DUST Search - If new content is on hold till core-mechanics are refined then...

Stevez Lau wrote:

Nguruthos IX wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Question, how long do you guys usually go without new content for other games?

Other games release every one to two years with major content additions as well as minor ones (well, substantial compared to Dust) every three or so months inbetween.

Also to be fair, games like Battlefield for example don't decide to release without the Russian racial variants of tanks or helicopters Cool

Even Planetside 2 which is an abominably bad game had pretty much all of its content there on release.

It's worse for a game like Dust.
Where you have to permanently spec into areas, some of which you may have to hold off on for >2 years?

Or spec into the closest thing to eventually have a wasted 7 million when the race you Really wanted comes out.

This is my huge issue right now. I want the amarr heavy laser to come out but I have no idea when that will be or even if they will do it since they don't give any information. I'll just stuck with my assult scrambler build for now I guess.


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Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2433	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:10:00 - [1] - Quote Perhaps in 6 more months. I have a feeling CCP is arbitrarily holding off new content because content brings people in but they want to wait until they first get Dust to a point that it can actually hold people in as well. CCP says they aren't arbitrarily holding it off, but then I'd like an explanation for why it takes over 5 months to create 2 heavies and 3 lights which should have been a priority ever since Uprising hit. People can put up with a less-than-perfect "core" so long as they have plenty of variety.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2434	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:22:00 - [2] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Perhaps in 6 more months. I have a feeling CCP is arbitrarily holding off new content because content brings people in but they want to wait until they first get Dust to a point that it can actually hold people in as well. CCP says they aren't arbitrarily holding it off, but then I'd like an explanation for why it takes over 5 months to create 2 heavies and 3 lights which should have been a priority ever since Uprising hit. People can put up with a less-than-perfect "core" so long as they have plenty of variety. I guess it wouldn't be arbitrarily holding off then but that's what I'm getting at. At what point is core "good enough". Or what basic features do they want in the game BEFORE they bring in new suits and vehicles? Obviously everything so far was on that list, and the things coming up like Factional Warfare changes, squad finder, vehicle re-work, Well it is arbitrary in the sense that it could be in now and they're waiting longer than they need to. meri jin wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Perhaps in 6 more months. I have a feeling CCP is arbitrarily holding off new content because content brings people in but they want to wait until they first get Dust to a point that it can actually hold people in as well. CCP says they aren't arbitrarily holding it off, but then I'd like an explanation for why it takes over 5 months to create 2 heavies and 3 lights which should have been a priority ever since Uprising hit. People can put up with a less-than-perfect "core" so long as they have plenty of variety. That is possible. But I think they are just incapable. Not all of them, some seems to work, like the guy who is manipulating the "most buy" stuff on in marked board, or the one who is adding extraordinary expansive booster stuff to the marked. You mean to tell me that advanced small rail turrets are not one of the most purchased items?
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2438	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:55:00 - [3] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Question, how long do you guys usually go without new content for other games? Other games release every one to two years with major content additions as well as minor ones (well, substantial compared to Dust) every three or so months inbetween. Also to be fair, games like Battlefield for example don't decide to release without the Russian racial variants of tanks or helicopters
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2442	Posted - 2013.10.02 07:03:00 - [4] - Quote meri jin wrote: we all would be a lot less pissed it the game was done. Like PVE done, EVE connection done, standard assets done. I can't agree any more! If we had a PVE option to play, a real and meaningful way to interact with EVE, and FFS just two more lights, 3 more heavies, and 6 more vehicles variants then I wouldn't mind if we had to wait 12 months between updates. The problem with Dust is it doesn't even feel like it's been released, rather it feels like we are still waiting for CCP to finish the most basic and trivial aspects which are taking an absurdly long time. I mean, when did closed beta start? Getting on close to two years now? How have they not at the very least given a racial variant of each of the core frame sizes?
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2475	Posted - 2013.10.02 09:21:00 - [5] - Quote meri jin wrote: Look at this: http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/02/dust-514s-uprising-1-5-update-how-objectives-will-help-new-players-stick-around/ Quote: WeGÇÖll be interviewing CCP Games about these new DUST 514 changes soon. Stay tuned for our article on the site. You think we will hear something new even for us as community? Some reveals, big or not? Every interview with CCP on some gaming site tends to be a bunch of stuff that everyone on the forums already knew and rarely touches on questions long time players really want to know.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2478	Posted - 2013.10.02 09:30:00 - [6] - Quote Stevez Lau wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Question, how long do you guys usually go without new content for other games? Other games release every one to two years with major content additions as well as minor ones (well, substantial compared to Dust) every three or so months inbetween. Also to be fair, games like Battlefield for example don't decide to release without the Russian racial variants of tanks or helicopters Even Planetside 2 which is an abominably bad game had pretty much all of its content there on release. It's worse for a game like Dust. Where you have to permanently spec into areas, some of which you may have to hold off on for >2 years? Or spec into the closest thing to eventually have a wasted 7 million when the race you Really wanted comes out. This is my huge issue right now. I want the amarr heavy laser to come out but I have no idea when that will be or even if they will do it since they don't give any information. I'll just stuck with my assult scrambler build for now I guess. CCP Wolfman did confirm they are working on a heavy scrambler weapon (so, Amarr pulse-laser). I wouldn't expect it anytime remotely soon though.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2487	Posted - 2013.10.02 10:28:00 - [7] - Quote Destiny looks cool, but it's actually not all that unique. Sure many people bring up the Borderlands comparisons, but even more similar is the 2013 game DEFIANCE which is pretty much the exact same concept with the community building thing and live events. Also I believe many are going to be disappointed with Destiny because of some bad wording by Activision. They said they have a 10 year plan for Destiny, but that is actually referring to the franchise, not the boxed product game you will buy in stores. From the sounds of it, Destiny will be one of those games you buy at the store, get some DLC for, then a year or two later buy the sequel and transfer save files.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2489	Posted - 2013.10.02 10:29:00 - [8] - Quote Aaroniero d'Lioncourt wrote: They are releasing new content when SP resets during downtime. Let me use my psychic visions.... Pushed back. Link?