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KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1464	Posted - 2013.10.01 23:57:00 - [1] - Quote See Lea Silencio ? I dont care if you get irritated.....
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1653	Posted - 2013.10.01 23:59:00 - [2] - Quote I b4 NO NO
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6606	Posted - 2013.10.02 00:06:00 - [3] - Quote DOWN WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT!! We will overcome this oppression of ignorance and bigotry, and we will unite us ALL under the banner of freedom of choice! Stand up and fight for your right to REEEESPEEEC!
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1030	Posted - 2013.10.02 00:09:00 - [4] - Quote Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1471	Posted - 2013.10.02 00:23:00 - [5] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. I can live with that. I dont need unlimited SP.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 408	Posted - 2013.10.02 00:25:00 - [6] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. I agree with OP, but THIS is taking it too far. If they gave a respec but also stopped the gain of SP, they would lose alot of players.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1471	Posted - 2013.10.02 00:26:00 - [7] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. I agree with OP, but THIS is taking it too far. If they gave a respec but also stopped the gain of SP, they would lose alot of players. Not really. at a 20 mill cap Many players could play forever having unlimited respecs. You reach 20 mil SP and play as assualt,next month i'll be heavy. Fun forever. Why play? for ISK.
hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream 304	Posted - 2013.10.02 00:26:00 - [8] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. I can live with that. I dont need unlimited SP. Don't take that kind of talk! It's oppression!!!
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 408	Posted - 2013.10.02 00:28:00 - [9] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. I agree with OP, but THIS is taking it too far. If they gave a respec but also stopped the gain of SP, they would lose alot of players. Not really. at a 20 mill cap Many players could play forever having unlimited respecs. You reach 20 mil SP and play as assualt,next month i'll be heavy. Fun forever. Why play? for ISK. But I'm only at 10 mil! D:
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 1894	Posted - 2013.10.02 00:30:00 - [10] - Quote I want a respec and I wouldnt even use it unless they came out with other dropship races. My sp is all where I want it for now, given the skill choices I had. Id like a respec for racials since those decisions werr based on either not playing eve or flying the wrong dropship. But for other players I wish they could get a respec. Dust is still basically in beta and with the amount and frequency of changes new and oldnplayers deserve to not be penalized by ccps randonly changing the basis upon which decisions were made. "Choices matter" is bs if your premises are swapped after the fact, you cannot deny it. Regular respecs with new content and major balance changes till things are more stable and a big on at the end.

KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1472	Posted - 2013.10.02 00:37:00 - [11] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: But I'm only at 10 mil! D: Then you would, in theory,still have 10 mil more to ''cap'' XD
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6612	Posted - 2013.10.02 00:41:00 - [12] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Not really. at a 20 mill cap Many players could play forever having unlimited respecs. You reach 20 mil SP and play as assault, next month I'll be heavy. Fun forever. Why play? for ISK. And that is the base of the issue. We have these players who's heads are in the clouds, dreaming of a day where DUST will be a big and glorious game that resonates within the EVE universe, and they are firmly against admitting that it simply is not so, nor will it be so anywhere in the near future. They believe that DUST is filled with opportunity and diversity, blindly ignoring that all roles can be covered quite well with a fairly small amount of SP if you just focus a bit. They think this is EVE where there is a massive wealth of skills and things to do, and they RP in their heads when they play, to make the game feel larger than it actually is. They think that people being able to spend their SP on new interesting things without re doing the SP grind, over and over, will somehow magically grant that player additional SP, as if his changing roles would ever impact you as a player. I'm sorry that you might actually have to use spies if you'd like to know what the opponent is going to field, but instead you'd rather just get used to what everyone runs and imagine that they won't soon have all relevant builds maxed and there will be no variety anyways.
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 603	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:05:00 - [13] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. respec your character, never accrue any more sp. i like that.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6619	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:10:00 - [14] - Quote low genius wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. respec your character, never accrue any more sp. i like that. Because you want to punish people for not living in the clouds and thinking that they're a unique snowflake and that you have an identity in DUST that anyone gives a **** about. No one does. This game is niche, with a tiny player base. When you know the majority of the names you face on the day to day, you know your FPS is freaking small.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1031	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:11:00 - [15] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. I agree with OP, but THIS is taking it too far. If they gave a respec but also stopped the gain of SP, they would lose alot of players. Why's that? The reason why there aren't any respecs is because you can skill everything. If you are able to respec there wouldn't be any point in getting unlimited SP.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6619	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:14:00 - [16] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Why's that? The reason why there aren't any respecs is because you can skill everything. If you are able to respec there wouldn't be any point in getting unlimited SP. Who said anything about unlimited back to back respecs? It's actually our side of the fence that are quite open to reasonable discussion on alternatives, but the Amarrian pride is showing in all those true bloods who feel their opinion is virtuous and true, and that all should suffer the wrath of daring to question their station. Respec does not turn 10 million SP into 100 million SP
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 603	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:18:00 - [17] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: low genius wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. respec your character, never accrue any more sp. i like that. Because you want to punish people for not living in the clouds and thinking that they're a unique snowflake and that you have an identity in DUST that anyone gives a **** about. No one does. This game is niche, with a tiny player base. When you know the majority of the names you face on the day to day, you know your FPS is freaking small. no, because it gives weight to your decision. if you really want to trade in all the skills you've trained (which is completely against the lore of the game) then play a game that does that. we like this game because it doesn't do that.
