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LudiKure ninda
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.10.01 11:50:00 -
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I am using my AFG for few days now... and only thing I can say is WOW
That thing is just like you hawe a Railgun turrent in your hands with splash dmg and much more dps...
Yesterday I was ontop of tower in Domination, I got 34 kills with 4 deaths,killed 3 tanks,4 shots to kill any tank,dropship go down 2 shots max (one shot is enough to shake him up badly) You dont hawe to be ontop of tower to be good with it,I was yust running around with my sqad defending me,and I still got like 12 / 20 kills easily.. With skills maxed out (wich I still dont hawe) and good aming with it, FG becomes insane killing machine.
For me AFG is better then HMG against infantry
It should be nerfed! Anyone agree with me??
PS sry for my bad english |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
573
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Posted - 2013.10.01 11:51:00 -
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That's nice. Moving on. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1323
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Posted - 2013.10.01 11:53:00 -
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LudiKure ninda wrote:I am using my AFG for few days now... and only thing I can say is WOW That thing is just like you hawe a Railgun turrent in your hands with splash dmg and much more dps... Yesterday I was ontop of tower in Domination, I got 34 kills with 4 deaths,killed 3 tanks,4 shots to kill any tank,dropship go down 2 shots max (one shot is enough to shake him up badly) You dont hawe to be ontop of tower to be good with it,I was yust running around with my sqad defending me,and I still got like 12 / 20 kills easily.. With skills maxed out (wich I still dont hawe) and good aming with it, FG becomes insane killing machine. For me AFG is better then HMG against infantry It should be nerfed! Anyone agree with me?? PS sry for my bad english
again? Please do a search of the forums before making a repeat topic.
Forge guns aren't the problem. Sniping from towers is a problem. In any other circumstance the playing field is much more even. |
LudiKure ninda
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
24
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Posted - 2013.10.01 11:57:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:LudiKure ninda wrote:I am using my AFG for few days now... and only thing I can say is WOW That thing is just like you hawe a Railgun turrent in your hands with splash dmg and much more dps... Yesterday I was ontop of tower in Domination, I got 34 kills with 4 deaths,killed 3 tanks,4 shots to kill any tank,dropship go down 2 shots max (one shot is enough to shake him up badly) You dont hawe to be ontop of tower to be good with it,I was yust running around with my sqad defending me,and I still got like 12 / 20 kills easily.. With skills maxed out (wich I still dont hawe) and good aming with it, FG becomes insane killing machine. For me AFG is better then HMG against infantry It should be nerfed! Anyone agree with me?? PS sry for my bad english again? Forge guns aren't the problem. Sniping from towers is a problem.In any other circumstance the playing field is much more even.
I agree with you about tower sniping,..but charge time,dmg with skills maxed out,and few dmg mods,it kills shield tanks i one clip and I didnt se any assault dropship flying around for a month now :P |
LudiKure ninda
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
24
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Posted - 2013.10.01 12:04:00 -
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Im repeting this chause I want ccp do something about this!! Like ceopyrex said FG shouldnt even hit a dropship!! im a vehicle user,and I want to fly a freeking dropship!!!
Yeah and one more thing,it is ridiculus that W.Breach FG can one shot my tank?! That is ********!! |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
556
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Posted - 2013.10.01 12:07:00 -
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lol these tower forgers, giving us TRUE forgers a bad name, b-i-t-c-h- please, get your ass on the ground and see if that AFG is feeling OP when you have a lot of people shooting at you, i bet you would change your opinion about the FG.
lol breach FG OP? you do know that you can't move when you charge that type of FG? |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
573
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Posted - 2013.10.01 12:07:00 -
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LudiKure ninda wrote:Im repeting this chause I want ccp do something about this!! Like ceopyrex said FG shouldnt even hit a dropship!! im a vehicle user,and I want to fly a freeking dropship!!! Yeah and one more thing,it is ridiculus that W.Breach FG can one shot my tank?! That is ********!! This explains everything...
