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Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
686
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:51:00 -
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The same way infantry is invincible when spawning. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
10
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:53:00 -
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I litteraly just had 2 somas destroyed while on rdv by an invisa forge camper
both on opposite sides of the map |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6302
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:10:00 -
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I support this, its only fair since infantry get this. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
968
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:15:00 -
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Agreed |
Seeth Mensch
Damage Core corp.
The Superpowers
36
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:17:00 -
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What are you talking about; infantry aren't invulnerable when spawning. I have been murdered many, many times before the black even lets up on the screen.
And, yes, I know that if you move your invisibility goes away. |
low genius
the sound of freedom
Renegade Alliance
558
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:18:00 -
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not a chance. |
Meeko Fent
DUST University
Ivy League
1040
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:31:00 -
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Seeth Mensch wrote:What are you talking about; infantry aren't invulnerable when spawning. I have been murdered many, many times before the black even lets up on the screen.
And, yes, I know that if you move your invisibility goes away.
Then don't move.
Vehicles are worth WAY more then your infantry fit, but they get thrown to the dogs whenever they get spawned, but infantry are invisible for 10-15 seconds?
That's fair. |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
687
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:43:00 -
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Yes infantry are invincible for a short time after spawning.(other than 1st spawn) |
Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
90
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:49:00 -
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Maybe make the vehicle protected, but not the RDV? RDV's aren't the easiest things to take down, but it is possible. |
21yrOld Knight
Pradox XVI
156
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:00:00 -
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No if this were to happen then people could spawn vehicles where ever they want. With out worry of their vehicle. |
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The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
236
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:14:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:No if this were to happen then people could spawn vehicles where ever they want. With out worry of their vehicle.
It's only temporary; after there vehicle gets deployed, it will not be invincible. |
taxi bastard
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:24:00 -
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nothing better than killing the transport when its bringing in the goods 
or indeed killing the thing dangling bellow it before it can be used.
part of the risk vs reward side of the game - if its got to be flown in its part of the risk. personally I would like vehicles to be flown out if you want to recall because things are getting hot and now you don't think its a good idea to use it. would be awesome to kill the transport trying to take away the tank.
if you deploy your vehicle at the start of the battle there is basically no risk. play your cards early and you should be ok, get cold feet and there should be a risk that pulling out could cost you. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
971
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:24:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:Maybe make the vehicle protected, but not the RDV? RDV's aren't the easiest things to take down, but it is possible.
Sure, why not. if you down the RDV in flight, you would make the pilot run for the vehicle, giving you time to set up ship and make it burn. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1611
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:31:00 -
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Lol no. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
1762
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Posted - 2013.09.29 22:56:00 -
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Seeth Mensch wrote:What are you talking about; infantry aren't invulnerable when spawning. I have been murdered many, many times before the black even lets up on the screen.
And, yes, I know that if you move your invisibility goes away.
lol... someone who didn't get the memo
your invulnerable for 5seconds after you spawn. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
974
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Posted - 2013.09.30 01:18:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Seeth Mensch wrote:What are you talking about; infantry aren't invulnerable when spawning. I have been murdered many, many times before the black even lets up on the screen.
And, yes, I know that if you move your invisibility goes away. lol... someone who didn't get the memo your invulnerable for 5seconds after you spawn.
the idiot must tries and moves. |
21yrOld Knight
Pradox XVI
156
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Posted - 2013.09.30 02:13:00 -
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The-Errorist wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:No if this were to happen then people could spawn vehicles where ever they want. With out worry of their vehicle. It's only temporary; after there vehicle gets deployed, it will not be invincible.
What I am saying with this is that someone shouldn't be able to easily bring in a tank when they are near a enemy home point. If someone is on a rail gun behind their red line then they can't prevent them selves from being attacked by something stronger then infantry. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
978
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Posted - 2013.09.30 02:22:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:The-Errorist wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:No if this were to happen then people could spawn vehicles where ever they want. With out worry of their vehicle. It's only temporary; after there vehicle gets deployed, it will not be invincible. What I am saying with this is that someone shouldn't be able to easily bring in a tank when they are near a enemy home point. If someone is on a rail gun behind their red line then they can't prevent them selves from being attacked by something stronger then infantry.
