Apparently you don't understand the Fitting System. The core idea behind the system is that people can play how they like. And you want to reward players for using the "correct" suit?

Some of these would be effected after changing fittings no?

For instance, Lets say, I spawn in my squishy scout, run in fast hack a point, drop an uplink.

Then I switch out to a logi fit, drop a couple Hives, and fight the fist few that trickle in.

Then I switch to a Heavy for more defensive stopping power.

How would the uplinks and hives be treated after switching "roles"

This would also go a long way towards having people play the roles that CCP intends for suits. Which would reduce the number of nerfs for things.

I think DUST would be helped more by not having any extra benefits by running into narrow classes and builds. Players should be free to experiment without risk of losing WP (because of not obtaining some bonus).

Many suits already have fitting bonuses (such as Heat build up reduction on Amarr Assault) which gives a benefit to using certain items, but in no way punishes players for not using it.

By increasing WP gain for certain specs, you in effect punish every other suit who tries to perform a non-standard battle field role, even if they are competent at it.

Forcing narrow focus of a suit into a class defies the core concept of suit fitting, that you can adapt a suit to various combat scenarios. DUST should be working on making there be as many valid fitting possibilities as the can, so that players can do all sorts of unusual things, such as heavy snipers (I'd be more creative, but it's early), that isn't possible in other games. Don't diminish the ability for players to be creative by punishing WP gains on "non-class" actions.

..."Many suits already have fitting bonuses (such as Heat build up reduction on Amarr Assault) which gives a benefit to using certain items, but in no way punishes players for not using it. "...

You make it sound like playing a slayer logi is wrong.

your stats rule out logi aver which is better than aver/assault assault suits need to stop caring about vehilces its logistics department. the role of guardian consists of logi av and tactical vehicle support( transporters scanners and such)

when i used to run ina a balanced tank av squad i would run heal as equally as av..a swarmer logi can do things that a forge gunner just cant ina balanced dust it requires both to effectively rampage. light av is supposed to naturally compliment heavy av and as heavy av is on HEAVY suits it only makes sense that light av be on LOGI'S as logi's naturally compliment heavies.

I think this is an awful Idea as a scout

looks like we would once again get the short end of the stick.

Im sorry but, it does penilise, it penilises players who try to play outside the box instead of playing the same old boring **** like everyone else. This is why I didnt get into any ****** MMO's like WoW were EVERYONE was the same, its boring and its ****.

WP's should be awarded for what you DO, not what you do it WITH.

Certain suits should be better at certain actions and that is the reason to chose them, but if you manage to do the same action as someone in another suit you should get the same reward.

Anything else is job discrimination.

I have literally never experienced this game boiling down to "how do you farm WP in the greatest way?". I'm always trying to win. I don't play the game for that silly number at the end of the match. I've been running active scanners since 1.2, despite that fact that omgwtfbbq I could replace it with an uplink and get more WP. I think the majority of the playerbase approaches the game in this way as well, otherwise you'd see everyone in a pub spamming uplinks. I usually only see about 4-6 uplinks on the field at any given time in an average pub match.

Giving every class EXCEPT logis a +10 WP bonus for kill assists is patently ridiculous. I play an Amarr Logi, which is designed to be a combat-focused logi suit, with decent base EHP and a sidearm slot. It's meant to be the Assault/Logi hybrid, doing logibro things while also being competent in a firefight and assisting the assaults. Don't give me less WP for doing the same work as anyone else.

The bonuses to Heavy AV and anti-building WPs are unfair to demolitions experts (logis running around with 2 sets of REs) and SL/AV grenade users.

On the subject of uber-equipment-WP-farming Logis, have you actually tried fitting a logi? You can't have a good rack of WP-generating equipment AND good tank AND a good weapon all at once. Generally you have to pick two out those three, and that's balanced in comparison to assaults already: they have good tank, a good weapon, and one equip slot. Also, the lowered speed and shield recharge rate is a non-trivial difference. I could easily run Cal Assault with R/9 uplinks and farm plenty of WP, if that was what I wanted.

Scout and heavies are a whole different issue, but that's not going to be solved by applying such an intensive pigeonholing system. There are basic suit balance problems there, and only after those are fixed can we think about how to properly reward those roles.

On the subject of 'classism', your system will unduly reward squads of a very specific composition and using very weird tactics- you need 1 AV heavy to cash in on those bonuses, you need someone to be a scout with uplinks, and you need to make sure your logi doesn't ever, god forbid, get a kill that your assaults could have had. Any other strategy will net your squad far less WP, and therefore fewer orbitals, which may lose you a match. Dust will never have "perfectly fair" WP distribution, but at least the current system is not restrictive by frame type.

Conceptually, getting a bonus for doing things that fit the role your suite is for is brilliant. I don't know if you'll ever get such a thing past the people who would be penalized without a big cry fest though.

Nobody wants anything to change if it doesn't help them and their fit.

Beren, good idea in concept the tough part is figuring a way to execute it that won't be too much of a shaping mechanism.

How about a variation on this...
At the battlefinder or prior to deployment somehow you "opt in" for a SINGLE category of bonus actions that are agnostic of the suit you wear.

Categories examples could be:
1) Front Line Fighter - +5 WP for any player kills, uplinks, and Hacks; all other WPs are baseline
2) Logistics Support - +5 WP for hive, rep, nanite injectors; all other WPs baseline
3) Vehicle Specialist - +5 WPs for kills made from vehicles, scans from your vehicle, or spawns into your vehicle
4) Recon Specialist - +5 WPs for uplinks, hacks, scans, and remote explosives; all other WP baseline
5) AV Specialist - 15 WPs for vehicle kills, +5 for player kills inside the destroyed vehicles; all other WPs baseline

(not a complete list by any stretch...just examples)

...thoughts?