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Mike Ox Bigger
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:36:00 -
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Seriously the maps are bigger and murder cabs are gone, swarms shoot like assault rifles and now all I see is an occasional drop ship from time to time, it's frustrating to me and I'm not even specced into AV, I just have the Dren Swarms. I can't even imagine how you guys feel. All you have to shoot at now is a few red turrets and I just say **** it throw down three remotes with my logi, why waste time running swarms.
I feel for the tankers too, they get wiped out quick by any decent squad. Tanks should last longer or be much, much cheaper. **** it make the MLT tanks free. I wanna blow some **** up.
Ok kidding with free MLT tanks that could be bad :) but the variety of the game is gone since the last update. All I play with now is the AR as the only weapon I would use besides it is the ASR which is pretty much the same thing just more expensive. I'm skilled into the AR so the fact that it was way OP now didn't bother me at first but now the game has gotten extremely monotonous.
Before I could break out a scout shottie or my HMG or if I really wanted to be a prick my mass driver and have a lot of fun but the AR is too much of a beast to do that and be competitive.
It needs a lot more than just free MLT vehicles but atleast that would give people a reason to run something other than the AR. |
broonfondle majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:38:00 -
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You really want 1 guy spawning in a tank battalion for the rest of their team? |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:38:00 -
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NO. NONONONONONONONONONONONONONO Free Vehicles is one of the causes for everyone having swarms and nades. |
Mike Ox Bigger
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:39:00 -
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Just free LAVs, seriously AV is useless now. |
Mike Ox Bigger
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:42:00 -
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broonfondle majikthies wrote:You really want 1 guy spawning in a tank battalion for the rest of their team?
they already do this, just have to have the ISK. Free tanks pop like nothing without skills into the modules that go on them and you'd still have to pay for those modules.
EDIT - Just trying to think of more ways to get vehicles into battle. |
broonfondle majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
265
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:52:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:broonfondle majikthies wrote:You really want 1 guy spawning in a tank battalion for the rest of their team? they already do this, just have to have the ISK. Free tanks pop like nothing without skills into the modules that go on them and you'd still have to pay for those modules. EDIT - Just trying to think of more ways to get vehicles into battle.
Highlighted the point there. Where would the risk - reward system be? As to getting more vehicles in most of the pilots I know are saving isk for the future vehicle update. Till then I still run a MLT transport with random junk I want to get rid of whenever I'm bored |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:55:00 -
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So murder taxis are gone and you want free LAVs back? Hell no, I wanted free LAVs gone before they were a problem. You can max the exact same fitting as the old free LAVs for less than 30k ISK and no skills, so that's what you should have to do if you want one. I'm sorry, but everything in New Eden needs a value (except of course starter fits so you can at least spawn in if worst comes to worst, which even then I don't think we need as many as they give you). |
Mike Ox Bigger
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 20:16:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:So murder taxis are gone and you want free LAVs back? Hell no, I wanted free LAVs gone before they were a problem. You can max the exact same fitting as the old free LAVs for less than 30k ISK and no skills, so that's what you should have to do if you want one. I'm sorry, but everything in New Eden needs a value (except of course starter fits so you can at least spawn in if worst comes to worst, which even then I don't think we need as many as they give you).
Murder cabs are gone because you can't just bump someone with a car anymore you have to be full speed or crush them into a wall. You also can't push them and kill them anymore, tanks can but lavs cant. I used to push heavy blueberries with my car in pub matchs to get them into the center of the map quicker now people just slide off.
Making people pay for LAVs was to me just a quick fix for the murder cab problem, now that the updates out I don't see how it could hurt having more vehicles running around to blow up. Since the update I think I've been run over only once and I've completely taken off all AV nades from my suits.
I also have the elite pack w/ blue print vehicle and I brought blue print modules so money has nothing to do with my post, it's more about getting vehicles back on the battlefield and making DUST less like AR 514. |
Mike Ox Bigger
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 20:23:00 -
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broonfondle majikthies wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:broonfondle majikthies wrote:You really want 1 guy spawning in a tank battalion for the rest of their team? they already do this, just have to have the ISK. Free tanks pop like nothing without skills into the modules that go on them and you'd still have to pay for those modules. EDIT - Just trying to think of more ways to get vehicles into battle. Highlighted the point there. Where would the risk - reward system be? As to getting more vehicles in most of the pilots I know are saving isk for the future vehicle update. Till then I still run a MLT transport with random junk I want to get rid of whenever I'm bored
The risk is more tanks some having pretty dope MLT tanks with proto modules. I can make a pretty nasty MLT tank but it'd still cost me quite a bit. My arguments more for the cars but I don't see too big a problem with free MLT tanks as long as there's still a spawn limit like with lavs.
