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Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.03 01:40:00 -
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uh 1 uh 2 uh 3 announces vehicle update uh 4 we wood like to announce that all vehicles are receiving a nerf uh 5 post-pones VU to 6 uh 6 post-pones VU to 7 uh 7 |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1059
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Posted - 2013.10.03 06:22:00 -
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i havent logged on in a couple days. considered it, today, but then read the stats on vehicle changes and it's just another tank nerf so i dont think we will ever get a buff. i might get on this weekend for a game or two but that's it. |
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
148
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Posted - 2013.10.03 06:54:00 -
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It takes a couple of push backs |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.10.03 06:56:00 -
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all of them? |
General John Ripper
TeamPlayers EoN.
2856
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Posted - 2013.10.03 08:10:00 -
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2 nerfs != a buff. 8 nerfs == a buff. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
312
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Posted - 2013.10.03 08:30:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:How many nerf does it take to buff vehicles?
Probably About as many licks as it takes to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ0epRjfGLw&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
497
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Posted - 2013.10.03 08:30:00 -
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Standard vehicles are OP ... they need to be nerfed so you can have the advanced and proto ones back.
There's a bigger picture ... open your eyes people. |
The Eristic
Dust 90210
29
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Posted - 2013.10.03 08:47:00 -
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One, two, three.
The world may never know. |
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.03 08:53:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:Standard vehicles are OP ... they need to be nerfed so you can have the advanced and proto ones back.
There's a bigger picture ... open your eyes people. this guy right here see's whats actually going on |
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
385
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Posted - 2013.10.03 08:59:00 -
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#1Posted: 2013.08.27 15:09 | Report | Edited by: Iron Wolf Saber Like 6 And before you argue otherwise check the chart below.
Madrugar Standard - 3 High 5 Lows Madrugar Advanced - 4 High 5 Lows Madrugar Prototype - 5 High 5 Lows
Gunnlogi Standard- 5 High 3 Lows Gunnlogi Advanced - 5 HIgh 4 Lows Gunnlogi Prototype - 5 High 5 Lows
Hypothetical Amarr HAV Standard - 4 High 4 Lows. Amarr HAV Advanced - 4 High 5 Lows Amarr HAV Prototype - 5 High 5 Lows
Minmatar HAV Standard - 4 High 4 Lows Minmatar HAV Advanced - 5 HIgh 4 Lows Minmatar HAV Prototype - 5 High 5 Lows
Max Rack Size in Dust is 5.
Now you're all smart people; tell me, why this up here is bad overall for the game?
Also explain the chicken of the enforcer/marauders fitting into this as both of those classes already had a +1 slot from regular HAVs. |
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Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
1607
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Posted - 2013.10.03 09:26:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:Standard vehicles are OP ... they need to be nerfed so you can have the advanced and proto ones back.
There's a bigger picture ... open your eyes people.
while I understand that part, AV needs to be nerfed as well so that there can actually be balance and not just any ******* ****** can solo the proto tanks. |
Purona
The Vanguardians
67
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Posted - 2013.10.03 09:38:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:Standard vehicles are OP ... they need to be nerfed so you can have the advanced and proto ones back.
There's a bigger picture ... open your eyes people. so the advanced tanks will just be more expensive versions of tanks we already say cant deal with the climate of AV |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
1960
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Posted - 2013.10.03 09:39:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:#1Posted: 2013.08.27 15:09 | Report | Edited by: Iron Wolf Saber Like 6 And before you argue otherwise check the chart below.
Madrugar Standard - 3 High 5 Lows Madrugar Advanced - 4 High 5 Lows Madrugar Prototype - 5 High 5 Lows
Gunnlogi Standard- 5 High 3 Lows Gunnlogi Advanced - 5 HIgh 4 Lows Gunnlogi Prototype - 5 High 5 Lows
Hypothetical Amarr HAV Standard - 4 High 4 Lows. Amarr HAV Advanced - 4 High 5 Lows Amarr HAV Prototype - 5 High 5 Lows
Minmatar HAV Standard - 4 High 4 Lows Minmatar HAV Advanced - 5 HIgh 4 Lows Minmatar HAV Prototype - 5 High 5 Lows
Max Rack Size in Dust is 5.
Now you're all smart people; tell me, why this up here is bad overall for the game?
Also explain the chicken of the enforcer/marauders fitting into this as both of those classes already had a +1 slot from regular HAVs.
well they could have perhaps increased rack size.
This ONLY works if the efficacy of modules has gone up by a pretty good percent. But fitting choices are diminished greatly :(
(Speaking DS perspective, and future air vehicles) I never bought a tank. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1350
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Posted - 2013.10.03 09:44:00 -
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What is see...
militia - 2/2 Basic - 3/2 Adv - 4/2 Pro - 5-2
This doesnt take into account racial variance... Mod changes aside i "guess" this works... too many slots would be OP, more makes sense for the specialist types (Enforcer, Marauder, Black Ops) |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1563
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Posted - 2013.10.03 09:48:00 -
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As many as needed. Vehicles are a tricky thing in "every" game, but is much, much worst in Dust 514. Tiers, Modules, Core Skills, racial variations... is just to many factors to take into account.
You guys just want your "God Mode" titan, or what ever the **** you use in EvE. But in a FPS, overpowered vehicles are game breaking. It needs to be a comprise between power and durability. |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
499
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Posted - 2013.10.03 09:48:00 -
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Purona wrote:Needless Sacermendor wrote:Standard vehicles are OP ... they need to be nerfed so you can have the advanced and proto ones back.
There's a bigger picture ... open your eyes people. so the advanced tanks will just be more expensive versions of tanks we already say cant deal with the climate of AV I didn't know prices for these new standard vehicles had been confirmed yet, never mind prices for the advanced versions.
Care to reveal your sources for such a statement !
Also it's been stated by CCP that AV will also need to be "looked at" during this vehicle overhaul.
Complain when you have the complete picture AND you've tried it, for now be grateful you've been given an update on the way they are heading with things. |
Purona
The Vanguardians
67
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Posted - 2013.10.03 09:54:00 -
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thats stupid if anything it will be
galente madrugar 2-3, 3-3, 3-4 caldari gunllogi 3-2, 4-2, 5-3 amarr 2-3, 2-4, 3-5 minmatar 2-2 3-3 4-4 lower base health higher hp than other tanks
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Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
1961
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Posted - 2013.10.03 09:56:00 -
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Is it a nerf?
one plausible situation is that (everyone knew DS needed big HP buff)
DS kept fitting slots. Tank lost a couple.
IF fitting modules are now 20% better --> DS are fine with current slots, tanks would be OP with previous slots. Then perhaps higher level tanks and dropships will gain more slots leaving the more 'interesting' fitting choices to exist beyond 'standard' vehicles.
It's plausible. Of course history has me concerned . |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
499
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Posted - 2013.10.03 09:57:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:What is see...
militia - 2/2 Basic - 3/2 Adv - 4/2 Pro - 5-2
This doesnt take into account racial variance... Mod changes aside i "guess" this works... too many slots would be OP, more makes sense for the specialist types (Enforcer, Marauder, Black Ops) It might even go to 3/3 at advanced and 4/3 or 3/4 at proto leaving room for specialisations to take a 5th ... or even 4/2 to 4/3 at proto with a breach proto having 5/3 and an assault proto having 4/4.
Either way there's still scope to make further racial variations and specialisations. |
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