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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:33:00 -
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Since I can't find my original post to edit, I'm just going to re-create it. Either way, the chart now has Omega Boosters tied into it and I have to say I'm a little disappointed at what I've come to find.
Bear in mind that the Cyan line is Total SP Accrued without Boosters, and the orange line above it is the Active Omega Booster.
http://i.imgur.com/yFyqC0V.png
So over the course of six months, someone using both of the Omega Boosters would have attained 9,318,400 SP more than someone who did not have any boosters at all for that duration. Do with the information what you will, but I for one think that this is a bit ridiculous. |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:38:00 -
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noob cavman wrote: Wait...what. no really WHAT THE HELL!?! 
Mhmm.... Honestly, I'm not even surprised.... |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:42:00 -
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Sarducar Kahn wrote:But how much does 6months of double omega cost?
'bout $400 with 55,000 aurum to spare if you go with the 200,000 aurum packs. |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:52:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:9 million extra sp.... I feel like throwing up its that stupid. Do ccp check the numbers their boosters can achive over a time period?
I'd imagine they do but considering that Marketing doesn't view the forums, let alone actively engage in the community - the only thing they see is the revenue gained from it rather than the disparity it causes and the feeling of 'pay-to-win' that potentially prevents new players from joining.
Review by Destroid back in May:
"With a hefty amount of microtransactions that border on offensive, there is a very ambitious, competitive game underneath the sloppy veneer." |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:58:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Yes, they did.
Exactly 50% more than regular boosters for more than twice than regular cost.
This is seriously not that big of a deal. You're not paying to win, nobody is skilling beyond proto and by the time you reach advanced gear they are more than manageable.
We playing the same game..? |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:04:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:noob cavman wrote:We are not arsed about that. Its the fact person A plays with out boosters while person B plays with both omega and gains 9 million extra over person A for just having more money. You're playing the game for free. You have no rights.
Interesting argument. In that case, I would like an instant 20,000,000 SP right now for the fact that I bought the Collector's Edition of Eve Online and have been playing Eve Online for six years, paying via monthly subscription. You have no right to say otherwise. |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:13:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:noob cavman wrote:We are not arsed about that. Its the fact person A plays with out boosters while person B plays with both omega and gains 9 million extra over person A for just having more money. You're playing the game for free. You have no rights. Interesting argument. In that case, I would like an instant 20,000,000 SP right now for the fact that I bought the Collector's Edition of Eve Online and have been playing Eve Online for six years, paying via monthly subscription. You have no right to say otherwise. Freedom of speech doesn't apply to the internet. CCP only extends that right to its customers, and can revoke it at any time. It's not guaranteed. But I will speak anyway since nobody is going to stop me. And with that speech I will point out that at no point when you bought the collectors edition was 20,000,000 Dust SP offered to you as part of the package. Everything is working as intended. If you want to play like a cheap person and spend nothing, your character will eventually be viable enough to tackle skillful protos. It will simply take a while longer. You are, after all, playing the game these people have been slaving over to create for free. Why should you receive the same treatment as someone who as effectively paid to support it? It's not pay to win, but there should be an incentive to make cheap bastards actually support the game they are leeching off of.
A thousand other ways that this can be done without creating disparity between players who can/do pay over those that can't/don't. The second they pulled the cosmetic dropsuits off the market was the second they turned their back on the vision of "all items will have an ISK variant". |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:28:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:
It's been said before: those that can't/don't pay are not customers - they are content.
Welcome to real life folks.
CCP's model is actually about as 'fair' as it gets for f2p. Absolutely nothing you can do with $$$ that you can't do in just a little more time if you're a cheap bastard.
Find me another competitive F2P game that does this is and is considered favorable by gamers that has meta-game aspects like territorial gain. |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:07:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:This is a tough issue. While I agree that there should be other ways for CCP to make it's money without pushing special boosters unfortunately boosters really are the only thing worth spending money on in this game. And I also think newer players are more likely to buy them. So it might actually help to make up the SP gap. Older players are so jaded right now it will be hard to get any money from them. Just my .02 isk.
edit: Can you imagine the uproar if the Omegas were only available to new players? lol
Can you imagine the uproar if Omega boosters were available to all players for a limited time at extraordinary prices? |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:11:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:This is a tough issue. While I agree that there should be other ways for CCP to make it's money without pushing special boosters unfortunately boosters really are the only thing worth spending money on in this game. And I also think newer players are more likely to buy them. So it might actually help to make up the SP gap. Older players are so jaded right now it will be hard to get any money from them. Just my .02 isk.
edit: Can you imagine the uproar if the Omegas were only available to new players? lol Can you imagine the uproar if Omega boosters were available to all players for a limited time at extraordinary prices? LOL... I don't have to imagine it. I'm reading it all over the forums right now....  It does suck that they are so expensive but honestly anything making CCP money right now from Dust has to be a positive thing.
Thousand ways they can make money they're not exploring right now. As previously stated, I'm sure half of the player base would drop $50 for an exotic dancer in their quarters. |
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:14:00 -
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Silas Swakhammer wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Thousand ways they can make money they're not exploring right now. As previously stated, I'm sure half of the player base would drop $50 for an exotic dancer in their quarters. This reason alone is why no one is taking you seriously. I'm surprised no one has brought this up yet, but here's Extra Credits' ideas on Microtransactions and the F2P model. They bash an old CCP model, but herald the F2P model as the future industry standard.
I do watch Extra Credits, but a lot of their topics are geared toward the MMORPG community - not the F2P FPS community. When it comes down to it, you can have enough SP to run a Proto suit for PC but that's it - you have no way to react if the enemy changes tactics mid-game on you. If you've invested a heavy degree of SP toward Armor Tanking and the enemy starts fielding Mass Drivers and HMGs, you better pray that someone on your team has enough SP to delve into the alternatives.
In a game of Rock/Paper/Scissors, it's essentially forcing one player to always go rock while the other can change out between the three. |
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