The reward is giving people a reason to run swarms, forges, and av nades. I only pull out my swarms when I see a tank, which is rarely now. Before I could run a whole game with swarms out as there were plenty of vehicles spawning in to shoot at but now once you're done blowing up turrets there's no point in having them out. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2187
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Posted - 2013.09.23 20:54:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:So murder taxis are gone and you want free LAVs back? Hell no, I wanted free LAVs gone before they were a problem. You can max the exact same fitting as the old free LAVs for less than 30k ISK and no skills, so that's what you should have to do if you want one. I'm sorry, but everything in New Eden needs a value (except of course starter fits so you can at least spawn in if worst comes to worst, which even then I don't think we need as many as they give you). Murder cabs are gone because you can't just bump someone with a car anymore you have to be full speed or crush them into a wall. You also can't push them and kill them anymore, tanks can but lavs cant. I used to push heavy blueberries with my car in pub matchs to get them into the center of the map quicker now people just slide off. Making people pay for MLT LAVs was to me just a quick fix for the murder cab problem, now that the updates out I don't see how it could hurt having more vehicles running around to blow up. Since the update I think I've been run over only once and I've completely taken off all AV nades from my suits. I also have the elite pack w/ blue print vehicle and I brought blue print modules so money has nothing to do with my post, it's more about getting vehicles back on the battlefield and making DUST less like AR 514. I'm not saying free LAVs were the cause for murder taxis, I should of been more clear by that. I'm saying that just because murder taxis are gone you find that a good excuse to reinstate free LAVs? Because in my opinion whether murder taxis are a problem or not LAVs should of never been free.
What is exactly so hard about paying 30k ISK for a simple LAV? That is less than your average advanced fit. If you lose it it's not even that bad as dying, plus you can always recall if you are very ISK conscious. But why oh why do you feel entitled to free rides? |
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1414
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:00:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:But why oh why do you feel entitled to free rides?
Because LAVs allow heavies to not be the point defense they were designed to be by CCP and they don't have time to recall that LAV because want to jump out and shoot people in the face. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:02:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Just free LAVs, seriously AV is useless now.
Free LAVs are what got us into this mess in the first place. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2187
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:02:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:But why oh why do you feel entitled to free rides? Because LAVs allow heavies to not be the point defense they were designed to be by CCP and they don't have time to recall that LAV because want to jump out and shoot people in the face. Well then you have three options as far as I see it,
1. Kill the people before the LAV is destroyed, then get back in and continue roaming. 2. Get a buddy to cab you around so you never have to leave the LAV unmanned. 3. Upgrade your LAV so it can withstand a little more.
If this is the tactic you want to use then you should have to pay for that tactic, just like everyone else has to pay for whatever tactics they want to use. |
Mike Ox Bigger
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:05:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:
What is exactly so hard about paying 30k ISK for a simple LAV?
I don't know ask all the players who stopped calling in vehicles, everyone is cheap I suppose.
Aero Yassavi wrote: But why oh why do you feel entitled to free rides?
Dude you quoted my whole post but apparently didn't read it. I have pretty much all the BPOs for suits and vehicles, money has nothing to do with my post. It's more about getting more vehicles on the maps. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1414
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:07:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:But why oh why do you feel entitled to free rides? Because LAVs allow heavies to not be the point defense they were designed to be by CCP and they don't have time to recall that LAV because want to jump out and shoot people in the face. Well then you have three options as far as I see it, 1. Kill the people before the LAV is destroyed, then get back in and continue roaming. 2. Get a buddy to cab you around so you never have to leave the LAV unmanned. 3. Upgrade your LAV so it can withstand a little more. If this is the tactic you want to use then you should have to pay for that tactic, just like everyone else has to pay for whatever tactics they want to use.
I'm the sneaky type and park mine on the other side of the hill and recall. I think the heavy's problem is they jump out, kill the reds and then the random blueberry shows up and says, "Hey, cool ride, I think I'll take it." I agree that they should have a LogiBro ferry them around in a yellow LogiCab.
This is now an official Add Locks To Vehicles thread!
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Mike Ox Bigger
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:07:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Just free LAVs, seriously AV is useless now. Free LAVs are what got us into this mess in the first place.
No murder cabs were the problem, which they fixed. Free MLT vehicles just put more of them on the map. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1414
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:09:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:
What is exactly so hard about paying 30k ISK for a simple LAV?
I don't know ask all the players who stopped calling in vehicles, everyone is cheap I suppose. Aero Yassavi wrote: But why oh why do you feel entitled to free rides? Dude you quoted my whole post but apparently didn't read it. I have pretty much all the BPOs for suits and vehicles, money has nothing to do with my post. It's more about getting more vehicles on the maps.
Wow, I totally didn't get the point of all that.
Also, I see plenty of vehicles on the field. Having free vehicles was a complete nightmare even before all the murder taxi road killing. With the cap on vehicles the real drivers and pilots would rarely get to call in their high dollar rides because all the blueberries were spamming the free ones too. |
Mike Ox Bigger
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:12:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:With the cap on vehicles the real drivers and pilots would rarely get to call in their high dollar rides because all the blueberries were spamming the free ones too.
This is true. I dunno maybe I'm crazy but I just don't see very many vehicles roaming around. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
380
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:17:00 -
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NO! Milita vehicles are cheap |
pyramidhead 420
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:35:00 -
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MTL tanks need to cost less, 50k-ish fot the hull. the current 138k is to much, when maddy's only cost 200 |
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