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Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1083
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:11:00 -
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Hello folks, everyone frequenting the forums at the moment is aware of the current debate about glitching and the tournament results.
theres more at steak then just the tournament results, CCPs responce (or silence) on the issue will determine CCPs stance on glitching and its validity in the game.
let me put this simple, in the past i created the Glitch Ninjas, a codename for a group of glitch testers who worked on replicating the invisability glitch. those who remember the Infam0us invisable shotgunners will have an idea of what we acomplished.
So instead of debating this topic like its about the results of the tournament i suggest you debate weather or nto you want every single game you enter to be glitch heaven.
IF CCP validates the tournament glitching or stays silent on the subject i will create the Glitch Ninjas once more with the objective of finding and abusing as many glitches as possable and spreading the information.
becuase of CCPs release schedual limitations most glitches have a two month shelf life minimum from introduction to full fix (baed on the source of the glitch and sony QA, asuming a 1 month release schedual)
that means that if successful glitch ninjas will spread glitches intot he general population enough that you wont be able to enter a game without glitches being rampant. and those glitches will be valid for a 2 month timespan.
so the true debate should be about weather or not you want this scenario to play out. because if CCP stays silent gliching will be common practice, and it may kill the game as wel know it.
Decide, do you want the game to be full of glitches, macros, and the like? |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2015
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:20:00 -
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Normally I hate supporting these sort of tactics but **** it, burn it to the ground and let all these guys see what its like to be on the other side then lets see how many threads they make complaining about it while forgetting that they were in full "herp derp you iz cryin" mode today |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1084
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:20:00 -
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To all who support the tournament glitching, you now support the glitch ninjas, you cannot support one wihtout supporting the widespread and rampant glitch use
to all those who oppose glitching, i apologise but it must be done.
to all those who wish to join me, keep an eye on the corp recruitment forum, an announcement will be made there once the verdict on the tournament is in.
feel free to use this thread as a palce to discuss what the tournament verdict and widespread glitch use will do to the game as a whole. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
1085
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:24:00 -
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So you're like a terrorist? |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1084
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:25:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:So you're like a terrorist?
pretty much, keep in my i only intend to do this if CCP validates glitching as a viable way of playing.
aka im only doing it and releasing the information if CCP either stays silent or says its OK |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
1085
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:27:00 -
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Well good luck on the terrorist threats. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1353
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:28:00 -
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Glitching allowed in tournaments, so open the floodgates!
bring on the invisible shotguns, forge guns, vechicles, immortal mercs, infinite sprint, etc. |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1088
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:31:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Well good luck on the terrorist threats.
if its considered a viable form of play, then it wont be terrorism anymore, it will simply be meta gaming.
i will simply roleplay the villain.
its about consequences... if glitching is allowed to continue, then this is the obvious consequence to that decision |
Duran Lex
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
318
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:34:00 -
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You don't sound like a convincing threat when you type things like "theres more at steak" and "invisable".
My 12 year old nephew knows how to spell invisible dude.
Perhaps you should create a team of literate 12 year olds to "glitch" your way into proper grammar.
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Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1088
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:35:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:You don't sound like a convincing threat when you type things like "theres more at steak" and "invisable".
My 12 year old nephew knows how to spell invisible dude.
Perhaps you should create a team of literate 12 year olds to "glitch" your way into proper grammar.
picking on someones disabilities isnt exactly countering an argument or discussing anything is it? |
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
1086
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:36:00 -
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I could go for a steak. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1509
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:38:00 -
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I highly doubt any of these exist. If so yeah do it man. CCP needs to know.
Also attack us on pc doing these stuff. I want us to get as much info about it as possible so we can counter it. We counter aris melee extremely well. It's laughably easy lol. |
Duran Lex
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
318
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:38:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Duran Lex wrote:You don't sound like a convincing threat when you type things like "theres more at steak" and "invisable".
My 12 year old nephew knows how to spell invisible dude.
Perhaps you should create a team of literate 12 year olds to "glitch" your way into proper grammar.
picking on someones disabilities isnt exactly countering an argument or discussing anything is it?
Wait. Poor grammar is a disability now?
From what i read, you didn't start a discussion nor an argument. You made a statement with an ultimatum.
What else can i respond to but the horrible grammar? i mean... come on dude, experaments? |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4335
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:39:00 -
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This could get ugly. |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1089
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:41:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I highly doubt any of these exist. If so yeah do it man. CCP needs to know.
