Democratic Communism, is the way, none of that oligarchy POS. Or at least full circle socialism at the grander scale. I still believe that things should be quick, simple and logical. Though, it's only a dream. Not in our lifetime...
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 266	Posted - 2013.10.09 01:13:00 - [12] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: you sir/madam need to go back to high school gov. here. read this. learn it. the president is not making laws your local senator/congressman is! yes he's a dip, but he's also a largely powerless dip. Yep 2 most powerful things the president has at his disposal are the military ( he is all powerful in that regard being the commander in chief ) and the power to veto. Here is the funny thing though his power to veto isnt absolute. So really the president can't even stop things from becoming law the the senate or congress get enough for a majority vote they can push right past the presidents veto. So really blaming the president for anything other than military action is barking up the wrong tree.
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 266	Posted - 2013.10.09 01:19:00 - [13] - Quote To me the real kick in the pants is that all the people that caused the government shutdown are not affected by said shut down at all. Nope only people affected by it are basically all the people that have to work for a living and likely live pay check to pay check. Extended government shutdowns could mean for some very hard times for these people not to mention if it is extended for a long time it might affect soldiers pay as well. Do you think for one moment the utility companies or banks are going to be forgiving that these people are suddenly unable to pay? I dont expect so.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. 288	Posted - 2013.10.09 03:45:00 - [14] - Quote ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote: You think the shutdown is Obama's fault? It is pretty clear that a bunch of Tea Party fucktards are having fit like a bunch of 2 year olds. Why? Because of a law that was voted on and passed by voters, enacted by democratically elected officials, caused the re-election of said democratically elected officials, and was upheld by the Supreme Court. What they are doing is not only undemocratic it is at best destructive towards their party and more importantly America as a whole. Over what? Giving people health care? Absolutely absurd! Every other first world Nation in the world has Universal Healthcare. Republicans also forget that it was THEY that adopted the ACA from a Professor Mark Pauly as an alternative to Bill Clintons proposal back in the 90s. But, suddenly its bad because of Obama. Its obvious that they are doing this because they don't want to hand Obama a political victory. Which is somehow more important than your life. That segment of the GOP absolutely disgusts me on a personal level at this point in time. You sure have a good understanding of the United States elective system and law making system for someone who lives in Nigeria.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3731	Posted - 2013.10.09 06:17:00 - [15] - Quote As a Brit with the NHS, I find it amusing that any political group would get so mad about this degree of healthcare.
ThePrinceOfNigeria Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 90	Posted - 2013.10.09 07:25:00 - [16] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote: You think the shutdown is Obama's fault? It is pretty clear that a bunch of Tea Party fucktards are having fit like a bunch of 2 year olds. Why? Because of a law that was voted on and passed by voters, enacted by democratically elected officials, caused the re-election of said democratically elected officials, and was upheld by the Supreme Court. What they are doing is not only undemocratic it is at best destructive towards their party and more importantly America as a whole. Over what? Giving people health care? Absolutely absurd! Every other first world Nation in the world has Universal Healthcare. Republicans also forget that it was THEY that adopted the ACA from a Professor Mark Pauly as an alternative to Bill Clintons proposal back in the 90s. But, suddenly its bad because of Obama. Its obvious that they are doing this because they don't want to hand Obama a political victory. Which is somehow more important than your life. That segment of the GOP absolutely disgusts me on a personal level at this point in time. You sure have a good understanding of the United States elective system and law making system for someone who lives in Nigeria. Can't say I am really from Nigeria. This character was made in the honor of the real Prince who made me millions of dollars when he contacted me via email a year ago.
ThePrinceOfNigeria Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 90	Posted - 2013.10.09 07:30:00 - [17] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: As a Brit with the NHS, I find it amusing that any political group would get so mad about this degree of healthcare. Its not really about the healthcare. Its about making Obama fail as a President so they gain political points during next election cycle. Problem is they are sacrificing the public's health for this. People would literally die because of them if they manage to get their way. Lack of preventative health care in the United States actually drives up costs of insurance too. Now the Republican's are playing games with America's finances. If they don't raise the debt ceiling America will default on its loans which will cause a huge ripple affect that will be felt in other nations as well considering the dollar is the cornerstone of the current financial institutions and the oil trade. This is basically them committing political suicide and taking as many of us with them as they can.
Derek Barnes 0uter.Heaven 422	Posted - 2013.10.09 20:58:00 - [18] - Quote For a little while they even shutdown the amber alert website during the government shutdown. But they at least opened that back up.
Bartimaeus of Achura Cassardis 55	Posted - 2013.10.09 21:06:00 - [19] - Quote ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote: You think the shutdown is Obama's fault? It is pretty clear that a bunch of Tea Party fucktards are having fit like a bunch of 2 year olds. Why? Because of a law that was voted on and passed by voters, enacted by democratically elected officials, caused the re-election of said democratically elected officials, and was upheld by the Supreme Court. What they are doing is not only undemocratic it is at best destructive towards their party and more importantly America as a whole. Over what? Giving people health care? Absolutely absurd! Every other first world Nation in the world has Universal Healthcare. Republicans also forget that it was THEY that adopted the ACA from a Professor Mark Pauly as an alternative to Bill Clintons proposal back in the 90s. But, suddenly its bad because of Obama. Its obvious that they are doing this because they don't want to hand Obama a political victory. Which is somehow more important than your life. That segment of the GOP absolutely disgusts me on a personal level at this point in time. Shut up. he is the one who "refuses to interact with the tea party" listen to rush Limbaugh or Andy Dean. they will either prove you wrong or prove you an idiot.
