DUST Search - 6 Month Road Map, Beyond

Isaac Ephraim wrote:

MassiveNine wrote:

Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:

CCP Logibro wrote:

I'll see what I can do. Might take a while to hash it out in proper details, and there's a lot of people to talk to, so don't expect it to be quick.

I think I can safely talk for a good portion of Dust players when I say who the **** are you kidding 'you're not quick'?

Your team hasn't cared to listen to the players or give them decent information for two years, why would now be any different?

It's not. They haven't given us a roadmap... ever. Remember six+ months ago when they told us they were going to be releasing one? I do, where it is yo? This is how CCP gets away with never having anything finished, and taking months to do a balance. It's obvious that unless it's a major flaw CCP has the philosophy "It can wait." Without a road map they don't have any standards or "goals" to adhere by, so when the finish date comes around and they realize all that drinking has caught up to them they can just be like eh. I've now dedicated this football defense song sung by cheerleaders to CCP:

PUSH EM BACK! PUSH EM BACK! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY BACK!!!!

Look at the top of this thread pls
You apparently cannot into reading comprehension

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Isaac Ephraim Occultum Scientia Black Flame. 19	Posted - 2013.10.03 01:13:00 - [1] - Quote CCP, could we get a post like this stickied on the front of the forums so people know where you guys are headed for the moment? This came up in the CPM Q&A today and I was wondering why I didn't see anything about the roadmap on the front page. In addition, do you guys have any idea for the next 6 months in terms of a roadmap? A general idea of what would be in store, in list forum like above post, could be very beneficial for all of us.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3999	Posted - 2013.10.03 01:17:00 - [2] - Quote Isaac Ephraim wrote: CCP, could we get a post like this stickied on the front of the forums so people know where you guys are headed for the moment? This came up in the CPM Q&A today and I was wondering why I didn't see anything about the roadmap on the front page. In addition, do you guys have any idea for the next 6 months in terms of a roadmap? A general idea of what would be in store, in list forum like above post, could be very beneficial for all of us. CCP doesn't know, hence, no road map will be done in stone. The way FoxFour explained it, it's like this. Each team is working on their project, and every update for the month = whatever each team has finished. So 1.5 will be some small updates + what Team True Grit finished (added corp roles) So if CCP has no idea what their teams will finish work on every month, then obviously planning a monthly road map is useless.
Isaac Ephraim Occultum Scientia Black Flame. 19	Posted - 2013.10.03 01:20:00 - [3] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Isaac Ephraim wrote: CCP, could we get a post like this stickied on the front of the forums so people know where you guys are headed for the moment? This came up in the CPM Q&A today and I was wondering why I didn't see anything about the roadmap on the front page. In addition, do you guys have any idea for the next 6 months in terms of a roadmap? A general idea of what would be in store, in list forum like above post, could be very beneficial for all of us. CCP doesn't know, hence, no road map will be done in stone. The way FoxFour explained it, it's like this. Each team is working on their project, and every update for the month = whatever each team has finished. So 1.5 will be some small updates + what Team TruGrit finished (added corp roles) So if CCP has no idea what their teams will finish work on every month, then obviously planning a monthly road map is useless. for the most part though, they have stuck to that roadmap over the monthly cycle iterations. Upgrading the New Player Experience so you have greater context, immersion, and are better prepared to survive in DUST. (In Progress) Improving controls for aiming (Mostly Done, Tweaking) Balancing Instant Battles so players are matched better (Mostly Done, Tweaking) Fixing bugs and exploits (In Progress) etc.
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1514	Posted - 2013.10.03 01:31:00 - [4] - Quote can you post the full actual link for some reason it doesn't work if u do post it like this post so I know
Isaac Ephraim Occultum Scientia Black Flame. 19	Posted - 2013.10.03 01:32:00 - [5] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: can you post the full actual link for some reason it doesn't work if u do post it like this post so I know From CCP Eterne on 6/28: "The dev blog we put out on Tuesday was our Uprising + the Future dev blog. If you want a more detailed look at our roadmap, here are the things we'll be working on over the coming months. Upgrading the New Player Experience so you have greater context, immersion, and are better prepared to survive in DUST. Improving controls for aiming Balancing Instant Battles so players are matched better Making sure all battles hit a consistent 30 FPS minimum for our current max battle sizes Improving vehicle movement Balancing vehicles so each has a role and is balanced both versus other vehicles and infantry Improving infantry movement Making getting into battles provide more context about what's going on, why you're fighting, etc. Improving Planetary Conquest and making it more meaningful and interesting to be involved with Improving Factional Warfare, making it more interesting, and rewarding players who are loyal to a faction somehow Fixing bugs and exploits Improving overall gear balancing so there is no "best" choice and there are tactical choices to make Improving situational awareness tools through the UI Improving the fitting experience through UI and better integration with the market There are also things that are not high level roadmap stuff that we'll be working on. Stuff like the addition of snow in Uprising 1.2 is a good example of this. For example, we have some other graphical improvements coming in 1.3, such as some changes to sites and scopes to improve visibility in certain environments, which are not "Roadmap" items but are still important fixes nonetheless. We don't have set-in-stone dates for when certain things are coming. It's also not really possible to share the nitty gritty details of each roadmap item at the moment, for a variety of reasons."
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1515	Posted - 2013.10.03 01:43:00 - [6] - Quote thanks issac o7
Isaac Ephraim Occultum Scientia Black Flame. 21	Posted - 2013.10.03 02:01:00 - [7] - Quote and as you can see, a lot of those bullet points have been covered since the monthly iteration cycle has started. Overall, CCP has stuck well to that goal. Maybe if they referred back to that roadmap more often, people would get an idea of where they're heading. Also, a new updated roadmap for the next several months would be nice as well.