There's nothing new to see here, folks. |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
389
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Posted - 2013.10.01 12:08:00 -
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I stopped reading at "Yesterday I was ontop of tower in Domination". That phrase alone dismerits everything that'll come after it. |
lDocHollidayl
Ancient Exiles
271
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Posted - 2013.10.01 12:22:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:lol these tower forgers, giving us TRUE forgers a bad name, b-i-t-c-h- please, get your ass on the ground and see if that AFG is feeling OP when you have a lot of people shooting at you, i bet you would change your opinion about the FG.
lol breach FG OP? you do know that you can't move when you charge that type of FG?
Agree. It feels OP when used as tower sniping...but it is only OP in pubs. Watch a PC match and Forge gunners do not top the list or kill feed. It is a huge bazooka used to contain tanks and guard letters. Very vulnerable to all infantry and tanks. The heavy suit scares no one. I doubt it will get nerfed as no one sees it spammed...which is how CCP defines OPness...which I respect. |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
557
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Posted - 2013.10.01 12:28:00 -
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lDocHollidayl wrote:Chibi Andy wrote:lol these tower forgers, giving us TRUE forgers a bad name, b-i-t-c-h- please, get your ass on the ground and see if that AFG is feeling OP when you have a lot of people shooting at you, i bet you would change your opinion about the FG.
lol breach FG OP? you do know that you can't move when you charge that type of FG? Agree. It feels OP when used as tower sniping...but it is only OP in pubs. Watch a PC match and Forge gunners do not top the list or kill feed. It is a huge bazooka used to contain tanks and guard letters. Very vulnerable to all infantry and tanks. The heavy suit scares no one. I doubt it will get nerfed as no one sees it spammed...which is how CCP defines OPness...which I respect.
lol it would be a sight to see a pub match filled with heavy users hahaha |
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9mm DJ Skrull
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
4
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Posted - 2013.10.01 12:33:00 -
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I hated forge gunners in general for keeping my awesome piloting skills on the ground, until I read this post.
Now, I'm glad to see everyone hates the tower sniper forge guns.
I like getting surprised when i turn a corner looking to see a patch of wounded players, only to be disintegrated by a forge gun I never knew was there, it's funny even if I die.
But the fact that their projectile energy ball travels at the speed of light is the problem. Slowing them down a bit shouldn't effect ground warfare, but it should give us pilots at least a chance and give up their position better. |
Evan Gotabor
Prima Gallicus
0
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Posted - 2013.10.01 12:46:00 -
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As an half dropship pilot (both assault and logistic) and half a logistic, I can confrim (like a lot of players) that the forge gun need a lot of work (like everything concerning the vehicules I guess). I got a proto swarm launcher and it's not as OP.
First, the swarm can't hit the infantry which is normal Second, the rockets got a limited fly time, unlike the FG which can shoot my drophip from the other side of the map. Third, a drophip with an active speed booster is FASTER than rockets, but not as fast as the forge gun (which is logical after all).
CCP could do things to the forge gun like : - Have the same damages as the swarm launcher at the same level as a counterpart you can have different models with less charge time, or deliver 2/3 blast (like the cyclic turret). Because for the moment one of the proto forge gun can deliver more than 3000 damages with damagers and skills. - Do something with the area effect ; why a blast of forge gun (militia) would make make my dropship become crazy to fly when a proto swarm launcher do almost nothing to my stability. - Make sure it can't hit the infantry anymore, after all we have the plasma canon to do that, and it's quite fun and MORE REWARDING.