Bartimaeus of Achura Cassardis 55	Posted - 2013.10.09 21:19:00 - [20] - Quote ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: As a Brit with the NHS, I find it amusing that any political group would get so mad about this degree of healthcare. Its not really about the healthcare. Its about making Obama fail as a President so they gain political points during next election cycle. Problem is they are sacrificing the public's health for this. People would literally die because of them if they manage to get their way. Lack of preventative health care in the United States actually drives up costs of insurance too. Now the Republican's are playing games with America's finances. If they don't raise the debt ceiling America will default on its loans which will cause a huge ripple affect that will be felt in other nations as well considering the dollar is the cornerstone of the current financial institutions and the oil trade. This is basically them committing political suicide and taking as many of us with them as they can. No we cannot increase the dept ceiling or I will be in dept when our economy collapses under the weight. Just look at Obama care "tax" its monstrous not even Obama read it he is to busy vacationing in Hawaii instead of talking to the president of Syria (like that's a option any more). or maybe he can ignore calls from our Ambassadors in third world country's? but maybe it might help out solyndra?

Bartimaeus of Achura Cassardis 58	Posted - 2013.10.09 21:26:00 - [21] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: knight of 6 wrote: you sir/madam need to go back to high school gov. here. read this. learn it. the president is not making laws your local senator/congressman is! yes he's a dip, but he's also a largely powerless dip. Yep 2 most powerful things the president has at his disposal are the military ( he is all powerful in that regard being the commander in chief ) and the power to veto. Here is the funny thing though his power to veto isnt absolute. So really the president can't even stop things from becoming law the the senate or congress get enough for a majority vote they can push right past the presidents veto. So really blaming the president for anything other than military action is barking up the wrong tree. And we can http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/02/us/arizona-border-patrol-violence/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/02/us/arizona-border-patrol-violence/index.html Need I place more?
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1591	Posted - 2013.10.09 22:30:00 - [22] - Quote Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: Ultimate solution: remove all "central" sc governments and let people take responsibility for their lives in their own hands with respect to lives of other people ofc. Aka "the golden rule" - "Do to others as you would have them do to you" Ha, there's a fantasy land. Why do you think we have laws? Because people suck at being decent to one another. We had the wild west and we didn't like that either -- those with money want other folks to keep them safe from those that don't.
Bartimaeus of Achura Cassardis 58	Posted - 2013.10.09 23:51:00 - [23] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: Ultimate solution: remove all "central" sc governments and let people take responsibility for their lives in their own hands with respect to lives of other people ofc. Aka "the golden rule" - "Do to others as you would have them do to you" Ha, there's a fantasy land. Why do you think we have laws? Because people suck at being decent to one another. We had the wild west and we didn't like that either -- those with money want other folks to keep them safe from those that don't. the golden rule is brass shaped to a sword
ThePrinceOfNigeria Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 92	Posted - 2013.10.10 01:07:00 - [24] - Quote Bartimaeus of Achura wrote: ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote: You think the shutdown is Obama's fault? It is pretty clear that a bunch of Tea Party fucktards are having fit like a bunch of 2 year olds. Why? Because of a law that was voted on and passed by voters, enacted by democratically elected officials, caused the re-election of said democratically elected officials, and was upheld by the Supreme Court. What they are doing is not only undemocratic it is at best destructive towards their party and more importantly America as a whole. Over what? Giving people health care? Absolutely absurd! Every other first world Nation in the world has Universal Healthcare. Republicans also forget that it was THEY that adopted the ACA from a Professor Mark Pauly as an alternative to Bill Clintons proposal back in the 90s. But, suddenly its bad because of Obama. Its obvious that they are doing this because they don't want to hand Obama a political victory. Which is somehow more important than your life. That segment of the GOP absolutely disgusts me on a personal level at this point in time. Shut up. he is the one who "refuses to interact with the tea party" listen to rush Limbaugh or Andy Dean. they will either prove you wrong or prove you an idiot. America doesn't negotiate with terrorists. Foreign OR Domestic ones.