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 2524	Posted - 2013.10.03 02:08:00 - [8] - Quote I'll see what I can do. Might take a while to hash it out in proper details, and there's a lot of people to talk to, so don't expect it to be quick. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics @CCP_Logibro

Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 1357	Posted - 2013.10.03 02:10:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: I'll see what I can do. Might take a while to hash it out in proper details, and there's a lot of people to talk to, so don't expect it to be quick. Kewl
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 603	Posted - 2013.10.03 02:12:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: I'll see what I can do. Might take a while to hash it out in proper details, and there's a lot of people to talk to, so don't expect it to be quick. Why would we expect CCP to be quick on something? Just sayin'

The legend345 TeamPlayers EoN. 1089	Posted - 2013.10.03 02:14:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: I'll see what I can do. Might take a while to hash it out in proper details, and there's a lot of people to talk to, so don't expect it to be quick. Nothing ever is with you guys.....
Vulpes Dolosus Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder. 84	Posted - 2013.10.03 02:15:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: I'll see what I can do. Might take a while to hash it out in proper details, and there's a lot of people to talk to, so don't expect it to be quick. Well, this is CCP...
SUNNY THE NINJA Immortal Retribution 47	Posted - 2013.10.03 02:19:00 - [13] - Quote BARDAS wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: I'll see what I can do. Might take a while to hash it out in proper details, and there's a lot of people to talk to, so don't expect it to be quick. Why would we expect CCP to be quick on something? Just sayin' compared to other game developers CCP is incredibly fast with their updates and content.
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1779	Posted - 2013.10.03 03:19:00 - [14] - Quote Isaac Ephraim wrote: CCP, could we get a post like this stickied on the front of the forums so people know where you guys are headed for the moment? This came up in the CPM Q&A today and I was wondering why I didn't see anything about the roadmap on the front page. In addition, do you guys have any idea for the next 6 months in terms of a roadmap? A general idea of what would be in store, in list forum like above post, could be very beneficial for all of us. rooooooad map
Isaac Ephraim Occultum Scientia Black Flame. 25	Posted - 2013.10.03 12:48:00 - [15] - Quote bumping to top
Loki Patera xCosmic Voidx The Superpowers 71	Posted - 2013.10.03 13:09:00 - [16] - Quote Yeah - another 6 months of priorities would be great - well done on sorting the last 6 months'. Make sure the Gallente Heavy is in there somewhere.... for the love of god.
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 1968	Posted - 2013.10.03 13:13:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: I'll see what I can do. Might take a while to hash it out in proper details, and there's a lot of people to talk to, so don't expect it to be quick. Just as long as getting the 6 month map does not happen sometime after April :P
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1171	Posted - 2013.10.03 13:52:00 - [18] - Quote You know, they have done fairly well with that old 6 month road map. Vehicle balance is being pushed back a bit, but is still expected to hit within that 6 month window.
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 266	Posted - 2013.10.03 14:07:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: I'll see what I can do. Might take a while to hash it out in proper details, and there's a lot of people to talk to, so don't expect it to be quick. I think I can safely talk for a good portion of Dust players when I say who the **** are you kidding 'you're not quick'? Your team hasn't cared to listen to the players or give them decent information for two years, why would now be any different?
MassiveNine Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 234	Posted - 2013.10.03 16:13:00 - [20] - Quote Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: I'll see what I can do. Might take a while to hash it out in proper details, and there's a lot of people to talk to, so don't expect it to be quick. I think I can safely talk for a good portion of Dust players when I say who the **** are you kidding 'you're not quick'? Your team hasn't cared to listen to the players or give them decent information for two years, why would now be any different? It's not. They haven't given us a roadmap... ever. Remember six+ months ago when they told us they were going to be releasing one? I do, where it is yo? This is how CCP gets away with never having anything finished, and taking months to do a balance. It's obvious that unless it's a major flaw CCP has the philosophy "It can wait." Without a road map they don't have any standards or "goals" to adhere by, so when the finish date comes around and they realize all that drinking has caught up to them they can just be like eh. I've now dedicated this football defense song sung by cheerleaders to CCP: PUSH EM BACK! PUSH EM BACK! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY BACK!!!!