To put it in a nutshell : Forge gun is to the weapons what the Charybdis were to vehicules a few month ago : cheated things
Sniping from the tower is a secondary effect of the drop uplink tactic. You don't want them to be destroyed ? So you reduce the chance for them to be spot by use them on a tower, and then half of the team take sniper rifle and forge gun, shoot everything and LOST the battle. |
DS 10
Will Ring For Booze
992
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Posted - 2013.10.01 12:47:00 -
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lDocHollidayl wrote:Chibi Andy wrote:lol these tower forgers, giving us TRUE forgers a bad name, b-i-t-c-h- please, get your ass on the ground and see if that AFG is feeling OP when you have a lot of people shooting at you, i bet you would change your opinion about the FG.
lol breach FG OP? you do know that you can't move when you charge that type of FG? Agree. It feels OP when used as tower sniping...but it is only OP in pubs. Watch a PC match and Forge gunners do not top the list or kill feed. It is a huge bazooka used to contain tanks and guard letters. Very vulnerable to all infantry and tanks. The heavy suit scares no one. I doubt it will get nerfed as no one sees it spammed...which is how CCP defines OPness...which I respect.
This is my argument as well. I had a 27-0 PC against STB once, but I also took 0 damage. Most PC matches I don't do great. Good, yes, but I'm fully specced and have been FGing since the respec.
You can't judge OP by pubs. If they were truly OP there would be 10 players per game running FGs. I rarely ever see more than 2 in a game |
DS 10
Will Ring For Booze
992
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Posted - 2013.10.01 12:48:00 -
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Evan Gotabor wrote:As an half dropship pilot (both assault and logistic) and half a logistic, I can confrim (like a lot of players) that the forge gun need a lot of work (like everything concerning the vehicules I guess). I got a proto swarm launcher and it's not as OP.
First, the swarm can't hit the infantry which is normal Second, the rockets got a limited fly time, unlike the FG which can shoot my drophip from the other side of the map. Third, a drophip with an active speed booster is FASTER than rockets, but not as fast as the forge gun (which is logical after all).
CCP could do things to the forge gun like : - Have the same damages as the swarm launcher at the same level as a counterpart you can have different models with less charge time, or deliver 2/3 blast (like the cyclic turret). Because for the moment one of the proto forge gun can deliver more than 3000 damages with damagers and skills. - Do something with the area effect ; why a blast of forge gun (militia) would make make my dropship become crazy to fly when a proto swarm launcher do almost nothing to my stability. - Make sure it can't hit the infantry anymore, after all we have the plasma canon to do that, and it's quite fun and MORE REWARDING.
To put it in a nutshell : Forge gun is to the weapons what the Charybdis were to vehicules a few month ago : cheated things
Sniping from the tower is a secondary effect of the drop uplink tactic. You don't want them to be destroyed ? So you reduce the chance for them to be spot by use them on a tower, and then half of the team take sniper rifle and forge gun, shoot everything and LOST the battle.
FGs are anti-material, not anti-vehicle. |
HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles
3706
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Posted - 2013.10.01 12:51:00 -
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LudiKure ninda wrote:Im repeting this chause I want ccp do something about this!! Like ceopyrex said FG shouldnt even hit a dropship!! im a vehicle user,and I want to fly a freeking dropship!!! Yeah and one more thing,it is ridiculus that W.Breach FG can one shot my tank?! That is ********!!
LOL just another Tanker complaining about forge guns under the disguise of I used it once to great effect.
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lDocHollidayl
Ancient Exiles
272
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Posted - 2013.10.01 12:57:00 -
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Evan Gotabor wrote:As an half dropship pilot (both assault and logistic) and half a logistic, I can confrim (like a lot of players) that the forge gun need a lot of work (like everything concerning the vehicules I guess). I got a proto swarm launcher and it's not as OP.
First, the swarm can't hit the infantry which is normal Second, the rockets got a limited fly time, unlike the FG which can shoot my drophip from the other side of the map. Third, a drophip with an active speed booster is FASTER than rockets, but not as fast as the forge gun (which is logical after all).
CCP could do things to the forge gun like : - Have the same damages as the swarm launcher at the same level as a counterpart you can have different models with less charge time, or deliver 2/3 blast (like the cyclic turret). Because for the moment one of the proto forge gun can deliver more than 3000 damages with damagers and skills. - Do something with the area effect ; why a blast of forge gun (militia) would make make my dropship become crazy to fly when a proto swarm launcher do almost nothing to my stability. - Make sure it can't hit the infantry anymore, after all we have the plasma canon to do that, and it's quite fun and MORE REWARDING.
