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Alldin Kan TeamPlayers EoN. 638	Posted - 2013.10.02 21:30:00 - [1] - Quote Ever considered the fact that CCP is also going to be tweaking AV and that the stats shown are not final? Guess not.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6654	Posted - 2013.10.02 21:30:00 - [2] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Ever considered the fact that CCP is also going to be tweaking AV? Guess not. Dropships are so beast
Alldin Kan TeamPlayers EoN. 638	Posted - 2013.10.02 21:35:00 - [3] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Ever considered the fact that CCP is also going to be tweaking AV? Guess not. Dropships are so beast Assault is the only one requiring REAL work, AV just needs a nerf.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2016	Posted - 2013.10.02 21:36:00 - [4] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Ever considered the fact that CCP is also going to be tweaking AV and that the stats shown are not final? Guess not. Feedback is a major part of releasing the numbers. You are complaining because people are giving feedback?
broonfondle majikthies Bannana Boat Corp 281	Posted - 2013.10.02 21:36:00 - [5] - Quote Proto Afterburners
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6655	Posted - 2013.10.02 21:40:00 - [6] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Ever considered the fact that CCP is also going to be tweaking AV? Guess not. Dropships are so beast Assault is the only one requiring REAL work, AV just needs a nerf. Logistics ships need to be able to logi, provide reps and ammo to allied vehicles along with being mobile transport. Looking at the frames....Assault and Logi ships should be pretty beast if / when they come back. broonfondle majikthies wrote: Proto Afterburners Good catch, nice.
Alldin Kan TeamPlayers EoN. 639	Posted - 2013.10.02 21:42:00 - [7] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Ever considered the fact that CCP is also going to be tweaking AV and that the stats shown are not final? Guess not. Feedback is a major part of releasing the numbers. You are complaining because people are giving feedback? Most of their feedback is bad becuase, again, they aren't considering the future AV changes that CCP is making.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6655	Posted - 2013.10.02 21:44:00 - [8] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Ever considered the fact that CCP is also going to be tweaking AV and that the stats shown are not final? Guess not. Feedback is a major part of releasing the numbers. You are complaining because people are giving feedback? Most of their feedback is bad becuase, again, they aren't considering the future AV changes that CCP is making. To be fair, they can't. We can't magically assume to know how CCP wants to go about balancing AV against them. So, I think it's a damn good thing that 1.5 had integration issues if it meant that any of this didn't go through until you intelligent people can look through it and actually try to make any sense of it. But yea, without knowing CCPs plan for AV, it's still just a crap shoot. Oh, and did I mention that dropships look ******* beast?
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2016	Posted - 2013.10.02 21:45:00 - [9] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Ever considered the fact that CCP is also going to be tweaking AV and that the stats shown are not final? Guess not. Feedback is a major part of releasing the numbers. You are complaining because people are giving feedback? Most of their feedback is bad becuase, again, they aren't considering the future AV changes that CCP is making. I wouldn't say it is bad then, just uninformed.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 2092	Posted - 2013.10.02 21:50:00 - [10] - Quote I don't like how these changes is a step back in terms of diversity (ie no different turrets/vehicles) I think they need to fix some typos (Like blaster damage) Other than that I can't effiectively say these changes are for the worse. CCP warned you that base vehicle hulls would be weak. but you can not deny that the PG/CPU buffs are pretty rad although I see that Small blaster PG was bumped up into the 200's..... But it's like this every patch. Oh No! My Callogi can't run 3 Proto Hives now! Oh No! My Flaylock is being balanced! I say let the monkeys throw poo because their sight stops at 6 feet.

Alldin Kan TeamPlayers EoN. 639	Posted - 2013.10.02 21:53:00 - [11] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: I don't like how these changes is a step back in terms of diversity (ie no different turrets/vehicles) I think they need to fix some typos (Like blaster damage) Other than that I can't effiectively say these changes are for the worse. CCP warned you that base vehicle hulls would be weak. but you can not deny that the PG/CPU buffs are pretty rad although I see that Small blaster PG was bumped up into the 200's..... But it's like this every patch. Oh No! My Callogi can't run 3 Proto Hives now! Oh No! My Flaylock is being balanced! I say let the monkeys throw poo because their sight stops at 6 feet. This is so far my only real concern, it's unfortunate really.
