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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
38
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Posted - 2013.09.27 04:41:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:No respecs!!!!!....unless they drastically change the game (I'm not talking like reduce splash radius by .5m and stuff) the whole vehicle rebalance will have respec, adding in new skills..... |
forteXVI
89th IMMORTAL ORDER
97
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Posted - 2013.09.27 08:25:00 -
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X10 SP weekend!!! XD |
Fristname Family name
Team Bitch-Slap
6
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Posted - 2013.09.27 11:44:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:I'll take the Respec thank you VERY much. If theirs a respec half the players will leave or everybody will go for the same wepons/vehicals I say just make a nother character. The respec is a horible idea. |
Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
69
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Posted - 2013.09.27 11:50:00 -
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No respecs, and I think triple SP weeks are a bit much to be honest. Really screws you over if you're away that week. A double SP week every month or two is okay. |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
832
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Posted - 2013.09.27 12:32:00 -
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Xaviah Reaper wrote:The blow of 1.5 being delayed just sucks, so i propose an SP boost of some sort to take away our disappointment
Saying we all want these things is truly misleading. A small portion of the dust community wants respecs, the rest of us know that this would be game breaking and would invailidate one of the major mechanics of the game (permanence of your decisions). Anyone who wants a respec clearly fails to understand that no skill in this game is totally worthless and that each skill will become much more usefull as items are added to the game and you fill in your skill tree more fully. Stop your QQing, it really annoys the majority of us.
A 3x sp event wouldn't be bad but would simply boost the vets farther ahead of the new players once again decreasing your ability to compete farther. A 20 million sp player will make a point of capping out every week regardless of getting tripple sp or not. Events like this simply grow the gap between new players and vets more. |
CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:21:00 -
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Xaviah Reaper wrote:The blow of 1.5 being delayed just sucks, so i propose an SP boost of some sort to take away our disappointment
Sorry Xaviah, but as several players have already expressed here, PLEASE be careful with "All of us" claims. It's not really fair (especially when you put it right up in the thread's title), not really social, and to some folks here of certain nationalities, it can be downright against their political freedom. Certain countries like the US, and I suspect Iceland too, put a lot of value in honoring individual opinion... to the point that no one speaks for us without us first giving official permission for someone to... So PLEASE... (everybody?), let's go easy.
I for one admired the respec opportunity that was given to us once or twice earlier. This game, like EVE, seems to be built on the stern reality of "you are responsible for every path you wrongly trust and every ISK you poorly invest (kind of like life)---no do-overs, only learned lessons". So I thought it VERY charitable for them to give respecs the first time.
But to give a respec AGAIN (no matter what pitch we try to throw to make CCP think the "owe" it to us), may start to make the rest of us who -salvaged what we could from our mistakes, -saddled up and got out there to earn more SP, and -finally acheived our goals by enduring the extra time and SP grind ...feel sort of DIS-respec'ted.
And their argument might be right: more "do-overs via respec" is unfair to those who overcame just by following the game's rules. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1024
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:25:00 -
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This game is boring me, since gtav game out. It makes rage quitting so much easier. If I lose a tank, I'll usually just turn off Dust, which makes me mad, and play gtav which makes me happy. I'm not feeling a good drive to play more than one or two games a night, compared to me usual 10-20 |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1024
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:28:00 -
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I want a respec because tanks suck and the callogi MD is awesome. I want better callogi MD. thanksies o7 |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
266
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:41:00 -
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Fk it, let's have a triple sp week, respec and guaranteed officer salvage to go with it lol |
Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
499
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:47:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:You dont speak for me and a large part of this community when you ask for resoecs. He is saying that people either want repsecs or triple SP. Do you not want triple SP? |
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
27
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:04:00 -
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GuyBelowMeSuxs wrote:Atiim wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Respecs break the whole permanence of the skill system.
Which is actually, the whole point of the skill system.
MAGs respecs are unrelated, as those were perks, not skills in the way we have them.
That, and we have infinite SP. Yeah what if you skilled into a weapon, spent 1mil s, and it way drastically changed to the point where said weapon became unusable, wouldn't you want a respec? But no because you didn't w work for your sp If you put a mil. Sp on a gun . Then that's what you picked now you get to use it . You made the choice pick that gun . Now live with it Yes well I have what's called a life. And yes I work very hard for my sp (7,103,245) But what I fail to see is how respecs would break the game, considering that you would just buy the same skills again anyway. And yes I was a LR user before the nerf and even though they are pretty good again it still doesn't make up for the fact that for about 3 Months that was 1.5 mil sp wasted. But I see that you have the time to waste sp without thinking "Oh it's good now but what about later". That's why I skilled into ARs first. And we all know how CCP can be with that nerfhammer sometimes. I don't have time to grind infinite amounts of SP when something becomes useless (like my complex ferroscale plates). |
Tebu Gan
CrimeWave Syndicate
104
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:25:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:You don't speak for me and a large part of this community when you ask for respecs.