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 1900	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:22:00 - [18] - Quote Obviously I'm all for no-respecs except yearly (eve does this right?) once the game is in a state that could actually be called release. But we know we're in beta so why pretend like SP choices start now. too much chaos now and for the next year probably
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1480	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:24:00 - [19] - Quote low genius wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: low genius wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. respec your character, never accrue any more sp. i like that. Because you want to punish people for not living in the clouds and thinking that they're a unique snowflake and that you have an identity in DUST that anyone gives a **** about. No one does. This game is niche, with a tiny player base. When you know the majority of the names you face on the day to day, you know your FPS is freaking small. no, because it gives weight to your decision. if you really want to trade in all the skills you've trained (which is completely against the lore of the game) then play a game that does that. we like this game because it doesn't do that. YOU like the game because of it. The truth is , The mayority of the playerbase Doesnt care or WANT a respec. And if they give it to us, we will only loose AT MOST 100 players like you?. And earn back 1000 that want to have fun.... so im up for it.
grunt party Carbon 7 CRONOS. 61	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:26:00 - [20] - Quote sure u can have a respec but be aware it includes a lifetime ban

Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 382	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:26:00 - [21] - Quote For Christmas i would like no respecs for everybody.
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 235	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:26:00 - [22] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: See Lea Silencio ? I dont care if you get irritated..... You're cute. You're also a fail troll. And your KDR needs work. See? I can troll too, mommy!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6620	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:27:00 - [23] - Quote low genius wrote: no, because it gives weight to your decision. if you really want to trade in all the skills you've trained (which is completely against the lore of the game) then play a game that does that. we like this game because it doesn't do that. Maybe there's weight to your decision in a vast and full game like EVE where you are rather disconnected from your actual character. Much of the gameplay isn't even spent in ship for some, or at least no where near combat. I don't care either way for the simple fact that this game is drowing in noobs and it's impossible to not stomp people no matter how much SP you have. I just want to go back to where I was before they offered the last respec, even if they never fix the ******* dropships. I'm sorry some of us can't handle the anxiety of the nightmare that is logistics dropship flying, I've only just formulated basically the best fit and flight pattern to make it sort of kind of technically work, but god forbid a couple proto AVs show up on the other team on comms. Same goes for tanks, and anyone who somehow thought scout LAVs were a good idea. Your weight is sitting through months if not YEARS of CCPs inability to properly balance their game. (it took CCP over 1 year to change the logistics dropship PG / CPU to compensate for the CRU they forced on you.) People who think their decisions have weight in DUST are delusional, as all it takes is a bit of player skill to overcome everything but proto squads, and even then. You fill just one role, and everything else is fluff. You want to believe that this is real life though, or at least that it is EVE, and sadly, it is neither.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1480	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:29:00 - [24] - Quote grunt party wrote: sure u can have a respec but be aware it includes a lifetime ban who are you and why should i care what you say?
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1480	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:30:00 - [25] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: See Lea Silencio ? I dont care if you get irritated..... You're cute. You're also a fail troll. And your KDR needs work. See? I can troll too, mommy! My KDR is a work in progress (AND NOT one of my priorities) You call that trolling? I call it making a fool of yourself. But ok,i wont be too rough on you since i know you fight for Amarr....
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 235	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:36:00 - [26] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: See Lea Silencio ? I dont care if you get irritated..... You're cute. You're also a fail troll. And your KDR needs work. See? I can troll too, mommy! My KDR is a work in progress (AND NOT one of my priorities) You call that trolling? I call it making a fool of yourself. But ok,i wont be too rough on you since i know you fight for Amarr.... Lol. You couldn't be rough on me even if you tried, princess. Don't get it misunderstood...it is I giving "you" the pass.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1480	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:39:00 - [27] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Lol. You couldn't be rough on me even if you tried, princess. Don't get it misunderstood...it is I giving "you" the pass. AHAHHA you are funny. And lame.
