I want caps for vehicles and dropsuits.

Active modules for dropsuits.

Yes

A

I use all vehicles.

I want capacitors mainly to hinder vehicles using the weapon meant for another races vehicles. Particularly with tanks this would make it so that a Caldari tank with a rail turret would matter. A Gallente tank with a blaster would be able to fire longer before overheating. An Amarr tank would field a laser more efficiently and a Minmatar could get more close up bang with a projectile turret.

Also, this would make a big difference in the use of active vs. passive modules relative to the power of the turret. Just like in EVE you would have to choose between active defense vs. firing a proto turret. When you are on the offense you are weakened on defense and vice versa.

This would decide whether a tanker lives or dies. Make the tank powerful so long as you can manage the cap. If it burns out you dead baby!

I'd rather not have yet even another way to hinder vehicles even more, unless it's not that bad. Plus, how would you fit repairers and boosters into it? those are the things (other than nitro and afterburners) that take up the most cap, so what would it be? turrets? you want turrets to have ammo, overheat, and then cap? No, that's stupid.

I'd rather not have yet even another way to hinder vehicles even more, unless it's not that bad. Plus, how would you fit repairers and boosters into it? those are the things (other than nitro and afterburners) that take up the most cap, so what would it be? turrets? you want turrets to have ammo, overheat, and then cap? No, that's stupid.

Would someone please explain capacitors to me?

Thanks,

Would someone please explain capacitors to me?

Thanks,

Wow, this is a really great point.
So in some ways, it helps the balancing by making it easier, even if building the system is more complicated

Capacitors work like stamina. Think of it like a battery that is constantly recharging itself. Some modules are passive and don't draw down the power, and other modules use power when they're switched on. So if I run the scanner constantly it will drain the battery down to like 80% where the drain and recharge reach an equilibrium. Some modules may completely drain the battery when running non-stop (a powerful armor repper for example), so you have to use it in bursts (like your sprint button and stamina regen). When your cap is empty all active modules are switched off until the cap recharges back enough to turn them on again (just like you can't sprint until some of your stamina recharges back). This allows drivers/pilots to manage which modules they want to run, when they want to run them, instead of having to wait out really long cooldowns.

Scanners, uplinks, prop mods, remote reps, active hardeners, webs, ewar... there are a ton of things that can be added that use cap. It would help set this game on a level way above the competition, and probably draw in a fair number of EVE pilots too.

Scanners, uplinks, prop mods, remote reps, active hardeners, webs, ewar... there are a ton of things that can be added that use cap. It would help set this game on a level way above the competition, and probably draw in a fair number of EVE pilots too.

Yes. Imagine ewar in this game. Jammers, webbers, scrams, Freakin' Nosferatus!. Why does a tank need to be shot and killed to be valid game balance? In EVE you can jam the opponent out of scanning and firing, drain his cap, scram him to a halt!

Whoa, Dude.

You just like, solved the AV / vehicle / weapon balance and things being OP!

If there were other ways to kill things than nuking them down with high direct damage then...gasp
This game would have depth and less weapon damage inflation ruining everything!

So depending on what you are doing you may either be recharging toward full cap, keeping it stable (or charging/draining so slowly the difference is not noticeable), OR draining your cap at some rate.



Do passives in eve affect cap at all? And aren't there ways to get more or less cap on your ship with some other trade offs. Like using a certain race might have higher recharge rate but lower overall cap, whereas another race might have tons of cap and little recharge?

So depending on what you are doing you may either be recharging toward full cap, keeping it stable (or charging/draining so slowly the difference is not noticeable), OR draining your cap at some rate.



Do passives in eve affect cap at all? And aren't there ways to get more or less cap on your ship with some other trade offs. Like using a certain race might have higher recharge rate but lower overall cap, whereas another race might have tons of cap and little recharge?

I'd like to see vampires, and neuts as EWAR, but they should instead lower the time active time lasts. cap is good for EVE, because it's long time engagements. But it would be horrible for Dust because it's mid-short time.

But they aren't things that would need to use up a lot of cap. A scanner doesn't use much power. a hardener doesn't use that much power. None of those things use that much power (other than the remote repps). So you just want to make them suck up power just cause? That makes no sense.

Also, vehicles don't use those silly things called drop uplinks.

A legitimate concern

But how long is the average tank / dropship doing things in a game?

You may be right but
we know vehicles will be getting more HP, sans LAV.
Couple days ago IRC some DEV mentioned considering a good buff to heavy suits.

If time-to-kill goes up just a little more in this game, which might not be a bad thing. Then caps might be able to fit that window.

B.

the capacitor opens a lot of doors for unique items and weapons

however, is the audience ready for them? I'd say no. you have to remember the new and unfamiliar to eve player base. the capacitor is a very cool and complicated idea but it would need to have a reason to exist beyond pilots. we currently have no active dropsuit modules so adding a capacitor(cap) to them would be pointless.adding a cap to vehicles would be cool and all but it's also one more thing to manage.

combat takes longer in EvE and you aren't burdened by things like aiming or not hitting rock and falling off cliffs. this frees up time to manage your cap and manually fly. in dust you are afforded no such luxury and I wonder how effective it would really be to try and manage a cap for a 20 second kill.