There fixed
A respec should be offered at some point. I mean people act like it is easy grinding out SP, but for a casual gamer like me it is not. 7.5 mi SP took me 4.5 months to obtain.
4.5 months is enough for me to want to play something else, so I need to grind another 4.5 months to get decent in dropsuits. That just is not fun for me.
I mean really, this game is very much unfinished, very unbalanced, blah blah blah. I mean I just don't get it, I can understand how you want the choices you make matter, it makes it meaningful. But some people are just crazy over the idea that no shouldn't have speced into something that got nerfed because it was Overpowered. If anyone is at fault, it is the developers, not those who chose to go with the best build at the time (caldari logis). Or massdrivers ect.
Live with your choice type of people. Just don't get that either. Why, this is a game, still in beta, with much more to come(hopefully). I'm cool with living with my choice, if all options are available to me. And I had all the information on how to make a good choice.
It seems to me CCP is very much catering to a very specific playerbase. I'm sorry but to have staying power, this game needs something like a respec at some point. Not everyone has 10 to 15+ million sp and have played since beta. Some don't spend hours of their day grinding out that SP to be halfway viable. Live with your choice, yet choice is something in very short supply.
There is such potential here, with this game. CCP needs to open up more. I mean this is a FPS gameplay wise. Not they huge open universe that is EVE. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
498
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:50:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:This game is boring me, since gtav game out. It makes rage quitting so much easier. If I lose a tank, I'll usually just turn off Dust, which makes me mad, and play gtav which makes me happy. I'm not feeling a good drive to play more than one or two games a night, compared to me usual 10-20
i'd love it if all the tankers who rage quit would go play gta5 |
Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San EoN.
58
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Posted - 2013.09.27 17:01:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Respecs are for people who are to lazy to work for what they want.
or its for people who worked super freaking hard for something that ended up being total bs.. i'm a DS pilot... i mean c'mon ... |
Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San EoN.
58
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Posted - 2013.09.27 17:05:00 -
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Would ANYBODY like to actually take recognition of the word " OR " in my title? jesus christ learn to read before you hate on me :P everybody here would like triple sp week, no? if you dont, you're wierd |
forteXVI
89th IMMORTAL ORDER
97
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Posted - 2013.09.27 19:13:00 -
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Xaviah Reaper wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Respecs are for people who are to lazy to work for what they want. or its for people who worked super freaking hard for something that ended up being total bs.. i'm a DS pilot... i mean c'mon ... i'd use all 10 mill SP and put it into maxing out my dropship and maxing out an infantry suit(pilot suit) :P
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4313
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Posted - 2013.09.27 20:02:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Respecs break the whole permanence of the skill system.
Which is actually, the whole point of the skill system.
MAGs respecs are unrelated, as those were perks, not skills in the way we have them.
That, and we have infinite SP. Yeah what if you skilled into a weapon, spent 1mil s, and it way drastically changed to the point where said weapon became unusable, wouldn't you want a respec? But no because you didn't work for your sp
Try being on my shoes for one week playing with nothing but the Nova Knives and a scout suit with so many disadvantages back in the Codex build. Even today the nova knives are still underpowered (as in it's difficult to slash a moving target) and the scout suits still feel handicapped like hell with all the aim-assist going on. Did I ask for a respec then and now? No. |
Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San EoN.
59
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Posted - 2013.09.27 20:57:00 -
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okay let me put it another way. What if you spent 10m SP on a Tank to make it the most badass tank in the game, then all of a sudden that tank turned into a f*cking banana boat ... would you just "get used to it" xD ? or would you raise hell and want a refund?
http://minivannews.com/files/2010/06/banana-boat-edited.jpg
picture riding that into dust 514... yeah ... |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1367
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Posted - 2013.09.28 21:36:00 -
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Fristname Family name wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:I'll take the Respec thank you VERY much. If theirs a respec half the players will leave or everybody will go for the same wepons/vehicals I say just make a nother character. The respec is a horible idea.
Ok smarta**.