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 236	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:42:00 - [28] - Quote Me> you. Shall we set up an appointment in ThunderDome? We can settle it there. You made a thread about me. Let me end you. It will be quick, I promise.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1480	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:45:00 - [29] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Me> you. Shall we set up an appointment in ThunderDome? We can settle it there. You made a thread about me. Let me end you. It will be quick, I promise. Death dealers have always been funny like that, even from the MAG days. Even when Pro hic and Dark Flock were the real deal they swore they ruled over raven. Bro. You might have a 100 K-D ratio and win games on your own. But still, you are but a mite on my eyes. Have fun raging with your 15y.o. 1v1 IRL f4gget crap.LOL
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6621	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:46:00 - [30] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Me> you. Shall we set up an appointment in ThunderDome? We can settle it there. You made a thread about me. Let me end you. It will be quick, I promise. I didn't even realize it was about anyone until you posted lol. Bloodbath!! Record it!

Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 236	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:49:00 - [31] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Me> you. Shall we set up an appointment in ThunderDome? We can settle it there. You made a thread about me. Let me end you. It will be quick, I promise. Death dealers have always been funny like that, even from the MAG days. Even when Pro hic and Dark Flock were the real deal they swore they ruled over raven. Bro. You might have a 100 K-D ratio and win games on your own. But still, you are but a mite on my eyes. Have fun raging with your 15y.o. 1v1 IRL f4gget crap.LOL So....I take that as a "no"? # runningscared #donttalkaboutitbeaboutit
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1480	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:50:00 - [32] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Me> you. Shall we set up an appointment in ThunderDome? We can settle it there. You made a thread about me. Let me end you. It will be quick, I promise. I didn't even realize it was about anyone until you posted lol. Bloodbath!! Record it! Fiend c'mon, you must be delusional if you think i have time to waste on a person i met today, just because he has run out of arguments and want to cpmensate in some other way. Im an adult you know....
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1480	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:51:00 - [33] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: So....I take that as a "no"? # runningscared #donttalkaboutitbeaboutit #YoucantmakemerageKID #Youarenotworthmytime
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 236	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:52:00 - [34] - Quote I'm just trying to settle this like men do. Let's duke it out and have a beer afterwards. No words; just action.
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 236	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:53:00 - [35] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Me> you. Shall we set up an appointment in ThunderDome? We can settle it there. You made a thread about me. Let me end you. It will be quick, I promise. Death dealers have always been funny like that, even from the MAG days. Even when Pro hic and Dark Flock were the real deal they swore they ruled over raven. Bro. You might have a 100 K-D ratio and win games on your own. But still, you are but a mite on my eyes. Have fun raging with your 15y.o. 1v1 IRL f4gget crap.LOL ''Me> you.'' You are assuming again, and based on numbers .LOL How does the saying go? "Numbers don't lie"? Or is it "facts are facts"? Hmmmm....
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1480	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:54:00 - [36] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: I'm just trying to settle this like men do. Let's duke it out and have a beer afterwards. No words; just action. Thats what ''swaggy teens'' and Animals do. Men talk. Thing you are unable to do properly. Exhausted opinions and arguments in a mere hour of forum action. Cant argue with me, like hell i will give you the honor to fight me.
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 236	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:55:00 - [37] - Quote So, are you still saying no?
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1480	Posted - 2013.10.02 01:58:00 - [38] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: So, are you still saying no? Wow. You cant even get a hint. Thats how brainless you are. no wonder...
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 237	Posted - 2013.10.02 02:02:00 - [39] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: So, are you still saying no? Wow. You cant even get a hint. Thats how brainless you are. no wonder... Well then, you heard it here first. He said no. Offer still stands for whenever you feel you are ready. Just message me in-game. Until then, enjoy your mediocraty and your cowardness in this fail attempt at a thread. Toodles!
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 311	Posted - 2013.10.02 02:05:00 - [40] - Quote CCP I WANT A COOKIE! oh sorry I thought we were declaring what we wanted, this is really between you two huh... wow this is awkward... I'll just be going then.

KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1482	Posted - 2013.10.02 02:07:00 - [41] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: So, are you still saying no? Wow. You cant even get a hint. Thats how brainless you are. no wonder... Well then, you heard it here first. He said no. Offer still stands for whenever you feel you are ready. Just message me in-game. Until then, enjoy your mediocraty and your cowardness in this fail attempt at a thread. Toodles! Here is my answer The only one failing here,is you.
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 237	Posted - 2013.10.02 02:10:00 - [42] - Quote You go through so much for me? A thread? A meme? Oustanding!