Also attack us on pc doing these stuff. I want us to get as much info about it as possible so we can counter it. We counter aris melee extremely well. It's laughably easy lol.
watch the bug report forums
you have to catch them quick before the threads are deleted, but these are all frequantly reported things people witness.
i verify what i can and replicate what i can solo (some require multiple people to test)
i wouldnt of put it in the list if i hadnt either verified it or could replicate it
hence why the infinate sprint glitch isnt there, i havnt been able to replicate it and you cant witness it directly :P
i havnt had much time to test latily this is just what ive worked on casually |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1089
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:42:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Duran Lex wrote:You don't sound like a convincing threat when you type things like "theres more at steak" and "invisable".
My 12 year old nephew knows how to spell invisible dude.
Perhaps you should create a team of literate 12 year olds to "glitch" your way into proper grammar.
picking on someones disabilities isnt exactly countering an argument or discussing anything is it? Wait. Poor grammar is a disability now? From what i read, you didn't start a discussion nor an argument. You made a statement with an ultimatum. What else can i respond to but the horrible grammar? i mean... come dude, experaments?
i have a wierd inability to express myself in written form, everything i write apears and seems different to me then what people reading it see :p my brain fills in the gaps and reorders it so it makes sence to me, but other people will usually see a mess of gibberish, terrible formatinng, spelling and grammer errors, and they just cant plain follow what im saying.
takes alot of work to make things readable to others.
diagnosed medical condition so yes its a disabiltiy
your pointing out spelling mistakes not grammatical errors... i suggest you learn the difference before you go trying to tear into someone about it.
its also completely irreverent. |
Duran Lex
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
318
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:49:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Duran Lex wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Duran Lex wrote:You don't sound like a convincing threat when you type things like "theres more at steak" and "invisable".
My 12 year old nephew knows how to spell invisible dude.
Perhaps you should create a team of literate 12 year olds to "glitch" your way into proper grammar.
picking on someones disabilities isnt exactly countering an argument or discussing anything is it? Wait. Poor grammar is a disability now? From what i read, you didn't start a discussion nor an argument. You made a statement with an ultimatum. What else can i respond to but the horrible grammar? i mean... come dude, experaments? your pointing out spelling mistakes not grammatical errors... i suggest you learn the difference before you go trying to tear into someone about it. its also completely irreverent.
I'll break it down for you since you apparently need help with these things.
The subject of my post was your spelling mistakes and grammar.
I told you, that you should create a team of literate children.
Then finished saying that these children who are able to spell can help you with your terrible grammar.
Because if you think most of your sentences were properly constructed, you my friend, need to figure out what grammar is. |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1089
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:50:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Duran Lex wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Duran Lex wrote:You don't sound like a convincing threat when you type things like "theres more at steak" and "invisable".
My 12 year old nephew knows how to spell invisible dude.
Perhaps you should create a team of literate 12 year olds to "glitch" your way into proper grammar.
picking on someones disabilities isnt exactly countering an argument or discussing anything is it? Wait. Poor grammar is a disability now? From what i read, you didn't start a discussion nor an argument. You made a statement with an ultimatum. What else can i respond to but the horrible grammar? i mean... come dude, experaments? your pointing out spelling mistakes not grammatical errors... i suggest you learn the difference before you go trying to tear into someone about it. its also completely irreverent. I'll break it down for you since you apparently need help with these things. The subject of my post was your spelling mistakes and grammar. I told you, that you should create a team of literate children. Then finished saying that these children who are able to spell can help you with your terrible grammar. Because if you think most of your sentences were properly constructed, you my friend, need to figure out what grammar is.
are you trying to insunuate that ones ability to express oneself through written or verbal communication somehow effect ones ability to manipulate game mechanics?
also it sounds like your trying to convince me to make you my personal secretary so by all means, go around correcting all my posts for spelling and grammar, im sure the readers will appreciate your actions. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1363
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:53:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I highly doubt any of these exist. If so yeah do it man. CCP needs to know.
Also attack us on pc doing these stuff. I want us to get as much info about it as possible so we can counter it. We counter aris melee extremely well. It's laughably easy lol. "we glitch so much we know how to counter it"
congratulations, how does that change the fact you glitch in official games? LMFAO |
Duran Lex
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
318
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:54:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:
are you trying to insunuate that ones ability to express oneself through written or verbal communication somehow effect ones ability to manipulate game mechanics?
No, my point was that anything you say should be taken with a grain of salt, because you don't provide a case for marginal intelligence.
But as you say, its a medical disability. so on that front, i apologize. May i ask what the name of your disability is? |
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
1086
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:55:00 -
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Better yet; you're like a Bond villain. Sort of. |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1089
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:56:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:
are you trying to insunuate that ones ability to express oneself through written or verbal communication somehow effect ones ability to manipulate game mechanics?
