Did you see all those passive skills there adding in for tanks though? Gonna be awesome

I thought they said vehicles as just a hull would be weak and it would need good fittings to be powerful. Are the modules better than then current ones?

passive shield regen remains, it's on a 4 second delay for the gunnlogi and the passive amount has increased.

Assholes with assault rifles will not be able to stop the shield regen.

Assholes firing tank turrets, swarms, plasma cannon and Forge guns WILL stop the regen for the time delay.

Gunnlogi EHP will go up-ish or you can pick hardeners for the funzies. This will make marauders and enforcers have a bigger niche when re-released.

What I want to know is if the inherent resists will remain or if they will be removed. If they're removed, then that throws my guesstimates about AV out the window and I have to start from scratch.

Ii swear to god I'm the only need here....y'all need to spend 14 hours on excel comparing tank fits, turrets, modules, etc. I factored in EVERYTHING and tanks will be like this:
90% of tankers will find them even weaker but the top 10%- the Honey Badgers, will be nearly unkillable.

Also, glass cannon gunlogis will be able to take on front line madrugars and win in a head on battle if the hardeners are off.

Missiles have an obscene DPS and will kill everything ever. Also take into account that the front line tanks (madrugars), may be almost invincible while their hardeners are on, they'll run out of ammo extremely quickly and since ammo slots are VL, they can't use them.

Gunlogis can also omni-tank very efficiently, now, and sorry to say it grunts, but 2 shield hardeners on a gunlogi will drop explosive damage to 5%, so good luck dealing with that ;) (40%+35%+30[20?]%)

Yes. Tanks have low HP, but the hardeners will make them tanky.

Stop talking bad about Wolfman until u do math.

Also remember that a madrugar with hardeners on will be able to tank 7 hits from a rail that just will around 2800 damage and this is just a standard tank. Add one slot on each side per level and proto tanks will be well worth it. (Maddy with 1 heavy rep, 2 heavy plates, and 2 hardeners, anyone? Yeah, then maybe a couple CPU upgrades or ammo cache in the low and a blaster turret- the ultimate infantry killer.
BECAUSE hardeners are key, a tank HAS to be a tanky grunt killer, or a squishy tank killer. It is not possible do both BC of CPU limit

Blasters will be nerfed, honestly, but their PG and CPU cost is extremely low compared to missiles and rails that itll allow gunlogis to run them efficiently and maddies will be able to stack lots of armor mods BC of it.

I spent literally 14 hours figuring this out BC I was initially pissed, but now I realize Wolfman is a genius- damage mods being VH is good BC CPU upgrades are VH and dmods take more CPU to fit than everything except heavy boosters which will be a game changer.

In the worst case, we're not getting these before 1.7, and they've been reiterating that they're showing these to us this early to get as much feedback on them as possible.

One way or another, this demonstrates a movement in the direction you, I, and really all of us have been pushing for since we all got into the Closed Beta as far as presenting changes to the community early so we can offer feedback and suggestions.

I still think you could benefit from being a bit less adversarial, but this thread is emblematic of what we should all be doing as far as providing our feedback on proposals like this.

These are simply standard tanks. Look at the way they're being set up - just like drop suits. I seriously doubt Wolfman would go out of his way to make tiered modules and turrets the same as infantry and leave the hulls with a 3/2 layout.