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 383	Posted - 2013.10.02 02:13:00 - [43] - Quote Are we in the midst of a troll off.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1482	Posted - 2013.10.02 02:14:00 - [44] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: You go through so much for me? A thread? A meme? Oustanding! And yet another fail troll. Bro , you call that so much? i call doing things right ;)
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 313	Posted - 2013.10.02 02:15:00 - [45] - Quote obligitory popcorn gif
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 237	Posted - 2013.10.02 02:15:00 - [46] - Quote Na, I'm done Vik. He wins the troll battle because he made a pretty pic. He loses in the honor department though. He knows what would have happened if he had chosen to accept. I don't blame him...I scare ME!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6623	Posted - 2013.10.02 02:16:00 - [47] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Are we in the midst of a troll off. If you purchased another 17 Prometheus and submited them to my account, I would fly reconnaissance to try and find out Unless that wasn't you, which is entirely possible because I have the memory of a potato.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1482	Posted - 2013.10.02 02:18:00 - [48] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Na, I'm done Vik. He wins the troll battle because he made a pretty pic. He loses in the honor department though. He knows what would have happened if he had chosen to accept. I don't blame him...I scare ME! Sure bro, we are all TERRIBLY scared of you. Im sure you mommy tells you you are special quite often too. heh...
Dust Junky 4Life Intara Direct Action Caldari State 21	Posted - 2013.10.02 12:22:00 - [49] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: See Lea Silencio ? I dont care if you get irritated..... Got miine yesterday via ticket. Respec or delete
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 597	Posted - 2013.10.02 12:34:00 - [50] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Na, I'm done Vik. He wins the troll battle because he made a pretty pic. He loses in the honor department though. He knows what would have happened if he had chosen to accept. I don't blame him...I scare ME! he wins because you have your head in your arse and you are suffering from tunnelvision

steve0809 GRIM MARCH 3	Posted - 2013.10.02 13:12:00 - [51] - Quote I would enjoy a kind of duelling game mode where players can call each other out 1 vs 1 and the rest of us could watch, we could bet on it and everything!
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 241	Posted - 2013.10.02 18:17:00 - [52] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Na, I'm done Vik. He wins the troll battle because he made a pretty pic. He loses in the honor department though. He knows what would have happened if he had chosen to accept. I don't blame him...I scare ME! he wins because you have your head in your arse and you are suffering from tunnelvision You should go back and re-read everything. 1. He took a response about my opinion concerning respecs in another thread and assumed it was aimed solely at him (which it wasn't). 2. He then made a thread putting my name in it for reasons unknown. 3. He made a claim. I responded. He got mad. 4. I challenged him to a 1v1 in the Dome to settle it. 5. He refused. Simple.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1032	Posted - 2013.10.02 18:34:00 - [53] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Obviously I'm all for no-respecs except yearly (eve does this right?) once the game is in a state that could actually be called release. But we know we're in beta so why pretend like SP choices start now. too much chaos now and for the next year probably No, Eve doesn't do that. What you can respec in Eve are your attributes, not your SP. I wouldn't have a problem with the introduction of Attributes in Dust though.
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 444	Posted - 2013.10.02 18:36:00 - [54] - Quote Respec granted...one condition though: If you do a respec, all your suits will be neon pink for 12 months and some SP will be deducted and put into assault dropships and plasma cannon proficiency.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6651	Posted - 2013.10.02 18:46:00 - [55] - Quote R'adeh Hunt wrote: Respec granted...one condition though: If you do a respec, all your suits will be neon pink for 12 months and some SP will be deducted and put into assault dropships and plasma cannon proficiency. Only if all assault dropships are bright pink, and the plasma cannon shoots rainbow charges. Also, when exiting the dropship in midair, you actually stand on top of the ship, and gain rapid fire with infinite ammo, though you cannot reenter the ship, and no one can enter the cockpit while you're on top of the ship.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 605	Posted - 2013.10.02 18:56:00 - [56] - Quote R'adeh Hunt wrote: Respec granted...one condition though: If you do a respec, all your suits will be neon pink for 12 months and some SP will be deducted and put into assault dropships and plasma cannon proficiency. sorry bro I already have PLC and Dropships skilled up but I would like to have pink suits! Lea Silencio wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Na, I'm done Vik. He wins the troll battle because he made a pretty pic. He loses in the honor department though. He knows what would have happened if he had chosen to accept. I don't blame him...I scare ME! he wins because you have your head in your arse and you are suffering from tunnelvision You should go back and re-read everything. 1. He took a response about my opinion concerning respecs in another thread and assumed it was aimed solely at him (which it wasn't). 2. He then made a thread putting my name in it for reasons unknown. 3. He made a claim. I responded. He got mad. 4. I challenged him to a 1v1 in the Dome to settle it. 5. He refused. Simple. you forgot to mention how he baited you into another thread showing that you are just another scrub


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