Isaac Ephraim Occultum Scientia Black Flame. 28	Posted - 2013.10.03 17:53:00 - [21] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: I'll see what I can do. Might take a while to hash it out in proper details, and there's a lot of people to talk to, so don't expect it to be quick. I think I can safely talk for a good portion of Dust players when I say who the **** are you kidding 'you're not quick'? Your team hasn't cared to listen to the players or give them decent information for two years, why would now be any different? It's not. They haven't given us a roadmap... ever. Remember six+ months ago when they told us they were going to be releasing one? I do, where it is yo? This is how CCP gets away with never having anything finished, and taking months to do a balance. It's obvious that unless it's a major flaw CCP has the philosophy "It can wait." Without a road map they don't have any standards or "goals" to adhere by, so when the finish date comes around and they realize all that drinking has caught up to them they can just be like eh. I've now dedicated this football defense song sung by cheerleaders to CCP: PUSH EM BACK! PUSH EM BACK! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY BACK!!!! Look at the top of this thread pls You apparently cannot into reading comprehension
MassiveNine Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 234	Posted - 2013.10.03 19:22:00 - [22] - Quote Isaac Ephraim wrote: MassiveNine wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: I'll see what I can do. Might take a while to hash it out in proper details, and there's a lot of people to talk to, so don't expect it to be quick. I think I can safely talk for a good portion of Dust players when I say who the **** are you kidding 'you're not quick'? Your team hasn't cared to listen to the players or give them decent information for two years, why would now be any different? It's not. They haven't given us a roadmap... ever. Remember six+ months ago when they told us they were going to be releasing one? I do, where it is yo? This is how CCP gets away with never having anything finished, and taking months to do a balance. It's obvious that unless it's a major flaw CCP has the philosophy "It can wait." Without a road map they don't have any standards or "goals" to adhere by, so when the finish date comes around and they realize all that drinking has caught up to them they can just be like eh. I've now dedicated this football defense song sung by cheerleaders to CCP: PUSH EM BACK! PUSH EM BACK! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY BACK!!!! Look at the top of this thread pls You apparently cannot into reading comprehension Lol dude, you linked to a crappy dev blog from three months ago. Trust me when I say that is all you should ever expect is a list of things they would "like" to get done. Not a list of things that will be done. And expect them sporatically, maybe one every 2-3 months if we're lucky. Really there is no reason to ask or expect a roadmap considering the fact that those of us that have been here for 2+ years know that even if they ever did release a road map they would never stick to it. Hell half the things on that list you linked still isn't here.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9166	Posted - 2013.10.03 20:53:00 - [23] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: I'll see what I can do. Might take a while to hash it out in proper details, and there's a lot of people to talk to, so don't expect it to be quick. I think I can safely talk for a good portion of Dust players when I say who the **** are you kidding 'you're not quick'? Your team hasn't cared to listen to the players or give them decent information for two years, why would now be any different? It's not. They haven't given us a