As soon as it hits the floor, it's dead. I don't see the problem. |
Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
1042
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Posted - 2013.09.30 05:38:00 -
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Yea, howboutno? There is a marked difference between infantry and vehicles, and many people have made valid points. Furthermore, since when were infantry invulnerable during spawning? I've been killed many a time before I even get to move, or even TRY to move. We spawn INVISIBLE, as in incapable of being seen, but not INVULNERABLE, as in cannot be injured. If someone can link a DEV post to the contrary, then do so by all means. When a vehicle is being called in is a prime time to destroy it by design. If not, then they would just teleport in next to you like they do when you recall them. It is to punish a player for calling something in in a hot zone. If you spawn it in back at base, or behind a building, you won't see it destroyed so handily. |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
693
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Posted - 2013.09.30 06:24:00 -
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Unless you start moving or shooting your invincible for 5 secs after spawning. Also you can kill the person while they wait for the vehicle.
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
1770
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Posted - 2013.09.30 06:27:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:Unless you start moving or shooting your invincible for 5 secs after spawning. Also you can kill the person while they wait for the vehicle.
even if your moving or shooting your still invincible.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2410
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Posted - 2013.09.30 07:41:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:The same way infantry is invincible when spawning.
Are infantry invincible?
In anycase I say no, even though I tank, I feel like we should have to be careful where we call in our assets. |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
338
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:14:00 -
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When you spawn you are having to wait for the display to load up during which you are completely defenseless. As you are already spawned when calling in a vehicle, you are theoretically able to defend yourself and your vehicle. It sounds as if your problem is forge snipers which is your responsibility to look out for. True, the forge sniper can be outside of your render range and that is a very serious problem but it shouldn't be handled by introducing an abuseable mechanic. |
Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
592
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:59:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Yea, howboutno? There is a marked difference between infantry and vehicles, and many people have made valid points. Furthermore, since when were infantry invulnerable during spawning? I've been killed many a time before I even get to move, or even TRY to move. We spawn INVISIBLE, as in incapable of being seen, but not INVULNERABLE, as in cannot be injured. If someone can link a DEV post to the contrary, then do so by all means. When a vehicle is being called in is a prime time to destroy it by design. If not, then they would just teleport in next to you like they do when you recall them. It is to punish a player for calling something in in a hot zone. If you spawn it in back at base, or behind a building, you won't see it destroyed so handily.
I've died so many times because infantry are invulnerable until after few seconds of moving or until they start shooting. I usually waste half a clip shooting at someone who just became visible, and my shots would only start registering when he starts shooting me back. But of course, you couldn't kill much with just half a clip before. |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
378
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:24:00 -
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i dont remember infantry ever being invincible when spawning in..
the other day i just managed to spawn kill a player with my assault forge gun as he spawned in on an uplink...
was also very funny.. |
General Erick
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
142
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:35:00 -
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Nothing is more satisfying than killing someone's tank before it even hits the dirt. |
Vin Mora
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
163
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:01:00 -
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I vote no for this because some times that is the only time a tank is truly killable.
With all of the complaining that tankers do on this forums, I have seen several tanks across dozens of games be nigh impossible to kill (mostly armor tanks with their broken reppers) when on the field. True, they play smart and have good ground support, but no tank should survive 2+ ADV or higher Swarms and 2+ Forge guns hitting them consecutively.
I would agree with this, if hardeners were removed or nerfed, or if AV weapons had a penetration stat that cut through hardeners.
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GVGMODE
WorstPlayersEver
59
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:21:00 -
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NO, the feeling you get when you destroy the RDV and the ,vehicle being deployed is like Black Hawk Down |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
694
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:28:00 -
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Vin Mora wrote:I vote no for this because some times that is the only time a tank is truly killable.
With all of the complaining that tankers do on this forums, I have seen several tanks across dozens of games be nigh impossible to kill (mostly armor tanks with their broken reppers) when on the field. True, they play smart and have good ground support, but no tank should survive 2+ ADV or higher Swarms and 2+ Forge guns hitting them consecutively.
I would agree with this, if hardeners were removed or nerfed, or if AV weapons had a penetration stat that cut through hardeners.
Tanks aren't supposed to be soloed in any instance. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1090
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:32:00 -
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As a tanker I say no . Its not my fault if redberys call down a hav right in plain viev of me why should it be invinsible if you are stupid ebough to call any valuable vehicle down whare the.enimy can see it you deserve to loose it. |
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