Out of the 245 districts, roughly 30 districts were attacked today. That's 12% of the districts going under attack.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/districts/Molden_Heath

I'm noticing that many of these corporations that are holding full planets never see an attack to their planets and districts. What's up with this picture? Did everyone give up?

TeamPlayers' nonsensical garbage Planet Fight Club is a bust. One district was attacked today! Two were attacked yesterday. None were attacked the day before. The corporations on that planet just sit on their districts without even fighting each other... That's one heck of a fight club I'm seeing... a whole lot of milking and very little fighting!

It would seem to me that no one cares about taking districts anymore. Numbers don't lie. It doesn't seem worth while to even start an attack which is how I'm interpreting the very low numbers of attacks daily. Roughly 88% of the districts are just sitting there doing nothing. Is this what was intended by CCP with the glorious Planetary Conquest?

With roughly 12% of the districts (10-15% fluctuating daily - That's less than 45 out of 245 districts being attacked daily) how is this planetary conquest a success? Even with the large metagaming-spam by TeamPlayers working really hard to sustain their glorious Milk-Club on Oedelouf doing absolutely nothing, I still see a failure on the part of CCP to inspire a reason to fight.

Thoughts, notions, comments, ideas?

PC doesn't affect me at all. I need a reason to care.

EVE sounds like this also.

EVE never seems to have big shifts of power and no really big numbers of large fights.

Hey! Maybe that is the magic link between DUST and EVE everyone has been looking for?

I'm serious. Who would hire us? Would it be enough to keep 3,000 people busy?


Munch

Like bamm and hooker said on their video for the eve link, planetary conquest needs to beifit alliances, massively!
There is not enough of a reason for it at the moment, planetary conquest should be something eve allainces want tonhire dust mercs for.

Dust mercs should have an uphill struggle to own land themselves. And the bonuses so rewarding it should be hotly contested.
Eve allainces will pay dust mercs, or recruit them to the allaince in hopes of getting a spot of land.

Then make owning connecting territories worth even more, youll get entire planets being contested for.

I am all for making rewards better for those groups who can pull off large logistical feats like multi corp alliances. But your 'uphill stuggle' theory is backwards thinking. What motivates the little guy? Certainly not being player #1437 in a alliance where he will rarely get the chance to even participate in a PC battle.

Diversity is the key (especially with such a small player base as this game). Players need a chance to challenge themselves and grow on their own. The only way to do that is provide them meaningful competition in smaller, more manageable chunks. And THAT means opening up PC to smaller groups through 8v8 PC Battles on smaller districts providing reduced payouts and rewards.

In a game that is experiencing so many growing pains, exclusion is not the answer. There is a 10 year plan to layer on more complexity and give large corporations and alliances something to strive for. Crawl, Walk, Run. Give the little guy a chance to get big. Then PC will be active again.

In eve numbers matter in Dust514 you top 16 is all u need that's why PC is a bust tbh if they up the match count to 64 players dust would properly become a lot more fun as teamwork overrides all stars

or we could just, limit the ammount of districts any single corp or alliance can hold

I think every remaining player should get a district.

Heck, if all we're going to do is farm, may as well share.

Out of the 245 districts, roughly 30 districts were attacked today. That's 12% of the districts going under attack.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/districts/Molden_Heath

I'm noticing that many of these corporations that are holding full planets never see an attack to their planets and districts. What's up with this picture? Did everyone give up?

TeamPlayers' nonsensical garbage Planet Fight Club is a bust. One district was attacked today! Two were attacked yesterday. None were attacked the day before. The corporations on that planet just sit on their districts without even fighting each other... That's one heck of a fight club I'm seeing... a whole lot of milking and very little fighting!

It would seem to me that no one cares about taking districts anymore. Numbers don't lie. It doesn't seem worth while to even start an attack which is how I'm interpreting the very low numbers of attacks daily. Roughly 88% of the districts are just sitting there doing nothing. Is this what was intended by CCP with the glorious Planetary Conquest?

With roughly 12% of the districts (10-15% fluctuating daily - That's less than 45 out of 245 districts being attacked daily) how is this planetary conquest a success? Even with the large metagaming-spam by TeamPlayers working really hard to sustain their glorious Milk-Club on Oedelouf doing absolutely nothing, I still see a failure on the part of CCP to inspire a reason to fight.

Thoughts, notions, comments, ideas?

Don't agree that CCP should do something to promote fights. While it's a bit hypocritical of TP and other big holders of Molden Heath wrt to fight club activity, still, the initiative should come from the players if they want to change the current stale state of affairs .

or we could just, limit the ammount of districts any single corp or alliance can hold

PC doesn't affect me at all. I need a reason to care.

it could use more competition. someone start a war.

PC doesn't affect me at all. I need a reason to care.

I've said it a million times on here, they need to drive the fighting by lowering and raising the cost of clone packs on a week to week basis.

That goes for the sale of excess clones as well.

Eve has it's own economy. If every industrial player/corp in Eve started make the exact same thing and nobody was buying any of it the prices would drop and/or the product would stop being produced.

One of the leading land holders in MH right now purchased a vast majority of their planets. They will sit on them and they will farm and farm and farm. Even if someone decided to attack they will run out of ISK before they knock a dent in those holdings.

It would be a wiser investment to simply inquire about purchasing a district or 10 from someone.

The system is 100% completely broken. CCP is busy with other stuff, but in the meantime the Dust ISK economy is being completely screwed up.

I think they should announce that 30 days from now that PC will no longer generate any ISK and the system will be converted to the corp battle system. No land will change hands but the MH districts will be the place that the corp battles take place.

EVE sounds like this also.

EVE never seems to have big shifts of power and no really big numbers of large fights.

it could use more competition. someone start a war.

