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calisk galern
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:28:00 -
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the current blue prints will likely be the same as militia blue prints in eve....worthless.
I mean if they are going into a eve industrial production method, they will have proto blue prints available, but they will need to be used to actually produce the suits and sell them on the market, assuming this is true the ones we have now will likely be worthless to eve players as they will never spend their money on them.
assuming the functionality of the current bpos remain the same they will only have collector value attached to them. |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:31:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:BPOs were also on the market for like 50 AUR a pop for the longest time during beta before CCP bumped the price up 100-fold for open beta some people stocked up. Not sure it'll pay off cuz... militia gear. But we'll see.
this is another reason why they will be worthless |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:35:00 -
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seriously guys how much would you pay in isk for a militia bpo?
I wouldn't pay over a mil for something i'd never use, and even that is a stretch, since it won't save me nearly that much isk... |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:39:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Come on... most were more like 15-20 AUR
The trick is they are ISK makers for anyone who owns them, and if you cant get hold of them anymore they become worth more.
i can lose 0isk in a match with a suit that is fundementally better purely to better fitting than other militia free suits.
that is true, but amount of lose you're talking about for using the base item is like 100-700 isk....
you won't be losing much, and it's a guarnteed profit either way.
if a person spends millions of isk to buy one of these bpos they would need to die 1000's of times for it to make them a profit. |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:03:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:calisk galern wrote:that is true, but amount of lose you're talking about for using the base item is like 100-700 isk....
you won't be losing much, and it's a guarnteed profit either way.
if a person spends millions of isk to buy one of these bpos they would need to die 1000's of times for it to make them a profit. I wouldn't touch the infantry BPOs for the reason you mention (militia is so cheap) and because of the high fitting costs compared to standard modules. However, vehicle module BPOs are a whole different story. They cost thousands of ISK, and most players don't have the skill for standard modules. I recently picked some up because I had some spare AUR and the BPOs are as good as the best ISK equivalents I can use. For (I think) 4,500 AUR my BPO LAV (from a pack) now has three shield damage reduction modules sat on it - has saved me a couple of times already. Now you might say 'why waste AUR when you could just buy the modules for ISK', but bear in mind this is my throwaway LAV fit. At the start of every match I drive it to the objective and forget about it. Three militia modules is still tens of thousands of ISK, and I wouldn't feel I had the freedom to abandon the vehicle if I'd paid for it. I'd have to go back and recall it, which loses me time and is a risk. So you're not only paying AUR to save yourself ISK but also for the freedom.
i'll agree that is true right now, but let's say in the near future they balance match pay outs and you start gaining 600k-1mil isk from a win, in some new game mode.
would that 10k from throw away mods really matter. I have an lav bpo, and that thing will be useful for a long time, but I could see eventually having so much isk that it really doesn't matter as well. |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:33:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:calisk galern wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:calisk galern wrote:that is true, but amount of lose you're talking about for using the base item is like 100-700 isk....
you won't be losing much, and it's a guarnteed profit either way.
if a person spends millions of isk to buy one of these bpos they would need to die 1000's of times for it to make them a profit. I wouldn't touch the infantry BPOs for the reason you mention (militia is so cheap) and because of the high fitting costs compared to standard modules. However, vehicle module BPOs are a whole different story. They cost thousands of ISK, and most players don't have the skill for standard modules. I recently picked some up because I had some spare AUR and the BPOs are as good as the best ISK equivalents I can use. For (I think) 4,500 AUR my BPO LAV (from a pack) now has three shield damage reduction modules sat on it - has saved me a couple of times already. Now you might say 'why waste AUR when you could just buy the modules for ISK', but bear in mind this is my throwaway LAV fit. At the start of every match I drive it to the objective and forget about it. Three militia modules is still tens of thousands of ISK, and I wouldn't feel I had the freedom to abandon the vehicle if I'd paid for it. I'd have to go back and recall it, which loses me time and is a risk. So you're not only paying AUR to save yourself ISK but also for the freedom. i'll agree that is true right now, but let's say in the near future they balance match pay outs and you start gaining 600k-1mil isk from a win, in some new game mode. would that 10k from throw away mods really matter. I have an lav bpo, and that thing will be useful for a long time, but I could see eventually having so much isk that it really doesn't matter as well. Don't think we'll ever have 1mil ISK for a win. It would be terrible for newbros as vets would be full proto 24/7.
we get 2 mil isk from a pc win right now, usually you get an extra 400-600k in salvage as well
eve operates in 100's of billions of isk, dust operates in millions, unless this gap is changed an open market will always be impossible, and this is likely why we don't have it yet. |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:48:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:Im willing to bet this has nothing at all to do with merging the markets and more so to do with AUR sales being much lower than they have ever been so they are hoping people will rush to buy BPOs before they go away.
my hypothesis is actually the opposite.
bpo's are likely generating close to nothing so they probably see it as wasted potential, seriously who would buy these things....
if they were really only worried about money they'd simply release advanced or proto bpo's and milk the cash till the game died, but they aren't they are re-purposing them, hopefully into something useful that will benefit the game.
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