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Matticus Monk
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:20:00 -
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AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote:TL;DR: CCP needs to throw scouts a bone and quick because the game is becoming (has already become?) joyless and trite.
Amen brother. I see you on the scout channel a lot so I know you must put a reasonable amount of game-time in. I feel the same way. I have experimented with a variety of fits and the only ones that seem to do well are the ones that tank armor/shield and that I try to play as a flanker/assault. Why the hell not just put a kin/cat on an assault suit - I could be done that with 2-3M SP invested and a militia AR instead of 18M SP.....
*facepalm*
I feel stupid for being a scout. Every day. All day. Doesn't matter if I'm running dampeners in my lows, or range extenders, or armor reppers, or stamina mods or kin/cats.... precision in the high... it's all crap compared to shield/armor and a nanohive or active scanner.
"Hey, here I am - I'm not a scout, I'm a crappy assault that decided to use a light frame suit!"
Stealth is fine when it works.... so rare. I mean sure it's easy to stay hidden if you DON'T want to hack objectives, go for kills, counter hack, drop uplinks in USEFUL places or basically do anything useful for your team. Sure it's easy to stack range mods and see all these great opponents that you CAN'T KILL.
It's AWESOME to run your ass off and get your one uplink down and just get mowed down by an AR from 90m away.
Seriously, i'll get a good game - maybe 1 of 20 and I'll be like "sure, it's hard mode but I can make it work" that would usually happen on a Tuesday afternoon then wednesday rolls around, the cap is reset and I get ******* STOMPED repeatedly regardless of what tactics I use.
The only thing that works is running in a squad as a tanked flank attacker.....
At this point I just play a few games as scout and switch to my Logi Alt, use a standard Gallente Logi suit and roll around w/ an AR and mow down people, safe and secure in my 600 HP suit which only costs 15k.
Oh yeah - and a big **** YOU to every one who has ever mowed me down with an duvolle AR in their medium frame suit. Jeeze, challenge yourself when you see a scout you *****. At least use your damn sidearm or your fist if you're Mr. 1000 HP logi bad-ass..... |
Matticus Monk
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:51:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Throw them another bone? If you play your scout correctly (hint: it does not involve running up on AR users in a straight line) then these ******* are so ******* annoying. You can't hit them. THey run around, they jump around, you can't keep track. You're supposed to tank by not getting hit.
Dude... some people make us look good. There are a few that make it work. Like gods on the battlefield, they are our brothers in our shining Gallente form fitting armor, or Mad Max Minmatar badassness.
And many times those that do this can't do it consistently.... for every time it annoys someone like you and you think we are "OK as is" and "don't need another bone", you don't see the 100 times we die because someone we didn't see mowed us down, or our target turned around just a BIT too early....
If you were a scout you would know. But you're not (I take it) so your opinion..... well, eh. You know (it doesn't mean ****).
If it makes you feel better if I see you on the field, I'm sure you'll be able to kill me way more than I kill you. |
Matticus Monk
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Posted - 2013.09.29 07:14:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:calvin b wrote:I like to run a Dren scout or the Dragonfly. I think its fun, do not take the role to serious. I know I am like glass, but I am fast as hell. So I play my own way, I counter hack and wait for someone to hack an objective and then kill them. Its an easy 50 points and if you time it just right you can get the counter hack as well. Also uplinks cant stress this enough. Its nice that you can play an almost free scout but real scouts are paying 150k isk for the same amount of survivability. Thats the problem.
Pretty much hits the nail on the head.
I have to say that I've completely given up running proto suits. They are just not worth the cost, especially running them on a Wednesday or Thursday which is when I'm getting stomped the most. I don't want to burn through 700k ISK a game.... So, running a standard or advanced I still have what feels like the same amount of survivability (none) but at least I'm making money.
That is a horrible situation right there. The proper response for a reasonably high SP specialist, who's been playing the same role for 9 months should not be to give up and only use their cheapest crap because they can't find a way to stay alive (other than hiding in the redline or never engaging enemies).
Maybe I'm just bad and need to "gg", but I really doubt it. And I'm not into running my scout with 3 armor plates and a repper and sheild extender, even though this is the only fit I've found I can do decent with. I mean that's fine and people do good with that, but I want to run my scout... do things my way, which involves using those other cool scout modules.
EDIT: all that being said I have to say I was frying some serious medium frames yesterday morning with my laser. But, what the hell - using the laser rifle on a scout suit is about as much "anti" scout as you can get - I mean, I was cheaping out here, not being a scout. Nothing says "here I am" like a laser.... my only deaths were from feedback damage. Taste hot Amarrian justice, you clunky medium frame AR pansies. You're gonna fuckin' burn and you're gonna like it. |
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