To put it in a nutshell : Forge gun is to the weapons what the Charybdis were to vehicules a few month ago : cheated things
Sniping from the tower is a secondary effect of the drop uplink tactic. You don't want them to be destroyed ? So you reduce the chance for them to be spot by use them on a tower, and then half of the team take sniper rifle and forge gun, shoot everything and LOST the battle.
Most humbly stop the misinformation. The forge range is only 300 meters...the maps in this game are much larger and include height with distance means forges hit Dropships from a rather close distance relative to map size...the only time a forge is hitting you across the map is the smallest ambush map. REMEMBER the forge also has travel time. I also am a dropship pilot and agree the forge murders the involvement of dropships. It all matters on CCP's vision. Dropships are used in every PC match...ALL of them with competent players...so they still have a role. |
Moochie Cricket
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
472
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:00:00 -
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Range, damage, or splash.
Pick two |
DS 10
Will Ring For Booze
993
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:04:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:Range, damage, or splash.
Pick two
Counter or don't counter.
Pick one. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
458
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:05:00 -
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LudiKure ninda wrote:I am using my AFG for few days now... and only thing I can say is WOW That thing is just like you hawe a Railgun turrent in your hands with splash dmg and much more dps... Yesterday I was ontop of tower in Domination, I got 34 kills with 4 deaths,killed 3 tanks,4 shots to kill any tank,dropship go down 2 shots max (one shot is enough to shake him up badly) You dont hawe to be ontop of tower to be good with it,I was yust running around with my sqad defending me,and I still got like 12 / 20 kills easily.. With skills maxed out (wich I still dont hawe) and good aming with it, FG becomes insane killing machine. For me AFG is better then HMG against infantry It should be nerfed! Anyone agree with me?? PS sry for my bad english
Yes, yes we all know about this by now. And yes it is a scrub weapon. So please do yourself a favor and don't sully yourself by using it seriously. You will lose respect with every shot. |
LudiKure ninda
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
25
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:05:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:Range, damage, or splash.
Pick two
Range!! |
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
557
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:06:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:Range, damage, or splash.
Pick two Counter or don't counter. Pick one.
limited fuel or limited ammo
tankers and pilots choose one |
LudiKure ninda
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
25
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:12:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:LudiKure ninda wrote:I am using my AFG for few days now... and only thing I can say is WOW That thing is just like you hawe a Railgun turrent in your hands with splash dmg and much more dps... Yesterday I was ontop of tower in Domination, I got 34 kills with 4 deaths,killed 3 tanks,4 shots to kill any tank,dropship go down 2 shots max (one shot is enough to shake him up badly) You dont hawe to be ontop of tower to be good with it,I was yust running around with my sqad defending me,and I still got like 12 / 20 kills easily.. With skills maxed out (wich I still dont hawe) and good aming with it, FG becomes insane killing machine. For me AFG is better then HMG against infantry It should be nerfed! Anyone agree with me?? PS sry for my bad english Yes, yes we all know about this by now. And yes it is a scrub weapon. So please do yourself a favor and don't sully yourself by using it seriously. You will lose respect with every shot.
I dont give a **** about respect, this is a ******* game!!
I just wanna hawe fun in this game with my vehicles (tanks and dropships) or FG, and yeah that penalty that imobilze you while charging is usles while on the tower..
In every PC match I was there was few FG guys on the towers,and not to say in pub matches,... |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1324
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:31:00 -
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LudiKure ninda wrote:
I dont give a **** about respect, this is a ******* game!!
I just wanna hawe fun in this game with my vehicles (tanks and dropships) or FG, and yeah that penalty that imobilze you while charging is usles while on the tower..
In every PC match I was there was few FG guys on the towers,and not to say in pub matches,...