roadmap... ever. Remember six+ months ago when they told us they were going to be releasing one? I do, where it is yo? This is how CCP gets away with never having anything finished, and taking months to do a balance. It's obvious that unless it's a major flaw CCP has the philosophy "It can wait." Without a road map they don't have any standards or "goals" to adhere by, so when the finish date comes around and they realize all that drinking has caught up to them they can just be like eh. I've now dedicated this football defense song sung by cheerleaders to CCP: PUSH EM BACK! PUSH EM BACK! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY BACK!!!! There was one. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=988205#post988205 Lets see what they checked off so far Upgrading the New Player Experience so you have greater context, immersion, and are better prepared to survive in DUST. Improving controls for aiming First part Scheduled for 1.5, Some elements introduced in 1.4 and BA changes up to 1.5 Balancing Instant Battles so players are matched better Introduced in 1.4 Making sure all battles hit a consistent 30 FPS minimum for our current max battle sizes Touched up on 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.5 and will continued to be hit up on. Improving vehicle movement Supposivly inbound with the vehicle changes by Team Kong, originally scheduled for 1.5 but set back due to imbalance, incompletion, and technical difficulties. Balancing vehicles so each has a role and is balanced both versus other vehicles and infantry As as before Improving infantry movement Touched up on in 1.4, hotfixes to maps since 1.1 are constantly deployed to get rid of weird places on maps and odd behaviors. Making getting into battles provide more context about what's going on, why you're fighting, etc. Parts of this was delivered in 1.4, additional features still scheduled and inbound. Improving Planetary Conquest and making it more meaningful and interesting to be involved with On the Schedule for a future patch focus Improving Factional Warfare, making it more interesting, and rewarding players who are loyal to a faction somehow On the Schedule for a future patch focus Fixing bugs and exploits Done so far with every patch. Improving overall gear balancing so there is no "best" choice and there are tactical choices to make First of these changes are inbound as soon as possible. Improving situational awareness tools through the UI 1.4 added to this. More can be done on the remaining roadmap. Improving the fitting experience through UI and better integration with the market Probably the furthest out feature in terms of development.
Isaac Ephraim Occultum Scientia Black Flame. 29	Posted - 2013.10.04 01:38:00 - [24] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: Lol dude, you linked to a crappy dev blog from three months ago. Trust me when I say that is all you should ever expect is a list of things they would "like" to get done. Not a list of things that will be done. And expect them sporatically, maybe one every 2-3 months if we're lucky. Really there is no reason to ask or expect a roadmap considering the fact that those of us that have been here for 2+ years know that even if they ever did release a road map they would never stick to it. Hell half the things on that list you linked still isn't here. So, I end up linking the roadmap that was provided to us and you dismiss it as a crappy devblog. Coolstorybro. As per IWS post, he is right in that most of all the things listed on that roadmap have been completed since that roadmap's creation. I agree though that a newer roadmap is in order so we players have an idea of what to expect in the coming months. We're itching for content! (PVE anyone? )


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