In eve numbers matter in Dust514 you top 16 is all u need that's why PC is a bust tbh if they up the match count to 64 players dust would properly become a lot more fun as teamwork overrides all stars

I've said it a million times on here, they need to drive the fighting by lowering and raising the cost of clone packs on a week to week basis.

That goes for the sale of excess clones as well.

I've been hoping to see some development in the direction of separating clone generation from ISK generation that has been mentioned many times. If anything, holding a district should COST money to maintain and PVE (or something else) should be required within your districts to farm ISK from the low levels that filters up.

The clone generation should only be used to attack districts with, or to sell on the open market to players. Remove Genolution from the equation at this point... unless an OTEC thing is created of course, no one likes monopolies.

This.

I was looking forward to holding off hordes of PRO when PC first started.

^that sounds pretty cool, it's weird that this would come in an Eve patch newsletter though. I've heard ZERO from Dust devs about any drastic PC changes.

That sounds six months to a year type stuff.

Out of the 245 districts, roughly 30 districts were attacked today. That's 12% of the districts going under attack.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/districts/Molden_Heath

I'm noticing that many of these corporations that are holding full planets never see an attack to their planets and districts. What's up with this picture? Did everyone give up?

TeamPlayers' nonsensical garbage Planet Fight Club is a bust. One district was attacked today! Two were attacked yesterday. None were attacked the day before. The corporations on that planet just sit on their districts without even fighting each other... That's one heck of a fight club I'm seeing... a whole lot of milking and very little fighting!

It would seem to me that no one cares about taking districts anymore. Numbers don't lie. It doesn't seem worth while to even start an attack which is how I'm interpreting the very low numbers of attacks daily. Roughly 88% of the districts are just sitting there doing nothing. Is this what was intended by CCP with the glorious Planetary Conquest?

With roughly 12% of the districts (10-15% fluctuating daily - That's less than 45 out of 245 districts being attacked daily) how is this planetary conquest a success? Even with the large metagaming-spam by TeamPlayers working really hard to sustain their glorious Milk-Club on Oedelouf doing absolutely nothing, I still see a failure on the part of CCP to inspire a reason to fight.

Thoughts, notions, comments, ideas?

How about 1024v1024?
Its possible on the maps!


But not the performance . . . . Yet

I wish clone packs came with more than 120 clones. It can be a close game but close games with clone packs usually end up being cloned out. Makes it tougher for new competition to enter pc.

Out of the 245 districts, roughly 30 districts were attacked today. That's 12% of the districts going under attack.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/districts/Molden_Heath

I'm noticing that many of these corporations that are holding full planets never see an attack to their planets and districts. What's up with this picture? Did everyone give up?

TeamPlayers' nonsensical garbage Planet Fight Club is a bust. One district was attacked today! Two were attacked yesterday. None were attacked the day before. The corporations on that planet just sit on their districts without even fighting each other... That's one heck of a fight club I'm seeing... a whole lot of milking and very little fighting!

It would seem to me that no one cares about taking districts anymore. Numbers don't lie. It doesn't seem worth while to even start an attack which is how I'm interpreting the very low numbers of attacks daily. Roughly 88% of the districts are just sitting there doing nothing. Is this what was intended by CCP with the glorious Planetary Conquest?

With roughly 12% of the districts (10-15% fluctuating daily - That's less than 45 out of 245 districts being attacked daily) how is this planetary conquest a success? Even with the large metagaming-spam by TeamPlayers working really hard to sustain their glorious Milk-Club on Oedelouf doing absolutely nothing, I still see a failure on the part of CCP to inspire a reason to fight.

Thoughts, notions, comments, ideas?

Maybe if all the best corps weren't in EoN or PD, it would be alot more interesting. Those are the two best alliances in the game, and there is not much competition.

But, there are a select few very good corps that aren't in an alliance at all.
These come to mind:
Pro Hic Immortalis
ZionTCD
ANONYMOUS
Ancient Exiles

EVE sounds like this also.

EVE never seems to have big shifts of power and no really big numbers of large fights.

Hey! Maybe that is the magic link between DUST and EVE everyone has been looking for?

I'm serious. Who would hire us? Would it be enough to keep 3,000 people busy?


Munch

Eve-related good news from the pre-patch newsletter: http://www.eveonline.com/rubicon

"Control Your Destiny

Guerilla-style Warfare Support - Tactics to chip away at the behemoths have surfaced, allowing small fleets of mercenaries, saboteurs and troublemakers to become cause for concern for even the most reinforced of alliance strongholds."

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This has been 10 years coming in EVE. If they can have it, we can have it.

What i'd like to see in PC in DUST is that every PC battle contract is actually comprised of a set of sub-contracts, some big, some small, etc., so that taking a district might mean 2 big(team) contracts, 2-3 medium(6v6) contracts and 3-4 small(3v3) contracts.

Contracts can be transferred or sold or auctioned or put up for bid or filled in-house, ofc.

These contracts could have a loose but not mandatory staging order. Success/failure in the early stages would affect bonuses, infrastucture, timers etc. in the later stages.

I always thought the first mission should be a small(3 merc) mission for scouts, the "Covertly install tacnet infrastructure mission". Degree of success here would determine the extent to which the attackers had tacnet. Would be cool if there was an optional EVE component hacking orbital relays and commsats also - another way in which EVE support could make a difference.

it could use more competition. someone start a war.

I said exactly this 2 months ago! And NO ONE believed me. THERE IS NO MORE COMPETITION, here's to you Cookiestein for not believing Red and I.

As much as this pains me to say this, player base numbers has a huge impact on the current state of PC.

With a large portion of the dedicated player base being in the one controlling alliance and not enough player base to form a much larger or organized alliance to war with them you get what we have now.

PC doesn't affect me at all. I need a reason to care.