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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.01 23:57:00 -
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See Lea Silencio ? I dont care if you get irritated..... |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.01 23:59:00 -
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I b4 NO
NO |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:06:00 -
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DOWN WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT!!
We will overcome this oppression of ignorance and bigotry, and we will unite us ALL under the banner of freedom of choice!
Stand up and fight for your right to REEEESPEEEC! |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:09:00 -
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Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:23:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think.
I can live with that. I dont need unlimited SP. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:25:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. I agree with OP, but THIS is taking it too far. If they gave a respec but also stopped the gain of SP, they would lose alot of players. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:26:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. I agree with OP, but THIS is taking it too far. If they gave a respec but also stopped the gain of SP, they would lose alot of players.
Not really. at a 20 mill cap Many players could play forever having unlimited respecs. You reach 20 mil SP and play as assualt,next month i'll be heavy. Fun forever.
Why play? for ISK. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:26:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. I can live with that. I dont need unlimited SP. Don't take that kind of talk! It's oppression!!! |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:28:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. I agree with OP, but THIS is taking it too far. If they gave a respec but also stopped the gain of SP, they would lose alot of players. Not really. at a 20 mill cap Many players could play forever having unlimited respecs. You reach 20 mil SP and play as assualt,next month i'll be heavy. Fun forever.
Why play? for ISK. But I'm only at 10 mil! D: |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:30:00 -
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I want a respec and I wouldnt even use it unless they came out with other dropship races.
My sp is all where I want it for now, given the skill choices I had. Id like a respec for racials since those decisions werr based on either not playing eve or flying the wrong dropship.
But for other players I wish they could get a respec. Dust is still basically in beta and with the amount and frequency of changes new and oldnplayers deserve to not be penalized by ccps randonly changing the basis upon which decisions were made.
"Choices matter" is bs if your premises are swapped after the fact, you cannot deny it.
Regular respecs with new content and major balance changes till things are more stable and a big on at the end. |
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:37:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote: But I'm only at 10 mil! D:
Then you would, in theory,still have 10 mil more to ''cap'' XD |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:41:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Not really. at a 20 mill cap Many players could play forever having unlimited respecs. You reach 20 mil SP and play as assault, next month I'll be heavy. Fun forever.
Why play? for ISK. And that is the base of the issue.
We have these players who's heads are in the clouds, dreaming of a day where DUST will be a big and glorious game that resonates within the EVE universe, and they are firmly against admitting that it simply is not so, nor will it be so anywhere in the near future. They believe that DUST is filled with opportunity and diversity, blindly ignoring that all roles can be covered quite well with a fairly small amount of SP if you just focus a bit. They think this is EVE where there is a massive wealth of skills and things to do, and they RP in their heads when they play, to make the game feel larger than it actually is.
They think that people being able to spend their SP on new interesting things without re doing the SP grind, over and over, will somehow magically grant that player additional SP, as if his changing roles would ever impact you as a player. I'm sorry that you might actually have to use spies if you'd like to know what the opponent is going to field, but instead you'd rather just get used to what everyone runs and imagine that they won't soon have all relevant builds maxed and there will be no variety anyways. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:05:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think.
respec your character, never accrue any more sp. i like that. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:10:00 -
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low genius wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. respec your character, never accrue any more sp. i like that. Because you want to punish people for not living in the clouds and thinking that they're a unique snowflake and that you have an identity in DUST that anyone gives a **** about.
No one does.
This game is niche, with a tiny player base. When you know the majority of the names you face on the day to day, you know your FPS is freaking small. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:11:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. I agree with OP, but THIS is taking it too far. If they gave a respec but also stopped the gain of SP, they would lose alot of players.
Why's that? The reason why there aren't any respecs is because you can skill everything. If you are able to respec there wouldn't be any point in getting unlimited SP. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:14:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Why's that? The reason why there aren't any respecs is because you can skill everything. If you are able to respec there wouldn't be any point in getting unlimited SP.
Who said anything about unlimited back to back respecs?
It's actually our side of the fence that are quite open to reasonable discussion on alternatives, but the Amarrian pride is showing in all those true bloods who feel their opinion is virtuous and true, and that all should suffer the wrath of daring to question their station.
Respec does not turn 10 million SP into 100 million SP
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low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:18:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:low genius wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. respec your character, never accrue any more sp. i like that. Because you want to punish people for not living in the clouds and thinking that they're a unique snowflake and that you have an identity in DUST that anyone gives a **** about. No one does. This game is niche, with a tiny player base. When you know the majority of the names you face on the day to day, you know your FPS is freaking small.
no, because it gives weight to your decision. if you really want to trade in all the skills you've trained (which is completely against the lore of the game) then play a game that does that. we like this game because it doesn't do that. |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:22:00 -
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Obviously I'm all for no-respecs except yearly (eve does this right?) once the game is in a state that could actually be called release.