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2013.10.10 03:06:00 - [25] - Quote Make me a dictator and the problems will go away and no I would not be a mean one I would bring up my thoughts with the people but not havd a bunch of pricks that could over turn us cuz there thong is to high
Meeko Fent DUST University Ivy League 1102	Posted - 2013.10.10 03:12:00 - [26] - Quote ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote: Bartimaeus of Achura wrote: ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote: You think the shutdown is Obama's fault? It is pretty clear that a bunch of Tea Party fucktards are having fit like a bunch of 2 year olds. Why? Because of a law that was voted on and passed by voters, enacted by democratically elected officials, caused the re-election of said democratically elected officials, and was upheld by the Supreme Court. What they are doing is not only undemocratic it is at best destructive towards their party and more importantly America as a whole. Over what? Giving people health care? Absolutely absurd! Every other first world Nation in the world has Universal Healthcare. Republicans also forget that it was THEY that adopted the ACA from a Professor Mark Pauly as an alternative to Bill Clintons proposal back in the 90s. But, suddenly its bad because of Obama. Its obvious that they are doing this because they don't want to hand Obama a political victory. Which is somehow more important than your life. That segment of the GOP absolutely disgusts me on a personal level at this point in time. Shut up. he is the one who "refuses to interact with the tea party" listen to rush Limbaugh or Andy Dean. they will either prove you wrong or prove you an idiot. America doesn't negotiate with terrorists. Foreign OR Domestic ones. Who is a terrorist? The whole damn bunch are Children who are upset they didn't get their way. Republicans- Mad they have Obamacare Democrats-Mad Republicans Tried to defund Obamacare. Quote: Because of a law that was voted on and passed by voters, enacted by democratically elected officials This bit I have a disagreement with you about. Just because a law was passed does NOT mean it is enacted. Point in Case. Are we using Metric? No Was it voted upon and enacted by lawmakers? Yes. I... Am going to omit my opinion on the ACA, as it is unimportant. I feel that you are listening too much to Political Adverts. DID this need to happen? No. WHY did this happen? A bunch of babies wouldn't putdown either crusade. DOES it matter now? No. The damage has been done, and whomever fault it is doesn't matter.
Void Echo Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 1693	Posted - 2013.10.10 07:01:00 - [27] - Quote simple fix: Get rid of everyone in the government that has been elected in the past 4 years and those who have been on longer. Vote in people that actually stand for the people. Next time the government gets to big for its brain, rebel and take it down. 3 simple steps!
Void Echo Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 1693	Posted - 2013.10.10 07:03:00 - [28] - Quote ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote: Bartimaeus of Achura wrote: ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote: You think the shutdown is Obama's fault? It is pretty clear that a bunch of Tea Party fucktards are having fit like a bunch of 2 year olds. Why? Because of a law that was voted on and passed by voters, enacted by democratically elected officials, caused the re-election of said democratically elected officials, and was upheld by the Supreme Court. What they are doing is not only undemocratic it is at best destructive towards their party and more importantly America as a whole. Over what? Giving people health care? Absolutely absurd! Every other first world Nation in the world has Universal Healthcare. Republicans also forget that it was THEY that adopted the ACA from a Professor Mark Pauly as an alternative to Bill Clintons proposal back in the 90s. But, suddenly its bad because of Obama. Its obvious that they are doing this because they don't want to hand Obama a political victory. Which is somehow more important than your life. That segment of the GOP absolutely disgusts me on a personal level at this point in time. Shut up. he is the one who "refuses to interact with the tea party" listen to rush Limbaugh or Andy Dean. they will either prove you wrong or prove you an idiot. America doesn't negotiate with terrorists. Foreign OR Domestic ones. what are you talking about? Obama tried to negotiate with the Syrian dictator, the Taliban, the pakistanians and other terrorists. funny quote I laughed at because its true: if a republican doesn't like something, he ignores it. if a democrat doesn't like something, he tries to make it impossible for everyone else to use it.
ThePrinceOfNigeria Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 92	Posted - 2013.10.10 17:30:00 - [29] - Quote Hmm... yeah I can understand why Obama doesn't want to negotiate. And yes the TEA Party(Terrorists Extorting America) is the blame sorry. The Republican Timeline: March 2010: "We can't believe you just passed healthcare." April 2010: "We are going to overturn healthcare." Sept 2010: "We are going to repeal healthcare." Jan 2011: "We are going to destroy healthcare." Feb 2012: "We are going to elect a candidate who will immediately revoke healthcare." June 2012: "We will go to the Supreme Court, and they will overturn healthcare." Aug 2012: "The American people will never re-elect you, because they don't want healthcare." Oct 2012: "We can't wait to win the election and explode healthcare." Nov 2012: "We can't believe you just got re-elected and that we can't repeal healthcare." Feb 2013: "We're still going to vote to obliterate healthcare." June 2013: "We can't believe the Supreme Court just upheld healthcare." July 2013: "We're going to vote like 40 more times to erase healthcare." Sept 2013: "We are going to leverage a government shutdown into defunding, destroying, obliterating, overturning, repealing, dismantling, erasing and ripping apart healthcare." Oct 2013: "WHY AREN'T YOU NEGOTIATING."
Meeko Fent DUST University Ivy League 1110	Posted - 2013.10.10 18:37:00 - [30] - Quote Void Echo wrote: simple fix: Get rid of everyone in the government that has been elected in the past 4 years and those who have been on longer. Vote in people that actually stand for the people. Next time the government gets to big for its brain, rebel and take it down. 3 simple steps! My kinda fellow. Do it.



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