So per volley of a Wiyrkomi swarm, you're looking at 90-120 WP? The sky will rain with orbitals and tears.

Since you asked nicely, I will post on exactly what I think needs changing:

(note:I'm not covering the overall changes for vehicle hulls, as you guys probably know my opinion, and we really don't know how much they will change in the vehicle update in terms of max eHP)

AV vs. Vehicles: I don't think that soloing should be a viable option for taking them down. They should only be good for suppressing them,. If you're pretty good, has perfect position and timing, and with a bit of luck, yea, you deserve that kill, but otherwise, no. HOWEVER, If there's 2 or 3 of those AV'ers, generally speaking, that vehicle should be a lot easier to take out (unless it's a special type such as Marauder), which should tank damage like a boss), or it's gone, unless the pilot finds a distraction and get the **** out of there. But that's if the AV'ers have somewhat good of a position; not like on the same plain right out in front of it, or around a corner. Also, not really for Forge Guns, but for swarms, they need countermeasures, or the swarms need a changed tracking, as it's pretty hard to avoid a swarm (unless you're a LAV that's already around a corner, or a DS that's already far away, in which not all of those vehicles are fitted to be able to run like that).

Swarms: The rendering needs fixed so you can see them better when they are launched. Also, like I said, they need a better tracking. Make it more flat, but make it a little bit faster. Lastly, make the lock on longer by another .2-.5 seconds, and increase the box size 4, and it's max ammo 8. 3/6 is too low imo.

Forges: Same as Swarms, make the rendering better so you can see them at range. Also, make the glow a different color, as it blends in to the environment a lot, as well as make it a little bit bigger (not by much, just slightly). Next, either make it less accurate at range (kinda bad idea), or or reduce it's optimal range, and raise it's damage drop off to the absolute range. Damage and charge up time is fine. Oh wait, before I forget, reduce that damn splash damage already!

AV nades: massive reduction for damage (I'm talking 60-80%). But, they get a slight range buff, and they get a EWAR effect that effects tracking on the turrets, speed, or active modules for a short period of time(like 10-15 seconds). They shouldn't be a killing factor, just something to scare the pilots and thinking that they're getting trapped. Also a helper for EWAR fits.

General Vehicles: The Tech 2 vehicles needs to be adjusted (and brung back), and adjusted, just like they are, or similar to in this: Click

How many times did you reply to my thread, yet here you are, yet again, a non-pilot making another tank thread.

<-----level 5 swarms
<----- level 4 FG(alt)
<----- level 5 enforcer(shield)
<----- assault DS pilot
<----- logi DS pilot
<----- old school LAV driver
<----- level 3 plasma cannon
<----- level 3 nades

does that make me both a pilot and AVer?
btw yes i have over 19million SP.

AV is different, it take no skill, it's a lock on weapon, i destroyed 3 tanks in 1 game with MLT swarms while they had active modules on. so pathetic really

I might update it, as I thought it would take way too long to retype all of it. I might just put a summary for each, although in my summaries, I usually go full on and end up typing out the full time. So yea, later.

LOL

You're crazy

AV is easy. I'm using cheap stuff right now because I want to be cheap. Cheap tanks, cheap dropsuits. I could easily use my ADV heavy suits with PRO forge guns, but right now I'd rather use skinweave with ADV assault forge guns. I know how it is. It's pathetically easy.

30 is way too high.. try 10 . its closer to squad leader bonus.. then the regulat wp for kills.. but yeah.. i can get behind this post . some points are better than others tho.

It's sooooo much simpler to nerf the hell out of AV. What happened to tanks should only be destroyed by full squad of dedicated AV? Now a lone Assault FG is enough to destroy a tank in less than 20 seconds. Is it because back in Chromosome no one had dedicated AV?

We all know tanks got to this place because of CCP Blam!'s fault, which was a total failure. But since vehicle rebalance is such a hard work that can't be done in less than 1 month at least an AV nerf hotfix should keep tankers happy till vehicle patch. Then once you have the new tanks you can buff AV again if it's needed. And lol at 1.3? swarm buff. Clearly no idea how to balance the game.

-XOXO

I hate to bring lore into the equation, but ultimately, this is what will become of tanks (i think)

CALDARI = best glass cannons because they have fast enough shield recharge to get hit once, when OHKing something from 500m away, then drop back, charge up in 20 seconds, and shoot again. No other tank can use the railgun the same way a caldari tank can.

MINMITAR = Basically the Gunlogi in Chrome. Super fast, lightly defended, and with the ability to stack a good damage mod, while still being able to 'speed tank'; this enables it to run in, kill everything it can in 10 seconds, and run away. It is either the weakest tank, or the tankiest LAV; much like the winmitar assault suit.

GALLENTE = Fast armor tankers. Make the best tankers for shock tactics. Able to become nearly invincible for a minute and fight on the front, then run away with exceptional speed and rep back up in the rear.

AMARR = Slow omni-tanks. The highest HP of all tanks. Not fast enough to close distance, hit, and run away, but fighting at a medium to long distance, and providing direct fire support; while being able to fend off even gallente tanks, slug it out with caldari in long range engagements, and tank most of the winmitar's damage. However, the loss of speed and poor shield recharge, combined with e necessity to use armor plates, disables this tank from being a good glass cannon, or a powerful offensive tank for more than one engagement.