But we know we're in beta so why pretend like SP choices start now. too much chaos now and for the next year probably |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:24:00 -
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low genius wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:low genius wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Ok. You'll get your respec. But as soon as you get your respec you won't get unlimited SP anymore. You'll have to live with what you got so far. It's fair I think. respec your character, never accrue any more sp. i like that. Because you want to punish people for not living in the clouds and thinking that they're a unique snowflake and that you have an identity in DUST that anyone gives a **** about. No one does. This game is niche, with a tiny player base. When you know the majority of the names you face on the day to day, you know your FPS is freaking small. no, because it gives weight to your decision. if you really want to trade in all the skills you've trained (which is completely against the lore of the game) then play a game that does that. we like this game because it doesn't do that.
YOU like the game because of it.
The truth is , The mayority of the playerbase Doesnt care or WANT a respec. And if they give it to us, we will only loose AT MOST 100 players like you?. And earn back 1000 that want to have fun....
so im up for it. |
grunt party
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:26:00 -
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sure u can have a respec but be aware it includes a lifetime ban |
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:26:00 -
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For Christmas i would like no respecs for everybody. |
Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:26:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:See Lea Silencio ? I dont care if you get irritated.....
You're cute.
You're also a fail troll.
And your KDR needs work.
See? I can troll too, mommy! |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:27:00 -
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low genius wrote:no, because it gives weight to your decision. if you really want to trade in all the skills you've trained (which is completely against the lore of the game) then play a game that does that. we like this game because it doesn't do that. Maybe there's weight to your decision in a vast and full game like EVE where you are rather disconnected from your actual character. Much of the gameplay isn't even spent in ship for some, or at least no where near combat.
I don't care either way for the simple fact that this game is drowing in noobs and it's impossible to not stomp people no matter how much SP you have. I just want to go back to where I was before they offered the last respec, even if they never fix the ******* dropships. I'm sorry some of us can't handle the anxiety of the nightmare that is logistics dropship flying, I've only just formulated basically the best fit and flight pattern to make it sort of kind of technically work, but god forbid a couple proto AVs show up on the other team on comms.
Same goes for tanks, and anyone who somehow thought scout LAVs were a good idea. Your weight is sitting through months if not YEARS of CCPs inability to properly balance their game. (it took CCP over 1 year to change the logistics dropship PG / CPU to compensate for the CRU they forced on you.)
People who think their decisions have weight in DUST are delusional, as all it takes is a bit of player skill to overcome everything but proto squads, and even then. You fill just one role, and everything else is fluff. You want to believe that this is real life though, or at least that it is EVE, and sadly, it is neither.
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:29:00 -
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grunt party wrote:sure u can have a respec but be aware it includes a lifetime ban
who are you and why should i care what you say? |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:30:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:See Lea Silencio ? I dont care if you get irritated..... You're cute. You're also a fail troll. And your KDR needs work. See? I can troll too, mommy!
My KDR is a work in progress (AND NOT one of my priorities)
You call that trolling? I call it making a fool of yourself.
But ok,i wont be too rough on you since i know you fight for Amarr.... |
Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:36:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:See Lea Silencio ? I dont care if you get irritated..... You're cute. You're also a fail troll. And your KDR needs work. See? I can troll too, mommy! My KDR is a work in progress (AND NOT one of my priorities)You call that trolling? I call it making a fool of yourself. But ok,i wont be too rough on you since i know you fight for Amarr....
Lol. You couldn't be rough on me even if you tried, princess. Don't get it misunderstood...it is I giving "you" the pass. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:39:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote: Lol. You couldn't be rough on me even if you tried, princess. Don't get it misunderstood...it is I giving "you" the pass.
AHAHHA you are funny. And lame. |
Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:42:00 -
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Me> you.
Shall we set up an appointment in ThunderDome? We can settle it there.
You made a thread about me. Let me end you. It will be quick, I promise. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:45:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Me> you.
Shall we set up an appointment in ThunderDome? We can settle it there.
You made a thread about me. Let me end you. It will be quick, I promise.
Death dealers have always been funny like that, even from the MAG days. Even when Pro hic and Dark Flock were the real deal they swore they ruled over raven. Bro. You might have a 100 K-D ratio and win games on your own. But still, you are but a mite on my eyes. Have fun raging with your 15y.o. 1v1 IRL f4gget crap.LOL |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:46:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Me> you.
Shall we set up an appointment in ThunderDome? We can settle it there.
You made a thread about me. Let me end you. It will be quick, I promise. I didn't even realize it was about anyone until you posted lol.
Bloodbath!! Record it!
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