Calm down little dude
The real problem are the towers lol not the FG's
Standard has a low rate of fire Assault makes it difficult to aim And Breach welds you to the floor
All have limited ammo, a charge up, and are almost useless hitting anything on a level plane or above them...
And some other stuff i cant be botherd to go over as its all been done already |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6566
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:33:00 -
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Forge guns totally OP, as forge gunner and pilot.
I've only landed a couple of my thousands of forge gun kills that actually made me feel not like a dirty scrub. |
Harpyja
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
593
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:35:00 -
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AFG needs to have less damage per shot than a regular FG if it's going to have a higher RoF.
Also, shot deviation!! |
DS 10
Will Ring For Booze
994
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:44:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:LudiKure ninda wrote:
I dont give a **** about respect, this is a ******* game!!
I just wanna hawe fun in this game with my vehicles (tanks and dropships) or FG, and yeah that penalty that imobilze you while charging is usles while on the tower..
In every PC match I was there was few FG guys on the towers,and not to say in pub matches,...
Calm down little dude The real problem are the towers lol not the FG's Standard has a low rate of fire Assault makes it difficult to aim And Breach welds you to the floor All have limited ammo, a charge up, and are almost useless hitting anything on a level plane or above them... And some other stuff i cant be botherd to go over as its all been done already
THANK YOU. The method paired with the lack of enemies actually doing anything to stop it is what makes the FG seem OP. |
Moochie Cricket
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
472
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:48:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:Range, damage, or splash.
Pick two Counter or don't counter. Pick one.
As a dropship pilot how do you propose I do that?
By having half a squad on the ground hunting you down?
So you think its ok for you to be able to go solo and take down dropships all by yourself while the only way for a pilot to counter isby using multiple people? |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1325
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:52:00 -
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Oh and to Dropship Pilots...
Im really sorry, but you have been squishy little flying pinatas for a long long time. Again that isnt an issue with the FG.
I actually feel sorry for you, i really do.
I have spent many hours getting the nack of leading the right amount to hit you. and if you sit still... well your asking for a shot to your weak spot... |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1035
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:55:00 -
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LudiKure ninda wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:LudiKure ninda wrote:I am using my AFG for few days now... and only thing I can say is WOW That thing is just like you hawe a Railgun turrent in your hands with splash dmg and much more dps... Yesterday I was ontop of tower in Domination, I got 34 kills with 4 deaths,killed 3 tanks,4 shots to kill any tank,dropship go down 2 shots max (one shot is enough to shake him up badly) You dont hawe to be ontop of tower to be good with it,I was yust running around with my sqad defending me,and I still got like 12 / 20 kills easily.. With skills maxed out (wich I still dont hawe) and good aming with it, FG becomes insane killing machine. For me AFG is better then HMG against infantry It should be nerfed! Anyone agree with me?? PS sry for my bad english again? Forge guns aren't the problem. Sniping from towers is a problem.In any other circumstance the playing field is much more even. I agree with you about tower sniping,..but charge time,dmg with skills maxed out,and few dmg mods,it kills shield tanks i one clip and I didnt se any assault dropship flying around for a month now :P
Yea, well that charge time seems like an eternity when you are getting shot at by Duvolles with Damage Mods that drop you faster than you can switch to your sidearm.
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DS 10
Will Ring For Booze
995
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:58:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:DS 10 wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:Range, damage, or splash.
Pick two Counter or don't counter. Pick one. As a dropship pilot how do you propose I do that? By having half a squad on the ground hunting you down? So you think its ok for you to be able to go solo and take down dropships all by yourself while the only way for a pilot to counter isby using multiple people?
I'm a HUGE believer in the need for a Dropship HP buff. That's the problem.
And why shouldn't your infantry gun for me? I get killed in PC by snipers regularly. No one in pubs cares enough to try, yet they cry OP. When I take less than 1000 damage in a game, how is it my fault I go 22-0? |
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