Since you asked nicely, I will post on exactly what I think needs changing:

(note:I'm not covering the overall changes for vehicle hulls, as you guys probably know my opinion, and we really don't know how much they will change in the vehicle update in terms of max eHP)

AV vs. Vehicles: I don't think that soloing should be a viable option for taking them down. They should only be good for suppressing them,. If you're pretty good, has perfect position and timing, and with a bit of luck, yea, you deserve that kill, but otherwise, no. HOWEVER, If there's 2 or 3 of those AV'ers, generally speaking, that vehicle should be a lot easier to take out (unless it's a special type such as Marauder), which should tank damage like a boss), or it's gone, unless the pilot finds a distraction and get the **** out of there. But that's if the AV'ers have somewhat good of a position; not like on the same plain right out in front of it, or around a corner. Also, not really for Forge Guns, but for swarms, they need countermeasures, or the swarms need a changed tracking, as it's pretty hard to avoid a swarm (unless you're a LAV that's already around a corner, or a DS that's already far away, in which not all of those vehicles are fitted to be able to run like that).

Swarms: The rendering needs fixed so you can see them better when they are launched. Also, like I said, they need a better tracking. Make it more flat, but make it a little bit faster. Lastly, make the lock on longer by another .2-.5 seconds, and increase the box size 4, and it's max ammo 8. 3/6 is too low imo.

Forges: Same as Swarms, make the rendering better so you can see them at range. Also, make the glow a different color, as it blends in to the environment a lot, as well as make it a little bit bigger (not by much, just slightly). Next, either make it less accurate at range (kinda bad idea), or or reduce it's optimal range, and raise it's damage drop off to the absolute range. Damage and charge up time is fine. Oh wait, before I forget, reduce that damn splash damage already!

AV nades: massive reduction for damage (I'm talking 60-80%). But, they get a slight range buff, and they get a EWAR effect that effects tracking on the turrets, speed, or active modules for a short period of time(like 10-15 seconds). They shouldn't be a killing factor, just something to scare the pilots and thinking that they're getting trapped. Also a helper for EWAR fits.

General Vehicles: The Tech 2 vehicles needs to be adjusted (and brung back), and adjusted, just like they are, or similar to in this: Click

Sheild tanks

Passive Health: Pitiful (500- 1.5K)
Equivalent Active Health: Collasal (20-30 K)
Main turret power: Low
Speed: Hypersonic
Ammo reserves: Moderate
** Rail: 40
** Blaster: 300
**Missile: 30 salvos

The sheild tank is all about hit and run, it can sponge enough damage via active modules to leave that pitiful base hp untouched. 2 Shots with a forge will be enough to fell a sheild tanker without his active modules. This makes sheild tanks perfect for a punching a hole in enemy defences.

The large active health means a sheild tanker doesn't need to be concerned about av while his modules are on. But when he is vunerable his lack of scanning means he is entirely dependent on infantry support. Passive modules help a little but only serve purpose to empower the active modules. Active modus allow a sheild tan

I might update it, as I thought it would take way too long to retype all of it. I might just put a summary for each, although in my summaries, I usually go full on and end up typing out the full time. So yea, later.

I read through this, wanting to troll you, really bad, but I actually agree with everything except the madrugar speed nerf. I'm more in favor of either a passive caldari damage buff, because a speed buff is out of character for caldari, and is the place for the minmitar.

All in all, not bad ideas, but buffing the base HP won't do anything good, because it's so low. Buffing the modules is what would help. either that or a massive (35% pg buff).

I want to see tanks become battering rams OR seige weapons, where they are nearly invulnerable for 60 seconds OR they can take out anything that moves in a couple shots for 30 seconds. Then they should go right back to being paper thin. This way, the smart tankers will be nigh unkillable, but a good 85% wont last 2 minutes- as it should be.

caldari suits are fastest.
less HEAVY armor means more speed and is balanced, currently armor is faster than shield.

Everyone is focusing on whether vehicles need more HP or less, or how much damage and range AV should have. These are all stopgaps.

What we need are completely new features. We need capacitor. We need electronic warfare. Without those vehicle balance is never going to work.

Yea, this. This is basically how the racial HAV's should work. Although, you were (hopefully) exaggerating on that range for the Caldari HAV's......

If I see EWAR coming after me, I'm gone.

1: Like I told the gentleman on the last page, according to what Wolfman has told us so far, caps won't really work for vehicles anymore, so I'd rather not. EWAR that would work like vampires or neuts would just lower active times or raise cooldowns, but full caps, no.

2: Countermeasures are needed for swarms, and to be able to shoot down swarms by any means are needed as well, but making a single weapon the only thing to shoot them down, but suck ass in all other areas is a very bad idea.

3: Swarms have gone from being DS oriented to becoming a insane HAV killer. They need a complete overhaul.

4: It's already about getting support from others. If I see AV, I'll call it out then run, while they do the dirty work (they=my squad). I do covering fire for them to move to another spot, etc. It's already about teamwork and support. Don't make it completely reliant on support to do anything.


EDIT: Before I forget, hopefully, SOONtm, we'll get the weapons lab to test our **** before we take it out on the field.