I don't know what is so hard for people to understand about this.

Are they just in denial?

Are they purposefully trying to deceive people into thinking there is no advantage when, to anyone with a discerning eye, the advantage is as obvious as the difference between 12 noon and 12 midnight?

You can easily say when someone's using a kb/m or a ds3 just let's be honest. In Dust, no matter what, you can't strafe as fast as a keyboard.

And well, if you're doing the same score using a ds3 you're just bad at using kb/m in fps. I know people (no names ;) ) who never played any kind of fps both on PC or PS3 and they actually do great on Dust just because they're using kb/m ( majority of Eve community )

How anyone can say they cannot tell the difference between seeing the way ds3 and kb/m uses move is beyond me.

Coming from a PC background up until 5 or so years ago, even I who is fast approaching 40 can see it.

Whoever compared analogue controllers with digital keyboards basically proved it. Most kb are digital so when you strafe you arr getting instant acceleration to full movement by tapping two keys.

This topic is very simple for anyone who has any idea how the two input methods work.

KB/M left-right strafing:

1. Press A - instantly 100% speed strafe left
2. Press D - instantly 100% speed strafe right
Commentary: It is impossible to make the keys do less than 100% instant movement speed. They are digital - you move 100% or don't move. So you can - in fact, it is hard not to - achieve instant change from 100% left to 100% right by alternating A and D.

DS3 left-right strafing:

1. Push left on DS3 stick - instantly there is something like 5% movement left.
2. Then it is 10%, then 20%, then 30%, as you move the stick further left.
3. You only reach 100% movement left speed with the stick at (I believe) 95% to the left.
4. Push right on DS3 stick - you first go through 90%, 80%, 70% LEFT (i.e. the opposite of what you want...) as you move the stick from it's 95% left position.
5. Eventually you reach the central (neutral) position, then 5%, 10%, etc movement right.
6. You only reach 100% movement right speed with the stick at (I believe) 95% to the right.
Commentary: It is impossible to make the DS3 do more than 5% (approx) instant movement speed. It is analogue - you cannot help but 5%, then 10%, etc as the stick slides across. So you cannot achieve instant change from 100% left to 100% right by alternating A and D; the biggest instant change you can achieve from 100% left is to go to something like 90% left

Deadzone vs No Deadzone? You really think that's the same?
KB/M instant left to right.
Ds3 have to pass through the deadzone to switch direction- slows strafing.

Coming from a guy who is so great at video games, he can't tell the difference of a kb/m and ds3 strafe.. is that why you never post how great you are on your main? All day now I have seen you spew nonsense at jaraiya. No one uses kb/m anymore? Tell that to the 10-20 people in my corp still using kb/m. I love the complaining about trolls part, because you are the only troll I see here

I just spent a few minutes testing strafe speeds, and direction change speed on DS3 and KB/M with Light, Medium and Heavy suits.

There is no perceptible difference to me.

What are you guys on about?