No, my point was that anything you say should be taken with a grain of salt, because you don't provide a case for marginal intelligence. But as you say, its a medical disability. so on that front, i apologize. May i ask what the name of your disability is?
no you may not :P life has taught me never to asnwer that question.
and to counter are you now insinuating that someones ability in spelling and grammar is the measurement of their intelligence? |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1089
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:58:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Better yet; you're like a Bond villain. Sort of.
my old corp refered to me as the mad scientist...
they always pictured me as some sort of pale guy in a lapcoat muttering to himself in a lab with 100s of PS3s tinkering away int he distance as i laught like a lunatic in the background...
play a game with me and you will see what i mean lol |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1511
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:59:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:I highly doubt any of these exist. If so yeah do it man. CCP needs to know.
Also attack us on pc doing these stuff. I want us to get as much info about it as possible so we can counter it. We counter aris melee extremely well. It's laughably easy lol. "we glitch so much we know how to counter it" congratulations, how does that change the fact you glitch in official games? LMFAO It doesn't make sense right? If I was getting glitched on multiple times, you'd think I have an effective counter.
However it's the opposite lol I don't get glitched on but I'm smart enough to know exactly how to counter it. |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1089
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Posted - 2013.09.29 23:01:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:King Kobrah wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:I highly doubt any of these exist. If so yeah do it man. CCP needs to know.
Also attack us on pc doing these stuff. I want us to get as much info about it as possible so we can counter it. We counter aris melee extremely well. It's laughably easy lol. "we glitch so much we know how to counter it" congratulations, how does that change the fact you glitch in official games? LMFAO It doesn't make sense right? If I was getting glitched on multiple times, you'd think I have an effective counter. However it's the opposite lol I don't get glitched on but I'm smart enough to know exactly how to counter it.
Mr marauder is correct, one does not have to use a glitch to understand and counter it.
most of my glitch knowledge comes from watching people use glitches on me rahter then using them myself. its replication experaments that require you use the glitch.
mr marauder... care to tell me how you would counter a guy with an alotec nanohive stuck to his face constantly repping him 50 health a tic?
i means sure, the answer is more bullets... but thats not the point, it gives an advantage you cant counter. |
Duran Lex
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
318
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Posted - 2013.09.29 23:01:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Duran Lex wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:
are you trying to insunuate that ones ability to express oneself through written or verbal communication somehow effect ones ability to manipulate game mechanics?
No, my point was that anything you say should be taken with a grain of salt, because you don't provide a case for marginal intelligence. But as you say, its a medical disability. so on that front, i apologize. May i ask what the name of your disability is? no you may not :P life has taught me never to asnwer that question. and to counter are you now insinuating that someones ability in spelling and grammar is the measurement of their intelligence?
So now I can easily assume you are full of ****, thanks for clarifying that for me.
And yes, being able to spell and form sentences is a form of intelligence. It's a small measurement, true, but a measurement non the less.
One would be hard pressed to accumulate intelligence without the largest source of knowledge in the world :
The written word.
Edit - If you would like to disagree, could you name any scientist from the past 200 years who couldn't read and write? That would put a dent in my supposition. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
1086
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Posted - 2013.09.29 23:03:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:King Kobrah wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:I highly doubt any of these exist. If so yeah do it man. CCP needs to know.
Also attack us on pc doing these stuff. I want us to get as much info about it as possible so we can counter it. We counter aris melee extremely well. It's laughably easy lol. "we glitch so much we know how to counter it" congratulations, how does that change the fact you glitch in official games? LMFAO It doesn't make sense right? If I was getting glitched on multiple times, you'd think I have an effective counter. However it's the opposite lol I don't get glitched on but I'm smart enough to know exactly how to counter it. Mr marauder is correct, one does not have to use a glitch to understand and counter it. most of my glitch knowledge comes from watching people use glitches on me rahter then using them myself. its replication experaments that require you use the glitch. mr marauder... care to tell me how you would counter a guy with an alotec nanohive stuck to his face constantly repping him 50 health a tic? i means sure, the answer is more bullets... but thats not the point, it gives an advantage you cant counter.
Fluxing ain't easy.
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Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1089
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Posted - 2013.09.29 23:05:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:
So now I can easily assume you are full of ****, thanks for clarifying that for me.
And yes, being able to spell and form sentences is a form of intelligence. It's a small measurement, true, but a measurement non the less.
One would be hard pressed to accumulate intelligence without the largest source of knowledge in the world :
The written word.
*sigh* this isnt the point of the thread.
im not entertaining the troll anymore :P |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1763
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Posted - 2013.09.29 23:06:00 -
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unless its held in a common place with every player having their own CCP member watching them then glitching is a no no. tourney like this its open season to cheat and glitch as hard and as best as you can. |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1089
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Posted - 2013.09.29 23:06:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:
Fluxing ain't easy.
much better counter :P
it still provides an indisputed advantage though |
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