Lets imagine tomorrow CCP gives EVERYBODY a respec. Tell me the suits and weapons ''EVERYBODY'' will choose.
Tell me the ''vehicals'' every pilot/driver will use.
c'mon. make my day. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
941
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Posted - 2013.09.28 21:43:00 -
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Stevez WingYip wrote:While I believe this is a great idea, they have already stated that they are not going to do any more respecs which I would have agreed with. But with the game going downhill and another patch with minor content, I think they should do something like this. Removing the 2 MAIN features of the patch people were excited about (even that would not have been enough) is just crazy and while I know there are problems, the patience of so many people is running out and that puts the entire game in trouble.
The pilots can wait. We've been nerfed, and has been waiting for...... a year and 6 months? So yea, we can wait. I'd rather them do it right, then celebrate by melting the scrubs to oblivion.
As for the scrubs, you guys got several kinds of weapons, but most of you just use the Plasma Rifle. Use them. Besides, if you don't like the Burst or breach one, its not like you'll like the new guns...... |
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Shattered Mirage
native warlords
326
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Posted - 2013.09.28 22:17:00 -
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low genius wrote:Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:As I've said many times before, respecs should only be given to specific skills when new content comes out. For example, when the Gallente, Minmitar and Caldari heavy suits come out, the Amarr heavy skills should get a respec. not even then. only when a skilltree is removed or modified.
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Quote: when a skilltree is removed or modified.
Quote:Gallente, Minmitar and Caldari heavy suits
Don't you think that counts as a modification to the skill tree? |
Vesago Ghostcore
Rejected Clones
32
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Posted - 2013.09.28 22:51:00 -
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How about instead of a full respec, they let everyone sell back a million SP worth of skills? Would that make everyone happy?
FYI, I could care less about respec's... I think learning new things is good for retaining interest in the game. For me at least. |
emm kay
Pradox XVI
7
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Posted - 2013.09.28 22:58:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote: Yeah what if you skilled into a weapon, spent 1mil s, and it way drastically changed to the point where said weapon became unusable, wouldn't you want a respec? But no because you didn't work for your sp
What weapon has been nerfed so bad that it became completely useless?
Not the flay. Not the Tac. Not the HMG.
What weapon has been totally nerfed into uselessness?
The LR? Well, obviously you would be happy now that you didn't move the SP cause its pretty good as of current.
Explain which weapon has been nerfed into the ground?[/quote]
As a laser riflist I disagree. the ELM 7 can't do **** other than look good. my K/D for my ELM 7 C/1 layout is 1/10.
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Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San EoN.
64
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Posted - 2013.09.29 02:33:00 -
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i messed up quotations ^_^ look down a post |
Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San EoN.
64
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Posted - 2013.09.29 02:34:00 -
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The dropship is pretty useless ... |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
49
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:30:00 -
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Xaviah Reaper wrote:The dropship is pretty useless ... my shield boosting skill is useless..... |
GVGMODE
WorstPlayersEver
47
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Posted - 2013.09.29 05:33:00 -
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I want a respec so I do not have to play the same thing for months and months and months.
It gets boring after a while. |
Tebu Gan
CrimeWave Syndicate
108
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Posted - 2013.09.29 14:21:00 -
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GVGMODE wrote:I want a respec so I do not have to play the same thing for months and months and months.
It gets boring after a while.
Exactly, I mean COD just for an example. I was at level 80 or whatever, with every gun and perk unlocked. Know what I do, start from scratch. Not because of some icon I unlock, but doing the same **** over and over get's very very boring. And with this game, I have to do that same old boring ****, over, and over, and over. Just to play something new.
The grind is getting really old, really fast. |
GVGMODE
WorstPlayersEver
55
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Posted - 2013.09.29 23:02:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:GVGMODE wrote:I want a respec so I do not have to play the same thing for months and months and months.
It gets boring after a while. Exactly, I mean COD just for an example. I was at level 80 or whatever, with every gun and perk unlocked. Know what I do, start from scratch. Not because of some icon I unlock, but doing the same **** over and over get's very very boring. And with this game, I have to do that same old boring ****, over, and over, and over. Just to play something new. The grind is getting really old, really fast.
The usual response is... if you want to change you have to grind 2 to 3 months worth of SP to do so. LOL |
GVGMODE
WorstPlayersEver
55
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Posted - 2013.09.29 23:20:00 -
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Respec or nothing!
If we get a respect I would love to use it on only one vehicle assuming we get proto level tanks. |
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