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1036	Posted - 2013.10.02 21:56:00 - [12] - Quote With my new fit for this, I didn't even add in small turrets, and I'm still lacking the fittings to fit a scanner. A ******* scanner.....
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2571	Posted - 2013.10.02 22:02:00 - [13] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Ever considered the fact that CCP is also going to be tweaking AV and that the stats shown are not final? Guess not. I know you love your forge gun, but honestly, EVERYONE should be underwhelmed by these proposals.
Alldin Kan TeamPlayers EoN. 640	Posted - 2013.10.02 22:04:00 - [14] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Ever considered the fact that CCP is also going to be tweaking AV and that the stats shown are not final? Guess not. I know you love your forge gun, but honestly, EVERYONE should be underwhelmed by these proposals. Double Facepalm AV nerf... incoming... ok? nerf... incoming... Vehicles should be fine if balancing gets well done. WoT doesn't have health regen but you don't see anyone complaining.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1512	Posted - 2013.10.02 22:05:00 - [15] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Ever considered the fact that CCP is also going to be tweaking AV? Guess not. Dropships are so beast Shield tanks FTW >:3
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Murder Cakes Of Doom 413	Posted - 2013.10.02 22:06:00 - [16] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Ever considered the fact that CCP is also going to be tweaking AV and that the stats shown are not final? Guess not. I know you love your forge gun, but honestly, EVERYONE should be underwhelmed by these proposals. Double Facepalm AV nerf... incoming... ok? nerf... incoming... Vehicles should be fine if balancing gets well done. when has CCP honestly balanced anything correctly? ask ur self this. now how severely do u believe they will honestly nerf AV if they do at all.
Alldin Kan TeamPlayers EoN. 641	Posted - 2013.10.02 22:12:00 - [17] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Ever considered the fact that CCP is also going to be tweaking AV and that the stats shown are not final? Guess not. I know you love your forge gun, but honestly, EVERYONE should be underwhelmed by these proposals. Double Facepalm AV nerf... incoming... ok? nerf... incoming... Vehicles should be fine if balancing gets well done. when has CCP honestly balanced anything correctly? ask ur self this. now how severely do u believe they will honestly nerf AV if they do at all. I did say if, I don't expect amazing things but upon they mentioning that they will be tweaking AV, I simply couldn't rule out the possibility of it actually being successful. Also, I WANT TO BELIEVE.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2572	Posted - 2013.10.02 22:18:00 - [18] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Ever considered the fact that CCP is also going to be tweaking AV and that the stats shown are not final? Guess not. I know you love your forge gun, but honestly, EVERYONE should be underwhelmed by these proposals. Double Facepalm AV nerf... incoming... ok? nerf... incoming... Vehicles should be fine if balancing gets well done. WoT doesn't have health regen but you don't see anyone complaining. WoT has maps, penetration, ballistics, and all manners of mechanics focused on nothing but tank versus tank. Regen is not the issue at all here, in fact it looks like the passive armor regen is WAY too high. The issue the pieces do not fit together into an improvement on the gameplay, which is the whole point of this "rebalance".
Alldin Kan TeamPlayers EoN. 641	Posted - 2013.10.02 22:20:00 - [19] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Ever considered the fact that CCP is also going to be tweaking AV and that the stats shown are not final? Guess not. I know you love your forge gun, but honestly, EVERYONE should be underwhelmed by these proposals. Double Facepalm AV nerf... incoming... ok? nerf... incoming... Vehicles should be fine if balancing gets well done. WoT doesn't have health regen but you don't see anyone complaining. WoT has maps, penetration, ballistics, and all manners of mechanics focused on nothing but tank versus tank. Regen is not the issue at all here, in fact it looks like the passive armor regen is WAY too high. The issue the pieces do not fit together into an improvement on the gameplay, which is the whole point of this "rebalance". We need to stop replying in separate threads.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles 156	Posted - 2013.10.02 22:38:00 - [20] - Quote Im crying because there are no tree's and jet bikes! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qfsCleM8rE



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